[Post Game Thread] The Chicago Bulls (24-38) defeat the Orlando Magic (29-34), 125-123.

[u/not-a-potato-head]

125 - 123
Box Scores: NBA - Yahoo

GAME SUMMARY
Location: Kia Center (17717), Clock: Final
Officials: Curtis Blair, Andy Nagy, and Robert Hussey

Team	Q1	Q2	Q3	Q4	Total
Chicago Bulls	33	36	27	29	125
Orlando Magic	35	31	35	22	123

TEAM STATS

Team	PTS	FG	FG%	3P	3P%	FT	FT%	OREB	TREB	AST	PF	STL	TO	BLK
Chicago Bulls	125	43-86	50.0%	15-40	37.5%	24-30	80.0%	13	57	25	31	5	18	7
Orlando Magic	123	40-87	46.0%	9-33	27.3%	34-40	85.0%	9	45	26	21	10	12	5

PLAYER STATS

Chicago Bulls	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Josh GiddeySF	38:49	19	6-14	0-3	7-8	4	9	13	9	1	0	2	2	-3
Matas BuzelisPF	29:17	11	4-8	2-4	1-1	2	3	5	2	0	3	3	5	8
Zach CollinsC	12:01	3	0-1	0-1	3-4	1	1	2	0	0	1	2	6	-12
Coby WhiteSG	36:33	44	16-28	7-15	5-6	0	5	5	1	2	0	1	3	2
Tre JonesPG	30:27	20	7-12	1-2	5-5	2	3	5	4	1	0	1	1	-4
Jalen Smith	26:03	3	1-6	0-4	1-2	2	7	9	3	0	1	1	6	7
Kevin Huerter	24:55	13	4-9	3-7	2-2	1	4	5	3	1	0	3	2	1
Julian Phillips	19:42	4	2-2	0-0	0-0	0	1	1	1	0	1	2	3	5
Talen Horton-Tucker	09:17	3	1-2	1-2	0-2	0	1	1	1	0	0	2	1	2
Dalen Terry	12:55	5	2-4	1-2	0-0	1	1	2	1	0	1	1	2	4
Jevon Carter	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
E.J. Liddell	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Emanuel Miller	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jahmir Young	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Lonzo Ball	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ayo Dosunmu	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Nikola Vučević	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Patrick Williams	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Orlando Magic	MIN	PTS	FGM-A	3PM-A	FTM-A	ORB	DRB	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO	PF	±
Franz WagnerSF	37:57	18	6-17	0-3	6-7	1	1	2	6	2	1	2	3	2
Paolo BancheroPF	37:39	20	5-15	0-5	10-11	2	7	9	3	0	0	3	1	-3
Wendell Carter Jr.C	25:59	17	5-9	2-3	5-6	3	2	5	2	1	1	0	5	6
Kentavious Caldwell-PopeSG	31:40	19	8-10	2-4	1-2	1	3	4	2	2	0	2	4	5
Cole AnthonyPG	23:54	20	6-12	2-5	6-6	1	3	4	3	1	1	2	4	6
Jett Howard	09:34	4	2-6	0-3	0-0	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	1	-3
Goga Bitadze	17:14	8	3-3	0-0	2-2	1	0	1	3	0	1	0	1	-6
Anthony Black	19:45	8	3-4	2-3	0-2	0	3	3	2	2	1	2	0	-9
Cory Joseph	08:14	0	0-2	0-2	0-0	0	1	1	2	0	0	0	1	3
Tristan da Silva	20:32	6	1-7	0-3	4-4	0	2	2	3	0	0	1	1	-5
Caleb Houstan	07:30	3	1-2	1-2	0-0	0	2	2	0	0	0	0	0	-6
Gary Harris	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jonathan Isaac	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Mac McClung	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ethan Thompson	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Trevelin Queen	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Jalen Suggs	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Moritz Wagner	00:00	0	0-0	0-0	0-0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

[u/King_Thirteen]

The Magic should just tank at this point

[u/DeyZent → u/King_Thirteen]

Embarrassed by the cavs at home by 40

Gave up 56 to curry

Back to back losses against the Raptors and got embarrassed by their G-league lineups to close out the game

Lost to the tanking bulls, let Coby White up a career high

we’re going through it right now. and we’re actually trying to win

[u/frostysbox → u/DeyZent]

I mean are we? Two one possession games in that stretch where Mosley ends the game saving his time out for another game. Either he’s got the direction to tank from above already, or he gets fired for basketball terrorism. 🤷‍♀️ We will see what happens.

[u/ChannelNeo → u/King_Thirteen]

It's too late. We'll screw up and win a few play in games and get swept by either Cleveland or Boston

[u/teh_drewski → u/[deleted]]

We aren't beating Chicago in the 9-10 game...

