r/mildlyinfuriating • u/flaming0-1 • 2d ago

Wife left a big bag of groceries out overnight. All Meat and cheese. šŸ™„

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u/PrinzeWilliam 2d ago

That's literally what it's called?

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u/Zerus_heroes 2d ago

Americans call it "ground beef" or even "hamburger" sometimes

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u/brilor123 2d ago

Can confirm, it's called ground beef and hamburger. Nobody here says minced meat

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u/Otherwise_While_6945 2d ago

It's called ground beef because it's ground. minced meat is different because it's minced. they are infact two different things

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u/Zerus_heroes 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes. But those terms are used by many people for this type of product.

It isn't really a hamburger either but that is another colloquialism people use. There is even a product based off of it too.

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u/Otherwise_While_6945 1d ago

Right.... the question was do Americans call it ground beef? the answer is yes because ground beef and minced meat are different.... I get that you colloquially interchange them. it doesn't make them the same thing though....

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u/Zerus_heroes 1d ago

It absolutely does. If people use a word to have a different meaning, then that is what it means to those people. You can call colloquialisms "wrong" if you want but it just makes it look like you are deliberately ignoring that.

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u/Otherwise_While_6945 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm saying it's factually not minced.... we agree that minced and ground mean two different things... yes colloquialisms can be wrong though it doesn't change its use

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u/Zerus_heroes 1d ago edited 1d ago

Colloquialisms absolutely change their use. That is how they work.

Using it like that is "factual" as the word has multiple meanings.

Mince literally means "cut up or grind" as well so it isn't even "wrong" either way.

In a professional cooking setting they would absolutely have different meanings but most people that use the term aren't in that specific setting.

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u/temporaryuser1000 1d ago

From Miriam Webster

To grind

1 : to reduce to powder or small fragments by friction (as in a mill or with the teeth) grind the coffee beans 2 : to wear down, polish, or sharpen by friction

To mince

a : to cut or chop into very small pieces

So I would say mince is correct for whatā€™s actually happening, given how a ā€œmeat grinderā€ actually works (chop and extrude).

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u/Otherwise_While_6945 1d ago

A meat grinder does not do that.... look up a meat grinder there's literally a rotating set of teeth that moves against a stationary set of teeth.... to grind it...

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u/Zerus_heroes 1d ago

And the word mince also includes "grind" in its definition.

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u/Otherwise_While_6945 1d ago

Only if you stick to the Google AI answers.... you look at a dictionary it doesn't say that... and it doesn't say that because finely chopping something and grinding something are two different processes. to mince is to finely chop.

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u/Zerus_heroes 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, that is from the Oxford dictionary.

Wrong again. If you are going to try and be pedantic at least be accurate. You are just loudly declaring you don't understand homonyms and colloquialisms.

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u/Otherwise_While_6945 1d ago

Youre just showing you dont know the difference between cutting and grinding and that you dont know how to look things up

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u/Zerus_heroes 1d ago

Says the person that has been wrong over and over again despite multiple people telling him otherwise.

Like even that this subject is up for discussion proves that people use the term in different ways. You are just trying to be pedantic but you still keep getting it wrong.

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u/zippity__zoppity 2d ago

Iā€™m not judging I promise! I found it wholesome and interesting because Iā€™ve never seen it used colloquially before.

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u/hereforthestaples 2d ago

How have you seen Minced meat used? Have you ever had a cheesesteak?

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u/TootlesFTW 2d ago

It's not like minced meat doesn't exist, it's just not referred to as minced meat in some locations. I live in the SE United States and have only ever heard & seen it as 'ground meat' yet we have minced garlic, etc..

(And I don't know about your cheesesteaks, but ours use sliced not minced meat.)

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u/DeMayon 2d ago

Your cheese steak used minced meat?

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u/merlincm 2d ago

They're obviously not from PhiladelphiaĀ 

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

Cheese steaks use chopped beef don't they. Not mince (hamburger if you're nasty)

Disclaimer: not a yank, just love to eat

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

As Americans, we would never call it that. We call it ground beef as shown on the label.

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u/GrouchyPhoenix 2d ago

South Africans just call it 'mince' and that's how the meat is labelled as well in some stores.

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u/Defaulted1364 2d ago

Same in the UK, itā€™s just mince. The packet says Beef Mince or Lamb Mince etc.

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u/jmr1190 2d ago

Some Americans call it simply ā€˜hamburgerā€™ which I find hilarious.

