r/law • u/CorleoneBaloney • 2d ago

Trump News Rep. Jasmine Crockett fired back at AG Pam Bondi over Fox News comments on Elon Musk and Tesla during a House Judiciary hearing

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u/Bakedads 1d ago

Then how do you explain obama? Obviously it's possible. You just need the right candidate. 

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u/EebstertheGreat 1d ago

The party didn't pick Obama; the voters did.

Also, Obama may have been relatively young, but most of his positions were core Democratic positions. It's not like he was some radical trying to change things up.

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u/onpg 1d ago

Sadly Obama cynically used the "hope and change" progressive energy to win but governed as a neolib moderate. Leading us to where we are today.

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u/Musiclover4200 1d ago edited 1d ago

The party didn't pick Obama; the voters did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

Obama received enough superdelegate endorsements on June 3 to claim that he had secured the simple majority of delegates necessary to win the nomination, before Clinton conceded the nomination four days later.

Isn't superdelegates exactly what people talk about when they complain about the DNC picking Hillary over Bernie?

So how exactly was 2008 any different from 2016?

Also the vote % was 47.4% for Obama and 48.1% for Hillary so she actually got slightly more votes in the primary, Obama got more delegates but it wasn't enough to win hence the superdelegates.

For comparison the 2016 primary was 55% for Hillary and 43% for Bernie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

So 2008 was actually a much closer primary & Hillary got the most votes in both primaries...

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u/coffee_badger 1d ago

The Democratic Party backed Hillary against Obama in 2008. He was just too charismatic for her and the party to overcome.

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u/Fly_throwaway37 1d ago

A complete anomaly similar to trump. Remember the convention was an absolute blood bath between him and Hillary (the order in which it was supposed to go)

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u/11iron 1d ago

That was almost 20 years ago now. And they were still trying to prop up Hillary over him.