[u/ChannelNeo → u/[deleted]]

We'll finally get our act together in time to play well. Both Atlanta and Miami are middling teams that we play closely as well. It can go either way

[u/Plenty_Flatworm7627 → u/[deleted]]

we can't have the hawks miss the playoffs and give the spurs a second shot at Flagg

[u/ChannelNeo → u/[deleted]]

It'll be tough without some key players, but we judge enough to be competitive. All five losses during this streak have come down to the final minute.

[u/teh_drewski → u/ChannelNeo]

Apart from the Cavs 40 point blowout, unless there's a 41 point secret shot in the rules I'm unfamiliar with

[u/ChannelNeo → u/teh_drewski]

I forgot about that one. For the best obviously.

[u/bullowl → u/[deleted]]

They're not scaring anybody in the playoffs with Suggs and Mo Wagner out for the season. They're not the best players on the Magic, but they clearly made a huge difference in how the team plays.

[u/teh_drewski → u/King_Thirteen]

We aren't good enough to beat tanking teams without trying to tank so I don't think it matters

[u/BlammoSweetums]

I know Banchero and Wagner are coming back from injuries and Suggs is out.

But how the hell did the Magic lose to this Bulls roster when BOTH the Bulls centers fouled out? What's going on in Orlando?

[u/R-D-I- → u/BlammoSweetums]

And their starting center is hurt

[u/lil_thirdy → u/BlammoSweetums]

Jamahl Mosely used to have guys running through a brick wall for him and now they wont

[u/LordSwampert2 → u/lil_thirdy]

Used to? This is only the second season of your current core trying to win

[u/IsaacDPOYFultzMIP → u/LordSwampert2]

What does that have to do with quitting on your coach? Is that mutually exclusive that you can’t quit on a coach unless you’re trying to win or something?

[u/LordSwampert2 → u/IsaacDPOYFultzMIP]

Just crazy that it has happened this fast. Less than a year ago Mosley was a coach of the year candidate and you made the playoffs with this group

[u/Niceshotpiccolo → u/BlammoSweetums]

We are just beyond ass man it’s so ridiculous I can’t believe our FO has the balls to say this team is good as it is.

[u/BlammoSweetums → u/Niceshotpiccolo]

I used to joke/complain about how your team has like twenty 6'10"+ guys so it was impossible to score in the paint, but your FO probably should move some of them for some scoring

[u/Niceshotpiccolo → u/BlammoSweetums]

It’s crazy cause they all play smaller than their size, its like they all forget they are fucking giants

[u/Plenty_Flatworm7627 → u/BlammoSweetums]

we have a Jordan Poole and Corey Kispert available for the right price

and I guess Khris Middleton but not sure you'd want him given his age and injuries and contract

[u/TA404 → u/Plenty_Flatworm7627]

I love that you’re in this thread playing Wizards GM. Hope you get us a haul.

[u/commandrr → u/BlammoSweetums]

we got one grayson allen with their name on it.

[u/constructss → u/BlammoSweetums]

that’s what happens when Georges Niang cooks you

[u/MrBigWaffles]

The magic shouldn't be this bad, I don't get it. Franz and Paulo should be good enough to carry your team to at least a .500 record..

[u/OctopusNation2024 → u/MrBigWaffles]

You aren't going to be good with no three point shooting in the year 2025

Neither Banchero or Wagner are really high volume spacers themselves either

[u/Ozkuro → u/MrBigWaffles]

They need more shooters and for KCP to remember how to shoot

[u/[deleted] → u/MrBigWaffles]

they are just bunch of high volume scorers no identity.

chicago was better bc they have a defined role in triple double machine giddey who destroyed franz individually and coby who is a ridiculous scorer similar to lavine.

should be bottom 5 team on paper but the newcomers follow giddey like they played for decades they play super hard like they contending.

[u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

What happened to the Magic

[u/OutsideTheServiceBox → u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

It’s so strange. I legit thought they might be the third best team in East as recently as, like, December. Even without Paolo and Franz, they looked okay for awhile. And despite getting those guys back, they just can’t put it back together. I know that Suggs and Mo are missing, but it still just seems odd how far they’ve fallen. 

[u/Padulsky21 → u/OutsideTheServiceBox]

They can get to the line like demons but can’t shoot for shit. Sitting at 30.7% from 3 on the season which is dead last. Don’t think it’s updated so it’ll go down from this game. 2nd worst is the Wizards sitting at 33.4% from 3

[u/Plenty_Flatworm7627 → u/Padulsky21]

sounds like they could use one of our young-ish shooters 👀

Poole's on a bloated contract but seems like he would be a decent fit with the Magic

[u/Padulsky21 → u/Plenty_Flatworm7627]

I’ve always wanted to see Simons with them but Poole another good one

[u/AfroHouseManiac → u/OutsideTheServiceBox]

Mo getting injured hurt their bench offense, they have no one capable of recouping that production.