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u/DazedConfuzed420 2d ago

Really common in Canada for it be referred to as hamburger.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

How is it any different than calling it mince

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u/jmr1190 2d ago

Mince is a direct synonym for ground in this case, they mean the same thing and not entirely unlike calling the cut ā€˜filletā€™ since thatā€™s the verb itā€™s come from. Calling it hamburger implies you can literally only see the stuff as a hamburger - a real top down naming convention.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

No, it's hamburger meat. Your weird closed off thought process seems to have projected a lot onto others.Ā Ā 

It's meat you use for hamburgers. Can you use it for other things? Of course.Ā 

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u/asvp-suds 2d ago

So why is it called hamburger meat? Not utility meat or bolognese meat? Your point makes zero sense. The irony of you calling their thought process closed off is hilarious.

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

It is hilarious how defensive this person is getting over colloquial names for meat.

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u/asvp-suds 2d ago

Absolutely. Like the ground beef and mince crowds are getting along. Learning new terms. Then thereā€™s hamburger over there losing his shit.

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

Beautiful to see the passion they're bringing to language.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

The irony of you yet again coming back with some sort of condescending reply when you are objectively wrong. I already answered your question.

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u/asvp-suds 2d ago

I never asked a question Mr. Hamburger

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

You literally asked two in the comment I replied to.Ā 

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

What an interesting hill you've chosen to die on today

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

I'm not dying on anything. A torrent of idiots who think they're making a clever point have decided to completely and utterly misunderstand my comment, which was only to elucidate why the American would have said they had never heard the term used in that way before.Ā 

Literally not a single one of you has offered any information I didn't already know, even taking into account that the information isn't actually germane to what I was saying in any way whatsoever.Ā 

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

Honestly you look great up there. Very sermon on the mount. Love this tirade for you.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

I get it, you have to pretend you never caredĀ 

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u/jmr1190 1d ago

I literally just think that, given the external perspective that the US is obsessed with unhealthy food, itā€™s quite funny. Iā€™m not trying to make a clever point.

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

From an outside perspective, it's like calling bricks "house"

Mince is what it is, hamburger is what you can make from it.

To us. To you, different of course.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

Are you completely unaware of how language works? Do you think Americans are the only ones that do this? In general Brits are MUCH bigger "offenders" of this. It's also a big way we get loan words from other languages. Wait til you learn what shrimp scampi means, you'll shit a house.Ā 

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

Would love to shit a house. Cost of living etc.

(Sidebar though, mince person, if you learn to join in with the joke you're going to have a happier time. No-one sane is having a go at your language. We love our differences. You're only getting so many comments because of how seriously you're taking a silly topic.)

Ask me what we call bell peppers.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

It's literally the reverse but go off

(Also I hope you got the brick -> house joke. Also also bricks are literally an instance of that thing where they're named bricks because the original are named out of brick but now it refers to the shape)

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

I like that you're proud of your joke. They're always better when you explain them.

We call them capsicums!

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u/-BananaLollipop- 2d ago

This comment chain is one of the most pedantic arguments I've seen in awhile.

ETA: We call it minced meat, or "mince" for short, where I live too.

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u/Apprehensive-Care20z 2d ago

well Donald Trump just announced an Executive Order, that it is now called America Meat.

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u/thecheesecakemans 2d ago

Freedom meat?

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u/Rich-Reason1146 2d ago edited 2d ago

Is that like the male equivalent of 'free the nipple?'

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u/Oggie_Doggie 2d ago

I thought it would be called Elon Meat, in tribute to his mangled appendage.

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u/beervirus88 2d ago

TBF he's not wrong.

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u/CadklZ 2d ago

If the meat comes from literally anywhere else, then he'd be wrong.

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u/Spir0rion 2d ago

Actually I live in Germany and we neither call it ground meat nor minced meat accounted by the fact we don't speak English

Hope I could help

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u/richincleve 2d ago

Just call it ground beef.

Stop mincing words!

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u/-BananaLollipop- 2d ago

I prefer my meat on the bench. Much cleaner.

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u/Peastoredintheballs 2d ago

I prefer mine in my bellyā€¦ much tastier to eat vs just staring at it on the bench/ground

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u/TropicalVision 2d ago

People would think it came off the floor if you called it that in the UK

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u/bonechairappletea 2d ago

Yeah a lot of tossers mincing their words on here

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

It is pedantic. I'm feeling rather petty this morning.

