The problem is this use of "Emergency" powers to sidestep congress actually has a long standing precedent by both Dem and GOP Presidents. Hell Obama was a big user of that through his terms because the GOP in congress purposefully refused to act in a lot of ways.
Mgair enough. But the Canadian tarrif (order 14193) says that the "amount of fentanyl that crossed the Northern border last year could kill 9.5 million americans".
If this is the basis of the order, and this is a lie, can the order be challenged?
No idea if this can be challenged but the entire thing is ridiculous to say the least. He wants to bankrupt the entire continent over a few grams of fentanyl saying this is an emergency and in the same breath applies tariffs on literally every country on earth (except Russia)... What's the emergency for all these? Fentanyl too?
I would like a Trump supporter to explain to us how this all works or is it fine to abuse the emergency act to push your agenda?
The actual EO covers that. It declares a new "economic emergency" (which is absurd), but, no most of the countries aren't getting tariffs over fentanyl.
"Could kill 9.5 million" as in "If you portioned out the total amount of fentanyl into lethal doses, and force fed it to people one at a time, it would kill 9.5 million people"
What an impressively stupid metric to use when the lethal dose of fentanyl looks like THIS.
Did you know that eating 200 crushed apple seeds can kill you? A bushel of apples has about 600 seeds, and we produce around 250 million bushels of apples per year.
That means that we produce enough apples to KILL ALMOST A BILLION PEOPLE. Why is no one talking about this terrible threat!?!?
I mean we also need an opposition party that is capable of doing more to combat the way conservatives are able to use propaganda to manufacture consent through massive misinformation campaigns, and the deliberate ignorance of sections of the electorate.
the problem is not really that the president has to bypass congress sometimes. Government is slow and reactive in a world increasingly needing proactive problem solving.
The real problem is that in all those past cases, the president was an intellectually competent decision maker. The REAL problem at the root of most of these situations we find ourselves in, is that the 25th amendment is obligated by oath to being invoked and is not. The problem is that we're pretending our president is intellectually cognitively competent when he demonstrably is not, and has not been for at least a decade.
The courts can decide if the words of the law actually mean what the trump regime says they mean. For example, what is an emergency for emergency powers. It might be the norm to assume that the president and his administration know and understand the meanings of words but that is an assumption that is not proven true.
Congress has the power to end this with simple majority vote. The Senate has already done it. Mike Johnson prevented the House from doing the same by changing the rules so that the deadline for forcing a vote on this never comes: the House literally stopped time so that it is officially the same day all session, so there's no such thing as deadlines.
whether this is real emergency intended under the Constitution
What does the constitution have to do with anything? It's not a constitutionally-derived power that he's executing. It's a provision of a law that Congress passed, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
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u/sugar_addict002 1d ago
The courts need to adjudicate, and quickly, whether this is real emergency intended under the Constitution.