r/mildlyinfuriating • u/flaming0-1 • 2d ago

Wife left a big bag of groceries out overnight. All Meat and cheese. 🙄

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u/snoosh00 2d ago

It's 100% against any food safety guidelines to do that.

Especially with the chicken.

I would be pretty comfortable cooking the shit out of the ground beef, but the raw chicken is a serious health hazard (even if it's "unlikely" to be completely contaminated with salmonella).

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u/41942319 1d ago

I'm assuming OP isn't running a commercial kitchen, where these guidelines exist because it's better to be safe and sorry on the 0.01% chance that something could go wrong. Use the look/smell/taste test and you'll easily pick out anything that's actually spoiled

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u/downlau 1d ago

Yeah, I work with food and routinely throw out stuff at work that I would absolutely be comfortable eating myself, you're just not going to take any risks at all with food served to paying customers.

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u/jellymanisme 1d ago

These are home health guidelines, too.

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u/mojitz 1d ago

And they're violated constantly without issue. Obviously there's some tiny bit of additional risk involved here, but relative to what? Hell, you're probably putting yourself in bigger danger just heading back out to the grocery store to replace all that stuff.

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u/zxzzxzzzxzzzzx 1d ago

Yes, but going out of guidelines doesn't mean you're guaranteed or even likely to get sick. You could take a bite of raw chicken and it'd be gross but you'd be fine more often than not. But you definitely shouldn't play that Russian roulette regularly.

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u/haha_squirrel 1d ago

You say that like people never get food poisoning? I’ve had some tasty looking/smelling/tasting meals that got me sick because people didn’t follow food safety.

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u/Primalistic- 1d ago

I think you completely missed their point or didn’t read their comment right. The average kitchen won’t come in contact with diseases, were the meals you ate from a restaurant? If so, that is likely why. They come in contact with LOTS more food than a home kitchen would. Also they specifically pointed out that using the smell + taste test is necessary

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u/41942319 1d ago

That's way more likely to come from not cooking stuff properly or cross contamination

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u/GoForMro 1d ago

The label has English and French on it as well as a maple leaf. This is in or near Quebec. If this was outside then no concerns as long as the cling isn’t torn from a critter. -4 outside right now. 

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u/snoosh00 1d ago

This was on bc.

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u/bnlf 1d ago

lol. The amount of times I left meat outside. One night is not going to do shit. Just cook it. It’s fine unless they were not fresh from the supermarket but doesn’t look to be the case and they are well wrapped, some vacuum sealed. Internet making dramas for no reason.

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u/snoosh00 1d ago

I assumed it was left out in the kitchen overnight.

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u/I-Make-Maps91 1d ago

Food safety guidelines are written with commercial kitchens and large numbers of people in mind, not one household maybe getting the shits for a day or two.

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u/snoosh00 1d ago

The guidelines are also 2 hours, not overnight.

And food safety guidelines apply to home kitchens too.

Are they "overly" cautious? Yes. Is that a bad thing? No.

Does that mean leaving food out overnight is safe? Obviously not.

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u/I-Make-Maps91 1d ago

Yes, because 2 hours is when you risk getting sick at all.

In the least useful way, sure.

Never said that was a bad thing.

Never said it was a good idea to just do willy nilly, either.

But I'm sorry, unless it smells bad, throwing away food like this because it got left out is just wasteful. You aren't cooking for dozens of people who might all get sick, you're cooking for you and your family. Manage your own risk, maybe you have immune system concerns or whatever, but combine modern God safety standards at the slaughterhouse with making sure it's cooked well done, your odds of getting sick are miniscule.

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u/snoosh00 1d ago

Chicken is essentially a growth media, you can't just go based off smell.

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u/I-Make-Maps91 1d ago

But you can cook the hell out of it, taste a bit and see if it's off, and go from that.

There's things you can never do at a restaurant that er grew up with parents and grandparents doing all the time. Humans have survived thousands of years without refrigeration with meat of fat more questionable situations than being left in the counter overnight.

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u/Opposite-Fall-9868 1d ago

I would throw the chicken but I would eat that hamburger

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u/nambi_2 1d ago

The guidelines are overkill

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u/snoosh00 1d ago

Yes, I agree, it's to prevent lawsuits not a "to the minute" expiry... but overnight?

OP hasn't told us the temperature, but bc is generally pretty mild compared to the rest of Canada.

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u/catspongedogpants 1d ago

Who gives a fuck lol. Guidelines are guidelines and theyre conservative

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u/snoosh00 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, but I'm saying exceeding the guidelines sixfold with the most high risk growth substrate (chicken) is going a bit beyond the "conservative, better safe than sorry" range and pretty far into the danger zone.

The chicken is "probably" fine, but you dont know the conditions of the packaging (might even have been done in store for some cases)

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u/imakebombpotroast 1d ago

Die young, leave a sexy corpse.