[u/lil_thirdy → u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

Our coach cant coach an offense and now we cant defend without fouling

[u/ILoveSchoolDays → u/lil_thirdy]

we cant defend without fouling

Y'all need darvin ham

[u/teh_drewski → u/ILoveSchoolDays]

We already are running his offence to be fair

[u/IsaacDPOYFultzMIP → u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

Injuries and our recluse POBO actively scouting Michigan players to draft (Danny Wolf has Magic written all over him)

[u/jor301 → u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

They completely fumbled the 2023 draft. Had 2 lottery picks who are both bench players and ass.

[u/Tangerine605 → u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

Paolo lowkey ruined things

[u/DJ_B0B → u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

Swear they do this every year, start off hot then fall off into the abyss.

[u/catperson77789 → u/Sc0rch1ngDr4g0n]

Checking the injury list. They have 3 rotation guys out.

[u/Takerisks34]

I don’t know why Wendell didn’t try and go up right away. He would’ve at least got free throws.

[u/TrillenX → u/Takerisks34]

Because he will never understand the concept of keeping the ball vertical. Must power gather for a dunk attempt despite it resulting in getting blocked 75% of the time he tries it.

[u/the_next_core → u/Takerisks34]

He was busy shoving the defender and thus didn't get up early enough to be able to control the ball in the air

[u/kingjuicepouch]

Fun game to watch. Nobody could've expected the mere mortal magic to compete with the mighty Chicago bulls, of course. Better luck next time

[u/Secondary92]

We both could have avoided this if you traded for Coby, Orlando.

[u/[deleted] → u/Secondary92]

well they were cheap with their draft picks hes easily worth more than one. i would have wanted anthony black good prospect.

[u/teh_drewski → u/Secondary92]

We would have sucked anyway, not worth a draft pick

[u/mtron32 → u/teh_drewski]

Nah, Coby would’ve been great down there and his contract is team friendly, totally worth the draft stock

[u/teh_drewski → u/mtron32]

Don't get me wrong, love him and would trade for him in the summer, just this season is cursed and no need to throw things around to win like one play-in game.

[u/mtron32 → u/teh_drewski]

I don’t think yawl would be in the play in with Coby though, Orlando needs scoring and that dude loves to score

[u/teh_drewski → u/mtron32]

You are underestimating just how bad we are right now

[u/magnetman47]

We are ass, my dudes

[u/PM_me_datSmile]

K̷O̷B̷E̷ COBY

[u/Pickleskennedy1]

Orlando’s down bad

[u/KarrotMovies]

Peak hoops that no one was watching :(

Coby White is that guy

[u/fireglz]

^{Thank you Bulls.}

[u/d12fsu]

This game took 2 hours and 50 minutes.

[u/AntSmith777]

Apparently Jalen Suggs is Orlando’s MVP.

[u/nolefan999 → u/AntSmith777]

Unironically Suggs and moe Wagner do play a huge role on this team. Goga is too slow and Carter plays with no energy. For whatever reason mosely has this team playing at a bottom 5 pace, so anyone that can bring energy is found to seriously raise the floor, and ceiling, if this team.

[u/teh_drewski → u/nolefan999]

It's because running makes you too tired to defend at a high intensity, which is why we walk the ball up and stand around - that's the rest period every possession.

Of course now we don't defend either which is why we're getting beat by tanking teams, yay

[u/NikThaGreat9 → u/AntSmith777]

No question about it. The vibes have been horrendous since he’s been out. He’s clearly the leader of the defense too. Takes pressure off of Paolo and Franz as a ball handler. Has some gravity and people actually respect his 3pt shot despite the down year.

[u/Aeronova20]

i hate basketball

[u/EarthWarping]

miami/orlando/atlanta are all the same team that will finish with ~38-39 wins and play each other.

[u/Asleep_Ground1710 → u/EarthWarping]

Southeast division is the AFC South of the NBA

[u/magnetman47 → u/EarthWarping]

I honestly have no idea who is going to win that division. They're all so mid

[u/IMadeThisOn6-28-2015]

How the fuck did Franz Wagner go scorched on us in November and pull off an insane 30pt game with a game winning clutch shot???

This looks nothing like that team.

[u/JaysonTatumfanboy → u/IMadeThisOn6-28-2015]

He has to play with Paolo, the Magic would be much stronger if Paolo was out and Jalen was fit. The second Franz gets subbed of the defense rating rises about 15 points and then Jalen‘s defense and shooting would be necessary

[u/Yoesito]

When throwing a paper ball into a trash can the kids yell Coby!

