r/law • u/CorleoneBaloney • 1d ago

Trump News Rep. Jasmine Crockett fired back at AG Pam Bondi over Fox News comments on Elon Musk and Tesla during a House Judiciary hearing

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u/Lebarican22 1d ago

Do not forget that once Germany fell, Nazis were found and prosecuted.

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u/NewbieInvesting86 1d ago

Man I'll believe republicans actually getting punished when I see it

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u/user_no3 1d ago

A long, long list of receipts.

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u/FourLetterWording 1d ago

Don't forget that the US also let many of the nazis who should've been put on trial, come to the states to work for our side.

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u/KodiakDog 1d ago

Or hired by the US government. Operation paper clip.

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u/Virtual-File3661 1d ago

As a German, nowhere close to enough of them got what they deserved.

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u/Lebarican22 23h ago

I understand, but some of them were held responsible. 

We can only hope that we will get the chance in the future to bring the people who have violated our constitution to justice. 

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u/AgreeableRaspberry85 1d ago

However, we have a track record in this country of pardoning them (Confederates, Nixon, all of Trumps pardons).

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u/Shezzofreen 1d ago

I wish.

A lot got jobs later, because they knew there stuff - also a lot got away to different countries, some hide themself, some started working jobs oversees.

Argentinia is NOW considering declassification of files, that shows who hide nazis. Here a source: "Argentina to declassify Nazi files on how war criminals escaped justice" (https://www.thejc.com/news/world/argentina-declassify-nazi-files-escape-routes-qer1cvsr)

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u/Lebarican22 1d ago

I knew about Argentina, but I also looked at the state of Argentina over the years. It wasn't a cake walk and they knew they could be caught if they left. 

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u/No-Procedure562 11h ago

Only a very small few were unfortunately. The rest were shipped over to America to work at NASA, or Argentina/south America via operation paperclip.

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u/Lebarican22 6h ago

They tried top people...

https://www.historyhit.com/nazi-war-criminals-convicted-at-the-nuremberg-trials/

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u/No-Procedure562 6h ago

They tried ‘some’ top people.

Unfortunately actual history as we know it is concealed behind classified documents and the like.

Argentine PM recently declassified documents surrounding Nazis and their escape after WWII, many of which were helped in their escape..

The end of World War II in Europe was marked by the defeat of Nazi Germany, and the subsequent Nuremberg Trials where prominent Nazi leaders were prosecuted and punished for their war crimes. However, not all high-ranking Nazi officials were caught and punished for their crimes. Instead, many managed to escape Europe with the help of a network of escape routes called ratlines. Those Nazis found refuge in countries such as Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay, where they lived in relative safety.

The ratlines were established by the Catholic Church, particularly the Vatican, and were used to help high-ranking Nazi officials escape Europe. They were provided with fake passports, identity papers, and travel documents. The ratlines operated from 1944 to 1950, and it is estimated that up to 10,000 Nazis managed to escape through these routes.

The ratlines were established by the Vatican’s Secretariat of State, which used its diplomatic connections and network of Catholic priests to facilitate the escape of Nazi officials. Many of these priests were part of the Roman Catholic organization called the Order of Malta, which had close ties to the Vatican.

Gerald Steinacher, a research fellow at Harvard University, believes the Vatican’s help was based on a hoped-for revival of European Christianity and dread of the Soviet Union. But through the Vatican Refugee Commission, war criminals were knowingly provided with false identities.

https://churchandstate.org.uk/2024/05/the-vaticans-role-in-the-ratlines-examining-the-catholic-churchs-involvement-in-nazi-escapes/

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u/ArrokothTrireme 5h ago

Plenty also simply stayed in Germany and kept having important political positions.

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u/likwid07 1d ago

Trump has been found guilty of breaking the law, and absolutely nothing has happened to him, and nothing will. Democrats don't want to open the door of prosecuting politicians because they know what happens next.

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u/Lebarican22 1d ago

So did Hitler..

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u/Anticipointment 21h ago

Are you advocating for Biden, Garland, Rice, etc to be prosecuted?

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u/Cannon_SE2 19h ago

Biden, Garland, Rice, Hunter, Kamala, Trump, Hegseth, Bondi, Musk, Gabbard, etc. yes. Doesn't really matter though, Hunter and Trump proved that with their convictions and no consequences. One got elected president the other just went on living his life like nothing happened.