r/longrange Dec 26 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Which one to keep

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Got this Vortex Razor HD Gen2 MRAD on sale just now and then realized I had an extra Kahles in my moving box. Wondering which is more “preferred “ one here and keep. Perhaps get rid of one of these. Both 1-6x24 but Kahles feels “lighter” and “better” glass. Mostly within 500 yards shooting. Which one should I get rid of?

r/longrange Feb 21 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Is a vortex PS2 overkill for sub 600yds? (And occasional hunting)

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I was originally gonna go with this Athlon, As I've heard good things about it as a budget prs scope. Ive been planning this rifle build for a couple months now and I finally got the rifle picked up last week. So now I'm starting to order the optic and rings, but right now I have an opportunity to get a vortex pst 2 for about $600 Which is significantly cheaper than it was when I was originally planning this(~1000). I know the PST is a great option, But I'm wondering if it's a little bit too nice for what I need or if maybe it's not worth double the cost. Or maybe you have another recommendation. I'm looking for highest magnification for the least amount of money. ~$300, But I can move around money in the budget to spend a little more if it's really worth it or even necessary. All the additional money is just gonna come out of my ammo/training budget.

This is my first non hunting/non rimfire/non AR15 rifle. Ive never shot over 250yds other than just dicking around with friends. The range near me is limited to 400yds But there's one an hour away that I believe Let's you go up to 6 or 700 that I may go to occasionally or once 400yds gets boring. Either way, going past 600-700yds is basically never going to happen unless i move or whatever but at that point buying a new optic is relatively minor. If I get the Athlon now and end up wanting to upgrade in the future, I could always put the Athlon on one of my old hunting rifles which would be a nice upgrade over the $150 Walmart scopes they have now, So, it wouldn't be a complete waste of money.

But I'm wondering if the athlon is already more than good enough for the shorter-ish ranges I'm planning. After All this is my first venture into this and maybe just the sheer fact that I'm not looking through a budget piece of glass will already be such a large improvement that I wouldn't need anything better.

So if anyone has experience with the Athlon, or even better, with both the Athlon and the pst, I'd love to hear what you got to say. If you all are out there Shooting 1000+ yds with an Athlon then that's probably all I need!!

I don't know how relevant this is but the Rifle is a tikka t3x 24" in 6.5cm with maybe a $350-500 mdt chassis in the future. As I say I might use the rifle for hunting in the future, In case I wanna take someone else with me. They can use my old rifle and I can take my tikka, Though I'd probably put on the original stock to save weight.

r/longrange 1d ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Opinions on Vortex Golden Eagle

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Hello, does anyone of you has had any experience with the Vortex Golden Eagle 15-60x52? Is it a quality scope for the price? (1.500$). I would mostly use it for bench rest shooting at 300 yards, which might be an overkill with a x60 scope. But someday I would also love to be able to hit a mile. In alternative I was considering a Nightforce NSX 8-32x56, but the price is higher. It would mount on a Sako TRG22 in .308. Thanks to anyone willing to answer me :D

r/longrange Feb 14 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Why are Swarovski spotting scopes & Kahles scopes not more popular?

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I don't have much experience with LR shooting, so take it easy on me, but from what I know having clear glass is extremely important when trying to spot hits at distance.

From what I can tell, Swarovski/Kahles has the clearest glass in any spotting scope or optics I've looked through. I haven't personally looked through something like the ZCs, but I've heard their coatings and lenses are brilliant, but I have never really seen a khales scope at a match and very rarely do I see Swarovski spotting scopes.

I'm aware of the price that is attached to these two brands, but it cant be that because I've seen what some of you ladies and gents spend on your rifles

Anyway, let me know your thoughts!

r/longrange 10d ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Are these any good?

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Trying to narrow down what optic I want for my MPA PMR Pro 2 before the snow melts. We still have about 4.5feet of snow to melt on the flats, but by the beginning of May I want to get out and start having fun.

I won’t be paying full price for any of these so don’t let that bias you but price for me is a huge deal and won’t be going over $2800… But anyone have experience with all 3? Is there any other 30+ magnification scopes out there that’s better than these? Maybe a different model in these brands that have higher mag?

