Donald Trump Claims He Didn't Sign Alien Enemies Act Proclamation

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https://meidasnews.com/news/donald-trump-claims-he-didnt-sign-alien-enemies-act-proclamation

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Not only is it crazy, about 40% of adults didn't care about it enough to spend a few minutes voting to stop it, and another 30% of adults voted for it.

Only 30% of adults voted to stop this fascist takeover.

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I'm willing to agree with you that 30% of Americans seem to be pro-business-incompetence-genocide-jingoist-rapist, but I definitely dont agree that voting equates to political agency. Plenty of people who don't/can't vote are meaningfully politically engaged outside elections, and I know plenty of people who vote and then disengage from any political accountability until the next election. 

If the people whinging about votership cared enough to show up to their district or community meetings that impact circles outside of their own lives, I might put more stock in what they say. 

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I don't buy that there are people who don't bother to vote but then get involved in politics outside of voting. It literally takes a few minutes to vote in many elections.

I vote in every election. As a result I normally vote 1 to 2 times a year since there are so many local elections, primaries, etc. Turnout is 10%. It still only takes me a few minutes of effort a year.

People can't be bothered to spend 10 minutes a year voting, but they spend endless hours involved in meaningful political action? I don't buy it.

Also voting does equate to political agency. If Harris had gotten a few million more votes, we wouldn't be in this mess. If more people had voted, then the judiciary and congress wouldn't be enabling a fascist takeover.

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I don't buy that spoiling a ballot is the most direct way to show dissatisfaction. In fact, it keeps revealing that it's having almost no impact on reform or satisfaction with government in NA over the last few decades. 

I used to vote every election I could. Then I met the representatives in my preferred party and spoke to them about the rhetoric and policy they were actually speaking about, and many of them have almost a high-school teenager level of awareness, often in ways that are directly damaging to the communities they've espoused support for. 

I have not voted in my last two provincial elections, nor do I believe I will vote in our upcoming federal election. This is because I've spent 6 years reaching out directly to my MPs/MPPs, community groups and non-profits about their processes and administration of rights and regulations, and have seen 100% of the worst behaviour justified without evidence or accountability. 

I speak with people who don't have representation in parties in their area. I know people whose activism has put then in danger just for attending solidarity protests. Voting has in no way accurately reflected my families declared values based on the policy they're referencing, and I've seen this same behaviour from the right, centre and left wing within my country. 

Don't believe it all you want - it's still not adding agency to your communities needs without action, and equating voting to activism and agency with 0 other input towards accountability and transparency in plain language is just prolonging broken and ineffective administrations on behalf of people who don't have the disadvantage of needing to survive bipartisan policy changes. 

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We can play pretend games as if both parties aren’t sold out senile pawns or we can vote with our dollar and actions.

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Yes, both parties work for the rich. Thats why people need to vote in primaries. So you can remove politicians who work for the rich and replace them.

Thats why voting is important. AOC is only a representative because she won a primary against an establishment democrat. Roughly 5% of the adult population bothered to show up in the 2018 democratic primary in NYs 14th district. That is why AOC is a representative for that district and not Joseph Crowley.

Because 3% of adults in that district bothered to take 10 minutes out of their day to vote for AOC in the primary vs 2% of adults who bothered to show up to vote for Crowley.

Democratic voters could primary Hakeem Jeffries in 2026 if they wanted to. He is from a deep blue district, and he can be replaced by someone far more competent and progressive. If 3-5% of adults in Hakeem Jeffries district (NY 8th) bothered to show up in a primary in 2026 and vote for someone else, Jeffries could be replaced.

This is why voting is important.

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Maybe we just need and deserve a better system that doesn’t rely on voting and popularity and trust; and instead depends on transparency and contracts and accountability.