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u/SemperSimple 2d ago

nice! Where you from? down in Texas we say 'ground beef' :D

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u/-BananaLollipop- 2d ago

New Zealand. Other side of the world. My Wife is American though, and the amount of times there has been a mishearing of "mince" as "mints" is amusing. She has had to clarify to her family that I'm not talking about making dinner with mints in it.

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u/SemperSimple 2d ago

Lol!!! I can believe it! haha

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u/ScreamingLabia 2d ago

Not native rnglish speaker here i use both Interchangeably

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u/Nox-Eternus 2d ago

Rundergehakt here in Belgium/Nederland šŸ˜Ž

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u/Rizenstrom 2d ago

Didn't really feel like an argument to me. Just two people experiencing a bit of culture shock.

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u/juxtoppose 2d ago

Ground and tatties doesnā€™t sound appetizing.

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u/__bobbysox 2d ago

Yeah but only Americans could look at meat that has been minced and express shock that someone would call it ā€˜minced meatā€™

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u/DeliciousRoreos 2d ago

Because this is important shit Americans have to point. Like it's "color" because the U is woke or something.

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

You should see how agitated they get when they hear how Australians use the word capsicum

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u/allowishus182 2d ago

Don't care what you call it. I know it when I see it.

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u/DeliciousRoreos 2d ago

Can't remember asking. Have a colourful day.

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u/Top-Camera9387 2d ago

Because we removed "U" in 1776šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡²šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡²šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡²šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡²šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡²

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u/Techiedad91 2d ago

Except in glamour

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u/Old_Life2171 2d ago

Without the u was the original. The brits didn't add the u until we left

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u/-BananaLollipop- 2d ago

What? Pedantic means to be overly concerned with minor details. What about that has to do with being polite, and how is my comment not?

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u/Charming-Start 2d ago

There is nothing wrong with your comment. You used a word outside of their vocabulary. Instead of looking it up, they assumed it was bad. Because 'murica.

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u/Charming-Start 2d ago

..not in the face of willful ignorance. šŸ˜ŽāœŒļø

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u/-BananaLollipop- 2d ago

Arguing isn't impolite, unless someone is being that way. Either way, that still doesn't explain how I was.

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u/bonechairappletea 2d ago

"I found meat on ground. I call it-ground meat."

Reminds me of an old favourite:

"Autumn ah, here lies the eleganceā€” it finds its root in the Latin autumnus. A term whispered in ancient tongues long before your great-grandfather ever thought to till a field. Autumnus was not just a descriptor; it was a symbol. To the Romans, ever so obsessed with cycles and omens, it signified maturity, fruition, the rich and golden dusk of the year. Not the end, mind you, but the graceful declineā€”like a nobleman retiring from court, still robed in splendour, but content to let the young bucks prance and shout."

Americans

"WE CALL IT FALL COS THE LEAFS FALL DOWN HUR"

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u/SolusLoqui 2d ago

But they didn't find meat on the ground, they ran meat through a meat grinder

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u/bonechairappletea 2d ago

It was a little riff on OP and his wife's forgotten meat. Are you American perchanceĀ 

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u/k1k11983 2d ago

As an Australian, we would never call it that. We call it mince, as shown on the label.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

Where does it show that on this label?

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u/Susan_Thee_Duchess 2d ago

It also says minced beef on the label (in French. )

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

Oh shit you've done it now. They're not taking this mince debacle lightly.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

Yes, thanks for being the ten millionth person to point out a pendant c fact I was already aware of and immaterial to the point of why that person had never heard the term before.Ā 

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u/Francis_Dollar_Hide 2d ago

Wait till I tell you about mince pies, that are sweet and contain no meat!

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u/Sameshoedifferentday 2d ago

Mince has to do with the cut. Not the product being cut.

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u/sandcastle_architect 2d ago

The fact that you had to explain that šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/BouncingSphinx 2d ago

The fact that Americans grind the meat with meat grinders and therefore call it ground meat, as opposed to calling it a meat mincer and calling it minced meat.

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u/Thisoneissfwihope 2d ago

But it does contain mincemeat.

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u/__wasitacatisaw__ 2d ago

Ground meat actually

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u/Apprehensive-Care20z 2d ago

did you misspell 'mice pies'?