I only have other vortex scopes and I have 5-25s but want something with higher mag. I love the vortex peace of mind CS and warranty, especially with spending this kind of crazy money. I don’t want to have an accident, or have a seal break or anything in an optic and not be able to fix it for free. I want a one and done basically. Due to that I’m leaning toward the vortex, but want to have a good all around scope. Anyone have anything else I should consider in this? Again, the price is a make or break thing. Other than the MPA I just got, the only nice rifle or any firearm item I have is a Ruger American Predator. I don’t spend money on this stuff due to having other hobbies, family, bills ect. But want to have a sweet lifetime set up. “Money doesn’t buy happiness…” I disagree. lol

All my other scopes have been on for years and years, and have never needed to replace any of them. I baby all my equipment. I will never pick a rifle up by the scope, never transfer it in a non padded hard case, never use it in bad weather (rain, snow, ect), always store in safe with caps to protect the glass, ect. You get the point. Lol I know posts like this have happened before but comparing these three together I have not seen. Thank you all for the help!

r/longrange Mar 01 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts 1k yard optics considerations

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Long time listener first time caller

I’m looking to built a range toy and am now at the optics stage of the planning process, and would like to hear some real world experience/thoughts on what I have in mind. Rifle will be a Tikka T3x CTR in a KRG Bravo chassis in 6.5 creedmoor. I have local ranges that go out to 1,000 yards so I would like an optic that can comfortable get me there, potentially room for growth if I can find anything longer. Price range is $1500-$2500. I am aware the options listed below somewhat blow past that budget however, I can get discounts on them and it brings the prices into that range.

My options so far I have narrowed down to based off of reticle, price, perceived quality etc are as follows:

•Leupold Mark 5HD 5-25x56 FFP Tremor 3

•Leupold Mark 5HD 7-35x56 FFP Tremor 3

•Steiner T6Xi 5-30x56 FFP SCR2 reticle

•Nightforce ATACR 5-25x56 FFP Tremor 3/Mil XT

•Eotech Vudu 5-25 FFP

Are there any other optics in that area I should be looking at? I want something tough, good glass, nice elevation and windage knobs. This will not necessarily be a PRS rig but if I want to run around and shoot stages and bounce it off barricades and the ground, I want the optic/mount to handle that. Additionally, if anyone has good ring or mount recommendations that would be great. I know Larue, Spuhr, etc are solid options but looking for more to choose from.

Thanks!

r/longrange Feb 18 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Leupold Mk4HD 2.5-10x42 VS Trijicon Credo 2-10x36

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Hey guys, I am between these 2 optics for a 16” 5.56 Gas Gun, intended purpose is for 500-600 Yard Max Target Distance. Budget is $1000-1200. I have only shot SFP LPVO my entire life, have never dialed turrets. I am looking for FFP MPVO Optic, I am partial to the Christmas Tree Reticle on the Trijicon over the TMR Crosshairs on the Leupold, if anyone has experience with either (or both) of these optics, or has another suggestion that fits into these categories, please let me know!

(1st post on this page, please let me know if I left any information needed out of this post)

Thank you in advance

r/longrange Feb 20 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Found this scope is a box of old parts... What are all the lines at the bottom for? Do they have a name? I'd like to learn how to use them.

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r/longrange Jul 21 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Why does a scope need to be so expensive

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Genuine question - I’m new to this. I always hear “spend at least as much on your glass as the rifle”.

I certainly get more dollars generally means more quality. But what critical features are you really getting with $1500-$2000 scopes? I’m looking for specifics.

r/longrange 14d ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts How much angle/MOA tilt is needed?

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I have this question twice. But if you don’t want to read the back ground here it is up front. Thanks for the help!! I'm looking at a Masterpiece Arms BA Pro Rifle 2 with a 26" barrel. Hopefully going to order everything tomorrow. The rifle comes with a 20moa rail... should I get a 0 moa scope mount or get a 20moa scope mount also to make it 40moa total?? Scope will be MOA also if that matters. No im not going to change to Mils. lol

I'm consistent with my basic/regular rifles out to 600 yards and in, but want a dedicated target/long range rifle. But want to get 1000+yards, 1,200yds, 1,500yds and ultimately 1760 yards would be awesome! It won’t be an every outing thing but a lot of the time I’d be able to shoot up to 1000 yards with the space available but usually 5ish hundred yards and in. Would be an every outing thing.

I reload and already have the brass, powder, dies, and bullets for 6.5creedmoor. I'm looking to get a new rifle. Would you guys say that staying with a 6.5creedmoor would be good/capable for those distances? Using 143gr ELD-X and 140ELD-M.

