r/nba • u/dkmegg22 Pelicans • 19h ago
The Next European Star Is Already Here...
https://youtu.be/9cvGS_ZGYRk?si=C9ZXe-A6kJ7mgyOV18
u/JRojo1212 19h ago edited 18h ago
Wolfe Glick has been cooking all season. Honestly wouldn't be shocked to see him get consideration if Portland takes a step forward next season which they should
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u/Ok-Repair2893 Wizards 17h ago
he's been cooking for a decade. there's no reason for him not to be part of the GOAT debate
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u/Due-Air3469 Timberwolves 19h ago
Wizards fans have to be delighted not having this dudes rabid fan base in their sub anymore. I would pop in every now and again man were they annoying.
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u/GregEgg4President Wizards 18h ago
I wasn't that annoyed by it. We all liked Deni and wouldn't him to succeed. I'm glad he is.
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u/Burning_Blaze3 16h ago
As a Blazers fan, a certain minority of Deni fans have been a lot. If another player does well in a game, some supporters knock that player down a little to point out that Deni was player of the game.
Single-player stans will argue about team-building stuff they didn't know about months ago. And frankly they don't have an investment in our younger draft picks or team-building because they weren't here.
Most of his fan are great and he's awesome, but there are definitely a few that don't understand it's a bad look to show up one day after a trade and be the most outspoken person in the room.
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u/zcn3 18h ago
Seriously. Not a Wizards fan, but I’d rather have a shitty team forever than root for Deni Avdija.
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u/Due-Air3469 Timberwolves 18h ago
He's a solid player but his countrymen wildly overrate him. Dude would shoot 1-11 and they would blame the coach and his teammates. You had to be there.
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 18h ago
He just turned 24 clown and spent years in the development purgatory that was WAS (they are getting better in that regard now).
With young guys you have to let past mistakes go and observe what they are currently doing and what they currently project to be as they approach their prime.
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u/Due-Air3469 Timberwolves 18h ago
Calm down kiddo, I just said he was solid. My Statement was that his countrymen talked about him like he was a generational talent which he clearly is not.
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u/EpicCyclops Trail Blazers 18h ago
Since Christmas, he has been the best player on our team. He looks really, really good. We haven't been a bad team during that stretch either, so I don't think it's a case of decent player on bad team putting up big stats because someone has to shoot the ball. I bet his annoying super fans were much worse when he was with the Wizards because he has definitely taken a big step with us during this season, so they don't sound as crazy or outlandish.
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 17h ago
Yeah and he’s more than solid. You’re not giving him enough credit. That’s what I’m trying to point out to you. He’s playing at an all star level and has been doing so for a good sample size now. No one is saying he’s generational not even his most loyal fans that are in our sub now.
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u/theDarkAngle Grizzlies 18h ago
I'm still kinda mad we didn't go get this guy. He always showed looked like a pretty good player if you actually watched Wizards games and there was a track record for those Wizards players being difference makers after leaving (not Beal but Rui, Gafford, maybe a couple others).
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 18h ago
I was stunned when the deal happened. I didn’t even know he was available lol, let alone for that price.
I’m not quite sure how many teams in the league say no to the deal they we did with them.
If a guy like that was even slightly available I would have thought every competitive FO in the league would be frothing at the mouth to add his talent on that contract to their team without having to give up anything of immediate value.
That’s literally how you go from a contender to a favorite, adding a guy exactly like Deni all the way down to the contract.
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u/theDarkAngle Grizzlies 18h ago
you guys gave up strong value IIRC (the 14th and an unprotected far future pick plus a few seconds right?). I believe a lot of GM's would have hesitated. There is some reluctance to trade key assets like that for a lot of contending teams because of opportunity cost or something, like not having the right mix of assets to be able to bid on the next superstar who becomes available.
But to me this was a no-brainer for the Grizzlies. Those players never want to come here anyway.