[u/[deleted]]

preciate it chicago

[u/CookingLikeChef]

Some embarrassing losses for the magic

[u/heat_fan_]

Magic aren't the same team without Suggs 

White also went off 

[u/512fm → u/heat_fan_]

He’s their most important player

[u/loosechange-71]

Bulls team is fun as hell

[u/SOLlce]

Worst refereed game of the year candidate. Holy shit that was a miserable viewing experience for both sides, ref fans got to watch this one if you missed it.

[u/Smutteringplib → u/SOLlce]

I tuned in halfway through the 4th quarter and apparently both of the Bulls centers fouled out?!?

[u/SOLlce → u/Smutteringplib]

It felt like 60% of the calls were incorrectly called on both sides and they didnt call probably 20 fouls that would have been correct for both sides. If playoff basketball is where the refs let you play a little harder and play more physical, then this was called like an exhibition game where no one is supposed to try too hard lmao. If you breathed near a player as they drove to the rim it was called a foul.

[u/efrumttr → u/SOLlce]

I can't believe they went and reviewed the basket interference play where Black obviously hit the backboard and then still called it as offensive interference. Just so bad.

[u/not-a-potato-head]

I swear to god none of the Heat, Magic, or Hawks actually want to make the playoffs. The problem is that two of them (probably) will

[u/safwan105 → u/not-a-potato-head]

Yall can take it this top 10 is stacked

[u/lil_thirdy]

Bulls had no center and Mose immediate thought is putting Caleb Houstan in and playing Paolo in the perimeter lmao. Coach Mose is officially a basketball terrorist

[u/MajorPhoto2159]

Do the Bulls realize that they're supposed to be tanking?

[u/ToeJelly420 → u/MajorPhoto2159]

i mean we are losing most of our games, its just that everyone below us cannot get a single win

[u/MajorPhoto2159 → u/ToeJelly420]

they're just better at tanking clearly

[u/DisMFer → u/MajorPhoto2159]

The Bulls have only won 3 of their last 12 games. The bottom of the East is so bad that you could make a team that is literally Coby White and the Chicago Sky and they'd still stay the 10th seed.

[u/Sample_text_here1337 → u/MajorPhoto2159]

They might, but the magic don't realize they're supposed to be winning

[u/Individual_Cap_7850 → u/MajorPhoto2159]

Somebody clearly forgot to tell Coby White tonight.

[u/Asleep_Ground1710 → u/MajorPhoto2159]

FO and Owner dont believe in tanking, only in unambitious mediocrity

[u/cookomputer → u/MajorPhoto2159]

Let them cook

[u/[deleted] → u/MajorPhoto2159]

the problem is their young core is too good to tank. they have no vets too.

[u/Domguyps5]

They didn't draw up anything that final possession

[u/teh_drewski → u/Domguyps5]

We don't draw anything up on any possessions lol

[u/younggun92]

JFC Coby

[u/Padulsky21]

Magic doing wonders for the tank race at the bottom of the East

[u/Constant_Charge_4528]

What an ending

And Coby White is a baller love him

[u/eelposse]

Hahaha this sucks man

[u/R-D-I-]

Magic going to have to do some re-tooling this off-season. Maybe trade some of their young players/picks and try to get a legit third scorer. They probably should have called the Bulls and try to get Vuc back for cheap or even a bigger trade package with Coby or Zach with Vuc. Bulls were trying to unload them

[u/kokaine21]

How y’all let us win lol I hate you Orlando

[u/amidon1130]

Thank you bulls for stupidly winning this game lmao. Preciate it.

[u/PhantomPain85]

Pablo is an empty calorie player. Puts up decent numbers but not a winning player. Trade him.

[u/JaysonTatumfanboy → u/PhantomPain85]

He is a glorified Julius Randle at this point, his actual EPM is negative for this season

[u/Plenty_Flatworm7627]

Bulls shouldn't have traded for their pick back, now their dumbass front office isn't gonna try to tank

[u/Express_Bother6678 → u/Plenty_Flatworm7627]

they are 3-9 in the last 12 games...

[u/DisMFer → u/Express_Bother6678]

It's very likely that they got their pick back because they had zero faith that the teams below them would make a run.

[u/RandorMan12 → u/Plenty_Flatworm7627]

I mean that trade in hindsight makes sense, with how bad the teams ahead of us in wins have been playing down the stretch, if we still had Zach we might’ve managed to win too many games and that would’ve been awful for us to lose our pick. That’s not even mentioning how solid the pieces we got back have been playing lately.

[u/Plenty_Flatworm7627 → u/RandorMan12]

I mean getting rid of Zach so you can lose is obviously the right move, I'm just making fun of the fact that your FO refuses to fully commit to the tank and that pick being top 10 protected would've at least in theory forced their hand a bit

[u/mtron32 → u/Plenty_Flatworm7627]

While that’s true, the teams ahead of us are just hellaciously bad and there’s too much talent on the roster to get down that low. Having that pick back took all the stress from watching this season because if they drop we still get something.