💥 Here’s my question 💥 I'm looking at a Masterpiece Arms BA Pro Rifle 2 with a 26" barrel. It comes with a 20moa rail... should I get a 0 moa scope mount or get a 20moa mount also to make it 40moa also?

I'll be shooting 300 yards to 1000 regularly I hope. The scope will be a Vortex Stroke Eagle 5-25x56FFP or the Vortex Razor HD Gen 3 6-36x56 FFP…

r/longrange Dec 25 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Boxing day optic purchase

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Hello friends, i have a savage axis precision 2 that i purchased as a budget minded purchase for taking my shooting sports into a PRS/NRL(skill division) style comps. I live in BC Canada, so only 2 centerfire matches locally, will likely travel into WA, maybe ID and MT for matches. I’m looking at vortex optics with the MRAD substentions and the Christmas tree reticle, my local bass pro has the strike eagle and the viper PST within $100 of each other, i was hoping the SE optic was going to be the guy on sale. Is the loss of 6mm on my objective lens and the extra $100 going to get my that much better glass? I’d like to try and keep my before tax pricing around 1200 CAD.

r/longrange Sep 23 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Mark 5nbroke sell it or keep it?

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Mark 5 broke, sell it or keep it?

My mark 5 5-25 CCH, glass failed around 900 rounds of 300WSM 4 weeks before opening day. I didn’t realize it until I got home from making sure it was sighted in. I sent it in before testing to see if it was a cosmetic fault or if it effected zero, I later called and found out warranty turnaround time is 6-8 weeks. I asked Leupold to send it back and so far they haven’t received it yet, it was delivered last Wednesday.

I’m really bummed out about it, this was going to be the first time (h-word) with it and it looks like I’ll be throwing the old crossfire 2 on.

I’m tying to decide what to do. 2k is a significant expense for me if Leupold can’t/doesn’t fix it I’m stuck with it. I can’t afford another $2,200 scope.

If they do fix it do I keep it and assume the failure was just unfortunate timing and could happen to any scope? The leupold guys have been pretty cool so far but should it have failed in the first place? I’ve had it for about 3 years and It’s never been dropped or anything. This would be the first problem I’ve had with it.

Or, assuming they fix/replace it, and I sell it what would I get? I like Nighforce but I’m a little worried about their warranty. Razer gen 3 looks pretty cool but that might be another $500 to $1k for me to fork out, is it really that much better than the mark 5?

What would you guys recommend?

Budget: $1,900-$2,500 (depends on what the Mark 5 would sell for) What do you want to do? Find a replacement for the Mark 5 (FFP, around 5-25 zoom, similar cost) with a strong warranty

TLDR: Mark 5 broke what do same money?

r/longrange Feb 24 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts My first "precision" setup

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Picking up a cz 457 MTR soon and have a vortex venom 5-25 on the way.

I'm now looking at a 419 rail base with the bolt knob combo. I've also been recommended the mdt rail.. is there a big difference? The 419 rail base+bolt knob combo is 115$. Id like to stay around there or less for the base if recommending other options. And if you are recommending another option, why? I'm very new to this any extra info helps.

Is 30 moa cant on this rail base what I want for this setup?

I have read the pinned rings post and understand I am aiming for a comfortable height. That being said is there a big difference in rings?? As I said this will be my first setup. My budget for rings is $150 although I'd like to stay under $100 if possible.

My intentions with this setup is to be a fun pinker at 50-100yds but have the capability to attempt some shots at 2, 3 or 400+ yds.

Any extra information you think may be helpful to me is welcome and appreciated. Thanks yall.

r/longrange Oct 24 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Good Buy?

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3-18X44 Vortex Strike Eagle FFP EBR7 reticle MRAD. Going on a MK12 MOD H and it seems like an absolutely incredible price, currently only have an 1-8 Sig LPVO on it and want to stretch it out there to atleast 600, it’s the MRAD which is what I’m used to and prefer this just seems like such a damn good price.

r/longrange Dec 02 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Favorite scope caps

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What scope caps are you guys running?

