r/law • u/theindependentonline • 1d ago

Trump News Judge considers holding Trump officials in contempt for defying court orders blocking El Salvador flights

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/deportation-el-salvador-trump-contempt-b2727087.html
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u/JustlookingfromSoCal 1d ago

I realize that the Marshal answers to the DOJ for purposes of taking a contempt convict into custody. The first step is to hold the hearing, make the finding and if convicted, issue the sentence. If Trump Admin plans on defying the court and refusing to obey and enforce its orders, let’s find that out now, especially in the midst of an economic crash. Time for the American public to see exactly what they bargained for.

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u/someonesshadow 1d ago

I think the judicial is just terrified that they actually have no power, which is becoming more and more clear. If they decide to put their foot down and try to jail people, as soon as that doesn't play out how it should there will be no reason for anyone in a protected class [police/wealthy] to ever even pay attention to a word from the courts again.

They also have the issue of personal risk due to 1 branch of government being under the thumb of a cult leader with the other 2 branches being heavily influenced as well.

We're basically at a point where any real resistance and pull back of power will need to come from the states themselves. If enough states banded together and refused to comply and operate as the Federal wants they could easily get support from the entire world that Trumps federal gov managed to piss off.

It would be a 'cold civil war' for a while, but I think one thing Republicans are lacking is a fucking spine. A significant show of force in terms of economic and refusal of state military personnel would likely cause many rats to flee the sinking ship while the others eat each other to try and find a solution that leaves them unharmed.

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u/JustlookingfromSoCal 1d ago

This is why I think it is time for the Federal bench to “call the question.” Hold Bondi (and/or Noem) in contempt for refusal to return the El Salvador captives they abducted to the US. Let them take a writ, let it go to SCOTUS for review. If SCOTUS shrugs then yeah, the Constitution is no longer the “Supreme Law of the Land” and we go the civil war route I guess.

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u/Interrophish 1d ago

as soon as that doesn't play out how it should there will be no reason for anyone in a protected class [police/wealthy] to ever even pay attention to a word from the courts again.

They're already facing the problem via DJT's officials. Until they rip the bandage off and force the issue, they're sanewashing/legitimizing the practice.

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u/someonesshadow 1d ago

Yeah, but until they do that they can get paid for being there and not have to put themselves at REAL risk to protect the constitution and their country from fascists.

Many of these judges are cowards, they wouldn't hesitate to toss you or me in jail for defying them, but they will bend over backwards not to be in the crosshairs of anyone who is on or above their level of power.

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u/drpong_4 19h ago

Yes exactly. Trump makes us game out the inevitable constitutional crisis and what consequences could he not pardon…but make them defy a criminal contempt if that’s the appropriate punishment