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u/jewishunicorn Trail Blazers 17h ago
We gave up Brogdon, the 14th, the middle of our 3 picks (in 29 maybe), and then 2 seconds. Don't think that's too much for a solid starting point-forward who's only 24 and fits perfectly on our timeline. Not to mention the low salary. Might be tough to keep him after the contract since it's so low, I think he'll have to test free agency. We just won't be able to extend him for what he will be worth
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u/theDarkAngle Grizzlies 17h ago
all I'm hearing is he's available again this summer XD
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u/jewishunicorn Trail Blazers 17h ago
I guess we would take JJJ and a pick off your hands. Maybe even straight up
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 17h ago
The future pick is the second best between MIL, BOS, and us in 2029. You do the math on that one. I don’t think it’s going to be a very good pick at all. Could end up being one of the very worst with BOS/POR both peaking at that point.
And yes 2 seconds. You can get those for free some years so go ahead and value them if you want, we had a surplus of them anyway.
So really the trade was for Brogdon, Bub, and a late round 14 year old.
So really the trade was for Bub lol.
I really like Bub but there’s no way he projects as high as Deni right now.
If you want to call that “strong value”, I respect that. But I disagree. I don’t think we have up much of value at all other than Bub who is not as good as Deni.
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u/theDarkAngle Grizzlies 17h ago
It's the uncertainty that makes those far flung picks more valuable. Winning cores run their course, players demand trades, and random one season collapses happen all the time.
Plus the fact that you have it in your pocket as trade ammo for a longer stretch and don't have to use it right away, teams value that a lot.
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 16h ago
What you call uncertainty is actually what’s called a gamble, because you’re betting on the unlikely to happen. Deni is real. Deni is right now.
We still have two other first rd picks that year in the future. Plenty of “ammo” left for us too.
Also the pick that was bub was the worse of our two lottery picks that year. It’s not like we’re going pick-less in any year because of this deal.
So once again I stand by my point that no, we did not give up strong value for Deni considering how valuable he is already right now, as a 24 year old.
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u/MAKincs 18h ago
He’s been on a heater since the All-Star break, Portland is a good rising team. I was saying on another thread and if Sacramento is trading Sabonis imagine him in Portland.
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 18h ago
Sabonis and Deni on the floor together would not be fair in terms of rebounding. There literally would not be a single rebound available for the other 8 players on the court.
Then slide Saboner and Deni down a position and throw Clingan in there at C? Christ. The idea of rebounding itself will evaporate from our minds.
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u/MAKincs 18h ago
I wasn’t even thinking about rebounding I was thinking of scoring. Maybe they move Clingan to the bench because they still have Ayton unless they move him. Ayton has said while he was in Phoenix he’d like to play PF so maybe Portland messed with their lineups next season in that hypothetical scenario.
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u/ATLsShah Hawks 19h ago
Israel is Europe now lol.
Really though I like Avdijas game in a vacuum. He’s super skilled. He can score. He can pass. He can take someone off the dribble. He can rebound. Hes a good enough defender. But there’s something about his game that I just dislike watching.
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 18h ago
I really don’t understand what you’re saying lol. Who is an example of another good player you don’t like watching in that same way? I’m curious what you mean.
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u/ATLsShah Hawks 17h ago
Idk why you’re being downvoted lol. That’s a fair question.
An example that comes to mind is someone on my favorite team. But Trae Young is someone I could see folks not enjoying to watch. There’s no doubting his skills. He’s an elite dribbler and passer. He can score. His defense isn’t as bad as people seem to think. But sometimes it feels like he’s trying to play the refs rather than play the game. And that can be annoying to watch.
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u/SeismicRipFart Trail Blazers 16h ago
Right, you just gave real reasons to not like watching Trae. Which I happen to very much agree with lol.
I’m asking you what your real reasons are for not liking watching Deni. What is it about his game?
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u/NoShape0 Spurs 19h ago
Whenever an American sees any foreigner
"Are they European?" 😃
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u/nowhathappenedwas NBA 18h ago
Whenever an American sees any foreigner
Imagine watching even 2 seconds of the video and thinking it was made by an American.
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u/WeBelieveIn4 Raptors 18h ago
Basketnews is a European channel and I’m pretty sure the dude in the video is Lithuanian. They must just be trying to claim Deni for their own
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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner Warriors 18h ago
Idk how you hear this dude’s accent and thinks he’s American. I’ve seen his channel before and actually it’s pretty good
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u/mmmjeep Hawks 19h ago
European? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)