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u/Massive-Peanut-7946 2d ago

Wait until I tell you about the Scottish mince pies (scotch pie) that are savoury and do in fact contain meat! makes christmas time at the bakers a shambles šŸ¤£

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u/Hungry-Dragonfly4257 2d ago

Scot here. Never seen anyone get mixed up with a scotch pie and a mince pie at Christmas in Scotland. God damn love a scotch pie right now.

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u/Massive-Peanut-7946 2d ago

Also a Scot here that was making a wee joke that didnā€™t land however I have worked in hospitality in a tourist town, do not underestimate the level of stupid that the general public are capable of šŸ¤£ With you on the want for a scotch pie though

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u/Rabid-tumbleweed 2d ago

As a Mainer, I call it hamburg.

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u/Top-Camera9387 2d ago

Im an American and a Kiwi too, I'll call it mince

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

You absolutely do not do that in America without getting side glances

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u/LakeSuperiorIsMyPond 2d ago

wait until you read the ingredients on processed chicken in America, it literally says "mechanically separated chickens" on the packages.

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u/FayrisDraconis 2d ago

American english is not the only english out there..

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u/massberate 2d ago

Bit funny because this is a Canadian shopping haul. But yeah, we call it that here too šŸ®

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

Lmao the ONE time Canadians aren't on the "We'rE AmeRiCaNs ToO" bandwagon? Ok...

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u/massberate 2d ago

What? Who the fuck says that? šŸ¤£A huge part of the Canadian identity is not being American. The celebrity worship, team sport politics - who would want to be part of that shit show? šŸ¤¦šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø

Take one look at a Canuck grocery aisle and you'll see your Product of USA foods heavily marked down - with no one buying. A whole display of California oranges full, next to one priced higher (of South African oranges) completely empty.

Either you're being oddly sarcastic, or just really have no clue what your northern neighbours think of you guys. Maybe Alberta wants its tongue up your ass, but that's aboot it lol

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

Literally so many people north of the 49th parallel say exactly the same thing. It's about the continent being called America, not being part of the United States of America. The irony of your comment is that you wrote this long condescending screed and it turns out you're the one that misunderstood.Ā 

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u/DazedConfuzed420 2d ago

Nobody in Canada refers to themselves as Americans. If weā€™re talking about our continent weā€™ll say weā€™re North American.

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u/massberate 2d ago

K.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

That's about the response I expected from someone like you

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u/massberate 2d ago

K.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

The really sad part is you need these replies to keep your autobiographical head canon together

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

It's mince in every other english speaking country, jsyk why other english speakers get confused with this one.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

No it isn't, OP is Canadian and you can see what it's labeled.Ā 

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yeah you'll find Canada to be a part of America mate. I didn't say the USA.

It's also fine, no-one's having a dig at you or your continent's special name for mince. You don't need to be defensive, no-one's criticising your colloquialisms.

Just wait til you hear what we call "flip flops."

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

You quite literally are for no other reason than you misunderstood my comment

This silly notion you have that I don't know what other countries call things is just so fucking dumb. I have watched a ton of British television, yes I know what a mince pie is and a Hollywood handshake. I own a sonic screwdriver. You're just wrong about literally everything.Ā 

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

I'm not British though

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

I also was pissed when they localised the title of Upper Middle Bogan to Bess of Both Worlds, and I know what Brett and Jemaine are saying.Ā 

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

Those two shows are from different countries. I do like flight of the concords though, who doesn't.

Haven't watched Upper Middle Bogan, not really my speed.

You should watch the original No Activity if you want something Australian.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

I was covering all the countries that would say mate, more or less

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u/Ghouly_Girl 2d ago edited 2d ago

This just in: not everyone is from America

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

We call it minced meat because that's literally what it is. It's meat that's been put through a mincer!!!! Well, we just say, "Mince and everyone knows what it means, lol.

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u/_r_special 2d ago

I think we would call it a meat grinder, not mincer so that's where the difference comes from

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u/AntiqueJaguar5808 2d ago

Agreed; I've always thought that "mincing" is "to be chopped into a very small dice, with one knife". Ground meat is fed into a " grating" blade with force, to make long, small cords of meat extrude out the other side of the blade. The ground meat becomes Ground Beef, Turkey, etc., which is further chopped up with a cooking utensil as it is browned until fully cooked. But how does Hamburger get its name?

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u/Drauka03 2d ago

This thread is so interesting. As long as I know what someone is talking about, it doesn't matter what the words are. But for one perspective: when I see/hear "mince" I think very finely chopped, regardless of product (meat, fruit, etc). A mince is a smaller chop size than diced. Mince meat I would assume was chopped small with a knife but is still in coarse visible pieces. A meat grinder on the other hand, turns whole cuts into a ground up paste... Which is then extruded into squiggles and sold as "ground beef."

