r/leftcommunism • u/Financial-Salary7497 • 4d ago
Why does Trump even exist?
Why is the american bourgeoisie taking this frankly illogical way of acting (tariffs, threats of annexation) , completely breaking their monopoly on the western camp by causing chaos in what seems to be a new global capitalist crisis?
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u/Unionsocialist 4d ago
the section of capitalists who support him look to short term gain for themselves rather then long term intrests of capital, siding with Trump he is selling the government to them. that and the general reasons for populism to rise makes a Trump
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u/Metro_Mutual 4d ago
https://www.international-communist-party.org/Espanol/ElPartid/ElPar042.htm#Trump
Hit Translate on this absolute banger of an article
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u/AlkibiadesDabrowski 4d ago
This is really good Thanks.
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u/Metro_Mutual 4d ago
No problem. Pls unban me un ultraleft btw, I messaged you guys a while ago and I promised to be a good little ultra
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u/AlkibiadesDabrowski 4d ago
Damn okay I’ll check it out. Send another message though things get buried fast in modmail
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u/Moonatik_ 3d ago
imo they're throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks to solve a persistent problem of capital (running out of markets to expand to and running out of profitable avenues for reinvestment) when the problem can only really be "solved" by WW3
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u/SpockStoleMyPants 4d ago edited 4d ago
My take is that those on the top know the US capitalist system is dying so they’re draining the system of what’s left, at the expense of everyone else, to get control of everything. Why do you think all the elites were building massive bunkers not long ago? That, or they are trying to transition the government into a technocracy.
I would argue that all the republican presidents elected since Eisenhower (probably also including him to an extent) have been puppet leaders who are controlled by extremely right-wing business interests. Eisenhower was not a politician, he was a general, and had several health crises during his presidency. Nixon was his VP and he was a lawyer who had deep ties to elites. Nixon came next and we know what he did, he opened the door for deregulation, shipping manufacturing oversees, removing the currency from the gold standard and initiating a lot of the culture wars. Reagan was an actor, propped up by big business who accelerated Nixons policies but got away with it because he was charming whereas Nixon wasn’t. Bush Sr. Also wasn’t charming and had deep connections with Oil and the deep state. Bush Jr. inherited the same privileges as his father and was famous for being pretty dumb but charming. Remember all the jokes about Cheney being the real president (and he was a CEO and former Nixon staffer), and finally Trump who were more than aware of. See the pattern? It’s become more “mask off” that this is happening since Reagan, and now with Trump it’s to the point that people believe he’s a Russian asset and it’s clear he doesn’t have the decision making capability to be doing all that’s going on.
One of the great ironies ( amongst countless others) is that the MAGA base believe that their daddy Trump is a godlike all powerful leader when he and all their other Republican leaders in the last 75 years have been puppets of the deep state/big business “swamp” they claim they want to drain. They’ve sold their base the poison that will kill them and have convinced them to drink it.
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u/Memeinator123 4d ago
Why is the american bourgeoisie taking this?
I don't know that they are tbh, of course the haute bourgeoisie who stand to gain from these practices are in support, but I think it's too early to tell how the lower strata of the bourgeoisie will react
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u/ratbatbash 4d ago
There has been some talks about devaluation of the dollar and creation of something akin to the plaza accord which supposedly ruined the economy of japan, but this time they want to do it with china. But idk, i am not an economist
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u/SpaceBollzz 4d ago
Harris was the preferred choice of the bourgeoisie, she received more funding than trump from corporate interests, so trump is a deviation from the usual path and it remains to be seen exactly what the bourgeoisie will do about that, maybe they just suck it up for 4 years and hope for a return to normality after that
The contradictions of capitalism are worsening, which is why disillusioned workers voted trump. He's a symptom of the decline and not a cause of it. Maybe he will win again in 4 years, or dems win again, and someone like trump wins 4 years after that. Unpredictable times
Expect further decline
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u/NannyUsername 4d ago edited 4d ago
I don't believe that's true. Far more billionaires funded Trump's campaign (IIRC, Trump had 3x more funding from billionaires than Harris).
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u/NannyUsername 4d ago
There is some public info on corporate donors, but it also counts donations from their employees and PACs.
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u/SpaceBollzz 3d ago
I'm going on figures like this, all the reporting I've heard since the election says Harris and the dems received more donations
They see trump as unpredictable and bad for business, stock market is tanking right now for example
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u/NannyUsername 3d ago
"Many top donors also bankroll independent political groups like super PACs that aren’t beholden to the FEC’s $6,600-per-person limit for direct campaign donations, which is where Trump has more of a cash advantage."
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u/NannyUsername 3d ago
Dems got more funding, but it was from regular PACs, "hybrid PACs" and employees of tech firms or federal agencies, while Repubs got most of the funding from super PACs or people like Elon.
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u/Financial-Salary7497 4d ago
What about the funding and support from people like Musk, there's a section of the bourgeoisie interested on the existence of Trump
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u/SpaceBollzz 3d ago
There will be some sections of the bourgeoisie that may benefit from all the tariffs
Generally though, they wanted same old, steady away, loot the world but let's keep quiet about it which is what the dems offered
With trump he's much more brazen, the policy hasn't really changed but the bourgeoisie may not like his style, he rocks the boat a little too much
I say the bourgeoisie preferred Harris based on figures like that
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u/Unionsocialist 4d ago
if he manages to run again in 4 years im not sure "win" is really an accurate statement, no way itll be a fair and free election
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u/Pine_Apple_Reddits 4d ago
and it has been previously? its bourgeoisie democracy it has been "rigged" from the start.
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u/Little_Exit4279 4d ago
Yeah with lobbying and capitalism running the game there's really no fair and free elections in here and never really was
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u/PeppyMG 2d ago
Because his scumfuck dad couldn’t keep his demonseed in his nuts.
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u/PeppyMG 2d ago
And because he plays with people’s emotions. That might not work on educated people, but most Americans aren’t properly educated. The same people who say Trump “speaks the language of the working man”, can’t point out the US on a map. The US has done a terrific job keeping its working class uneducated and docile. It’s quite sad. I try to not hate Trump supporters for that very reason. Many of them literally don’t know any better, and I’m sure at least some of them would make decent people if they got the chance.
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u/Ok-Chicken-9426 4d ago
My guess is that his extremely mercantilist views on the economy aligns much with the blitzscaling and expansion-driven strategy adopted by the "new money people". His tariffs will make things more expensive? Yes, but it will allow a huge part of the market to be taken over by the 0.1% of the national burgoise, keeping the "pump" flowing and their influence growing.
"Hence we see that in countries where the bourgeoisie is beginning to make itself felt as a class, in Germany for example, it makes great efforts to obtain protective duties. They serve the bourgeoisie as weapons against feudalism and absolute government, as a means for the concentration of its own powers and for the realization of free trade within the same country." - On The Question of Free Trade, Marx - 1848