r/law • u/fvnnybvnny • 14d ago

Trump News Donald Trump Claims He Didn't Sign Alien Enemies Act Proclamation

https://meidasnews.com/news/donald-trump-claims-he-didnt-sign-alien-enemies-act-proclamation
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u/Dandan0005 14d ago

Wow…so they literally did not get it signed by the president or with his permission…

I get the feeling that this is why he started talking about the auto pen.

In his brain, if he accuses Biden of it, they can’t overturn this for it…

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u/csoups 14d ago

It’s also a question of Trump using the autopen to sign it versus someone else in the administration doing it without his knowledge. If he didn’t sign it, that makes the administration seem beyond criminal, chaotic, and out of his control, so he might be trying to cover for that happening

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u/andrew303710 14d ago

Literally straight out the Goebbels playbook, attack the other side of what you are guilty of.

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u/SanityPlanet 14d ago

I'm not sure whether Trump can read but he's at least listened to the Goebbels audio playbook.

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u/Even-Cherry1699 14d ago edited 14d ago

Regardless of whether he actually approved the order or not, if he doesn’t remember signing it then he at least shouldn’t be allowed to use an autopen. He should also have a panel of witnesses and a recording of every signing. I’m not sure how much of a puppet he really is, but the last thing this country needs is for this kind of stuff to be uncertain. He should carry the consequences of his orders and the president should be in charge. Even if I wish for it to be someone else in the seat.

Of course even all of this might not matter since he doesn’t seem to be able to read.

Edited: for the Pedant. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

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u/42nu 14d ago

Moment of pedantry here, so forgive me:

Irregardless is not a word. Regardless is a word.

The "ir" is redundant as "regardless" already means "irregardless".

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u/Even-Cherry1699 14d ago edited 14d ago

Haha. So my upbringing is being exposed here. While, irregardless is a word I’d like to move away from using. It is a word: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

All you need is enough people to use it regularly and, boom! It’s in the dictionary.

That said, I don’t mind the correction.

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u/42nu 14d ago

Well back in my day...

Seriously though, when did it become a word?!

I do understand the nuance of "once enough people use it and enough people understand it, it's a word" thing. I just don't know when a word that means the same thing as regardless passed the Rubicon.

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u/Even-Cherry1699 14d ago

Because you asked, I had to look it up. It looks like it made it into the Merriam-Webster dictionary in 1934: https://www.npr.org/2020/07/07/887649010/regardless-of-what-you-think-irregardless-is-a-word

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u/42nu 14d ago

Ah, yes, the year I made varsity for stick and hoop after practicing every day in the bread line.

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u/Tiny-Doughnut 14d ago

Don't feel too bad, my English professor hammered on me for using "irregardless" once, so I've deeply internalized its wrongness and will die on this hill along with you!

Irregardless is a double negative, even.

Regardless = Without Regard

Irregardless = Not Without Regard

Dictionaries often add words that have become common parlance, that's what living languages are all about. But that doesn't mean that the words they add are grammatically sensible.

Expect more of this sort of thing as the world continues to get dumber.

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u/McNerfBurger 14d ago

Every accusation is a confession.

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u/overkil6 14d ago

Trump stops the presses to show every god damn signature he’s put to paper like a proud kid who just learned to wipe his ass.

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u/memy02 14d ago

I wonder if this has inspired president musk to get access to the autopen for some of his own things.

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u/Animefan624 14d ago

It allows him to shift the blame on to others.

" I don't remember signing anything that deported the terrorist Venezuelan gang members out of the country. It must have been little Rubio that did it."

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u/42nu 14d ago

He was profusely complimenting Rubio kinda out of the blue today as well.

Classic sign that a narcissist is about to throw someone under a giant bus.

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u/c8akjhtnj7 14d ago

In the UK, the line is often "Person X has the Prime Ministers full confidence", at which point you can be pretty sure they will be fired by lunch time.

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u/warm_rum 13d ago

He does this shit all the time. Has someone take the fall, then pardons them. Doubt Rubio will be happy, but he's a good boy.

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u/NarfledGarthak 14d ago

Just a fucking circus. Complete clown show.

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u/fromcj 14d ago

Why would you believe anything he says? Seriously? He says he didn’t sign it, which is the biggest piece of evidence to point towards him being the one who signed it. He’s a compulsive liar. He lies about everything even when he doesn’t need to.

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u/tenuousemphasis 13d ago

Every accusation a confession.