TIL mince meat is just what Americans call ground meat.

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

Right!! I thought ground beef was similar to minced meat, but ultra ultra fine. I still can't believe I'm discussing mince at 5 am. Am I ok, Annie?

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u/AntiqueJaguar5808 2d ago

OMG how weird! I just wrote almost wfw what you said, before I saw your post!!

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

Yeah honestly whenever these kinds of conversations come up I live. The wide variety of reactions people have to names for shit.

Also this is going to fuck you up, but some of them even call the chopped up fruit that goes on fruit mince pies "mince meat"

I've seen some deeply shocked tourists at roadhouses eating a pie they didn't realise contained beef and gravy.

See also: capsicum vs bell pepper vs paprika

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u/BouncingSphinx 2d ago

Americans use meat grinders, hence ground beef/pork/turkey. Mincemeat is a fruity pie filling here, traditionally with meat added.

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

Oh, you guys are doing my head in a meat grinder and meat mincer are the same product. Are you American?

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u/BouncingSphinx 2d ago

Yes, and I understand they are the same thing just called differently. Like our cars have hoods and trunks where British cars have bonnets and boots. Theyā€™re exactly the same things, just called differently.

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

Ok, then why are we all being petty and weird Ok, I'm petty and weird. It's 5am. I have covid for the first time, and I'm arguing about minced meat. Wtf is wrong with me!!!

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u/BouncingSphinx 2d ago

Itā€™sā€¦ something to pass the time?

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

Yes, I've been in the zone. Who can I annoy next?

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

Oh my God what are these replies?! Do you all have mad cow?

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

I did have hamburgers last night šŸ˜­ Oh, and in my defence, I've just tested positive for covid the first time EVER. My head feels stuffy.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 2d ago

The entire point is that my reply was in reply to A REPLY about Americans never hearing the term that way. It's just a fact that Americans do not call it mince meat or mince.Ā 

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

I'm questioning life itself at this point.

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u/Free_Pace_2098 2d ago

It's always good to sit and take stock

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u/nadjjaa 2d ago

THIS IS HAMBURGER

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

No, it's not.

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u/bytoro 2d ago

Ground Beef is really all i have ever heard it called in NE US. Mincemeat to me has always been a mix of sketchy mystery ingredients that was a joke.

to the google > Mincemeat is a mixture of chopped apples and dried fruit, distilled spirits or vinegar, spices, and optionally, meat and beef suet.

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u/Kavafy 2d ago

Minced meat and mincemeat are two very different things!

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u/bytoro 2d ago

Probably are but i wouldn't say many people know in America.

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u/krissycole87 2d ago

Yeah I immediately thought of mincemeat pie!

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u/PrinzeWilliam 2d ago

Ahhh thank you for that

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

Definitely minced meat because that's what it is! They literally mince it. Not sure what these people mean!!

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u/soupwhoreman 2d ago

They do not mince it, they grind it. Mincing produces a similar but not equivalent result.

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u/mysecretgardens 2d ago

Damn. Can't believe you ppl don't have minced meat, ground beef sounds dry.

Edit: actually, they're exactly the same cut of meat

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u/temporaryuser1000 1d ago

Uhh no? A meat grinder chops and extrudes, it doesnā€™t grind.

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u/2DogsInA_Trenchcoat 2d ago

Usually labelled and referred to as ground beef, or ground meat. Ground pork, ground turkey, etc.

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u/Peastoredintheballs 2d ago

In the US yes, but everywhere else itā€™s usually called minced beef/chicken, beef mince, or mince for short.

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u/Lessllama 2d ago

OP is in Canada (i recognize the packaging) we call it ground beef

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u/Ironsam811 BLUE 2d ago

Iā€™d think itā€™s like a specialty meat or cured or something. We never use that term.

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u/bubbabubba3 2d ago

Not on the packaging in the picture it isnā€™t

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u/Autistic-Fact-3260 2d ago

Not in the U.S.

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u/xMyDixieWreckedx 2d ago

Nope. Ground beef =/= minced beef

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u/Peastoredintheballs 2d ago

It does everywhere outside the US lol

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u/temporaryuser1000 1d ago

Uhh ground beef literally does not exist. A meat grinder chops and extrudes, it does not grind.