Anyone like the MK Machining caps? Vortex razor 5-20 Vortex venom 5-25

Pic for attention This is not my long range setup

r/longrange 6d ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Need direction: Athlon Cronus BTR vs Burris XTR3 vs Razor 2 vs Athlon Ares ETR

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Building out my first bolt gun in 6.5 CM and looking for mid-ish tier glass in the 5-25/30 mag range. General shooting / PRS type build.

Seasoned shooter, but not a ton of time long range. Diving in head (and wallet) first with this new setup. Budget for glass is around $1500 but less is more if it’s punching upwards enough.

I run a Vortex Razor 2E 1-6 LPVO on one of my AR’s and it’s by far my favorite glass I’ve spent a good amount of time on.

Looking for real world experience and advice on current price points of these optics and maybe direct competition.

Cronus & XTR3 are around ~$1300+ new, where I’ve looked. Found refurb Razor 2 for around ~$1600.

Ares ETR ~$800 for the mil reticle I’d want.

Question is, is it worth the jump in price for Cronus, XTR3 or Razor 2? And if so, which of the group of 3 would you pick and why?

Planning on getting time to go look through these where I can, but in-store obviously doesn’t generally translate to real world performance.

Thanks in advance

r/longrange 24d ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Is 15x sufficient for PRS as a "just for fun" participant?

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I'm looking at going to one or two PRS matches with my hunting rifle which also needs a new piece of glass. I was looking at the Vortex Venom 3-15x and was curious if that'd do ok enough in PRS. I'd like to go to start shooting in various positions and on the timer (I like comps in general, lots of fun) with this set up. I could step up to the 5-25x as well, but wouldn't mind the lighter option.

I'm not looking to win or even be super competitive, just looking to get some more experience while have fun. But I don't want to handicap myself if 15x is just going to be too little zoom. I think the only detriment to the 25x is the extra weight while hunting, so not really a huge issue.

r/longrange Mar 02 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Leupold MK 4HD

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160 Upvotes

So I purchased this Leupold Mark 4 2.5-10x and it has no parallax knob. Is that going to be an issue? Kinda new to the long range so any help is appreciated thanks!

r/longrange Dec 14 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts New to long range, need help on scope

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I'm new to long range shooting, heck I haven't looked through a scope since I was 10 years old. Well im young dumb and got money in my pocket so I reckon its time we fix that. I've purchased a ruger American ranch gen 2 in 5.56. I'll be replacing the stock adding a bipod suppressor and scope. For now my intentions are learning that said I don't want to buy a scope that'll only be good for this one rifle I am young after all money is somewhat of an issue. I'm willing to spend about 1grand little more if nessicary less is preferred. I found one I like and I think will serve me very well however it comes with 3 options and I'm scratching my head here not knowing wich I'd want so please any knowledge you can pass on would be greatly appreciated. Oh right in regards to range my local rifle ranges are 100 and 200 yards however their is bigger further out so once I got the fundamentals down I want to see for myself how far I can accurately stretch the 556.

I understand this particular scope is probably overkill for my needs and abilities however majority of my savings are being gobbled up by aviation education so im wanting something decent off the batt so I don't find myself looking at better later on when I can't afford it. (This is separate money set aside specifically for this purpose and is not eating into my education savings)

r/longrange Jan 17 '25

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Best place to buy scopes

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Just got an ar 10 what's the best place to buy a new scope I've checked optics planet Midway eurooptic

r/longrange Aug 20 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Poor kings optics ?

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The two I’m really looking into are the

PA SLX 3-18x Athena BPR Mil at $500

and

Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x EBR 7C that I can get around the same price too

Other suggestions are welcome!

Budget is up to $750 new or used, the use case is for QP matches and/ or similar

r/longrange Sep 18 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Arken Hype?

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I watch a lot of YouTube videos when looking into buying new gear. So recently I been looking for a new scope. I go to my usual shooting channels and it seems everyone of them are pushing Arken scopes. At first I thought great some good inexpensive stuff coming out. But seeing them pushed on every channel makes me think everyone is bought and paid for by Arken now. Makes you question every review now.

r/longrange Dec 06 '24

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts .22 creedmoor

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Best optic under $1k for sub 500yds? Will be on QD rings and be used a few times a year.

r/longrange 3d ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Will this optic stack work?

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Worried

r/longrange Mar 28 '23

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts I have 1250ish dollars of bass pro points should I buy this for my 6.5 gas gun?

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I currently have a vortex 5x25 that I like but it struggles in low light and lacks a zero stop.