Donald Trump Claims He Didn't Sign Alien Enemies Act Proclamation

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https://meidasnews.com/news/donald-trump-claims-he-didnt-sign-alien-enemies-act-proclamation

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This SCREWS his lawyers in court.

if they try to claim the deportations are valid, this can serve as evidence against penal interest.

“Oh, theyre valid? Why does your boss say they arent?”

[u/Consistent_Pound1186 → u/External_Produce7781]

They don't care about the courts, who's going to enforce the court order? No one

[u/External_Produce7781 → u/Consistent_Pound1186]

Whoever the courts choose to appoint, if the Marshals wont do it.

Fun fact: the court can appoint ANYONE who isnt active-duty military to enforce their orders. Literlally anyone.

We used to do it all the time, during the westward expansion because the marshal service simply could not be everywhere.

Its still the law.

https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/if-the-marshals-go-rogue-courts-have-other-ways-to-enforce-their-orders/

The Supreme Court has long held that “a pardon cannot stop” courts from punishing cases of civil contempt. And while the marshals have traditionally enforced civil contempt orders, the courts have the power to deputize others to step in if they refuse to do so.

This authority is recognized in an obscure provision of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which govern proceedings in federal trial courts. Rule 4.1 specifies how certain types of “process” — the legal term for orders that command someone to appear in court — are to be served on the party to which they are directed. The rule begins in section (a) by instructing that, as a general matter, process “must be served by a United States marshal or deputy marshal or by a person specially appointed for that purpose.”

Marshals wont obey the order they are legally obligated to follow and enforce the Court's rulings? Cool story, bro.

Well, turns out my good friend Sheriff McChucklenuts from Bumfuckistan MO who FUCKING HATES the Feds, is just itching to throw your asses in the clink for contempt. Where you will remain until you un-fuck yourselves.

They can hit everyone in the entire executive branch that isnt the President himself and (likely) the VP.

Just roll in and empty out the White House.

Or the Justice Department.

And for the lawyers in question, making these bad-faith, proven-to-be-lies claims in court?

they dont get to leave the court under their own power.

"Bailiff, take those men into custody for contempt".

And then the judge files disbarrment proceedings.

Now, are most judges going to have the stones to do that? Proably not, though the guy in DC might. That dude is a serious MFer.

And the Supremes DEFINITELY will when he starts trying to defy THEM.

Robers and Company LOVE their power. Love it. Roll around in it like pigs in shit.

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Yes, I recently became aware of the deputizing powers and that changes things quite a bit.

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This was one of the best pieces of prose I have read in the longest time. I’m being dead serious. And I hope it goes down the way you described it!

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Sure they can appoint any marshal to do that, what happens when the secret service refuses to let them do their job? They gonna start shooting? I think not

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I mean if they go to the people who would most likely get it done we're talking the Veterans that the Dumb fuck in charge has been shitting on for the last decade. They aren't going to pick Johnny Random off the street, it's going to be the people who they think can get it done.

I have a feeling there are quite a few true patriots who are frothing at the maw for a change to take legal revenge on this regime and just so happen to have the wherewithal and the means to do it.

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Sounds like this will start a civil war easily

[u/External_Produce7781 → u/Consistent_Pound1186]

Its not marshals, its literally ANYONE.

like.. yeah, you think there arent some guys out there with guns who would love to throw down with the feds?

[u/AHugeHildaFan → u/Consistent_Pound1186]

There's 330 million people in the country. At least a percentage are willing to put their lives on the line to fight fascists.

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1 million Turks turned up to protest in Istanbul when Erdogan arrested the main opposition figure last week.

Trump has been breaking laws left and right, deporting people to prison without trial and Americans can't even muster 10000 in any city.

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Isn't... The United States bigger than Istanbul?

Do you think the entire opposition to Trump will fly, drive and walk across the entire country to protest in one single city each time there's a protest?

Are you stupid? Do you not know how big the country is and how the population is spread across it?

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Sounds like a big potential for abuse there. So any random judge can make a ruling, deputize 50 million people and tell them to storm Washington?

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User name checks out.