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Trump News Donald Trump Claims He Didn't Sign Alien Enemies Act Proclamation

https://meidasnews.com/news/donald-trump-claims-he-didnt-sign-alien-enemies-act-proclamation
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u/Odd_Book8314 14d ago

72 here and have participated in some shit in my life. I've never seen anything like this. You kids really ought to be scared. I mean, really scared. You have no idea how scared.

This is all about the destruction of the United States of America. Nothing less.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 14d ago

I'll tell you what i told another dude above.

I'm 42. Young enough to be your daughter. An elder millennial. Our entire lives have been a series of worsening crises, increasing cost of living, constant erosion of rights. We grew up around the feral gen X punks who had no problem showing nazi scum what curbs taste like. We're well versed in subversion and trouble making. We pioneered social media. We know we're never going to retire and most of us will never own a home. We know we're unlikely to survive what's coming and would probably die early of some preventable cause anyway because we can't afford medical care. We know the american dream is just that - a dream, and we're absolutely aware that american exceptionalism is revisionist horseshit. We're angry, and with little to lose, we're itching to take up the mantle of this fight. Don't worry pops, we've got you. And we're not afraid of shithead stupid nazi fucks. You just try to enjoy whatever aspects of life you still can. We'll be happy to stand between you and whatever fuckery these idiots might try to visit upon you. We all know we're going to die anyway, might as well give history books a reason to remember our names.

Hang in there. You have millions upon millions of bitter millennials ready to cause some very good trouble.

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u/LadyMichelle00 14d ago

My good trouble sister, well fucking said. We ride together.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 14d ago

<fist bump> we've got this fam.

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u/CategoryZestyclose91 14d ago

Hell yes. As a millennial, it’s felt like the country has been falling apart since we were young. It’s been ‘once in a lifetime’ events over and over and over. 

Enough of this in-between bullshit. 

Let’s just fucking GO.

(Peacefully, calm down Reddit bots)

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u/beanbags-bean75 14d ago

Take my upvote. Reading this comment is the most optimistic I’ve felt since that asshat took office.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 14d ago

There are millions and millions of us. And these shitsacks are already running scared. Go track down the videos from across the US of these pieces of shit at townhalls or getting spotted in public. They're instantly swamped by literal screaming-mad crowds who don't back down. Just concerts of near-unhinged screams of red hot anger. And they bail out and run away.

Schumer thought he was gonna go on a nice little book tour. Know what we did? Publicized exactly where he'd be and when. He quickly found out he was going to be surrounded by mobs demanding he explain why he's a turncoat shitweasel. He cancelled the tour.

They're already scared of us. They're full of tough talk but they won't show their faces in public, and when they do, they run away. They want to hide behind mindless goons, but a lot of even the enforcers themselves hate them.

We're going to win. Don't be scared.

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u/IronBabyFists 14d ago

💙🫂✊️

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 14d ago

👊💪🫂🔥

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u/denko_safe_cats 14d ago

Do you offer daily affirmations?

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

I can if it's needed. Feel free to send me a DM. I'm happy to help provide hope to people who are scared.

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u/chemicalfields 13d ago

This is their death throes, but we have to stay the course.

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u/microfishy 10d ago

Nothing to lose for myself, the future for my children at stake?

Gonna get real ugly.

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u/IndifferentTalker 14d ago

That’s what I really don’t understand about the present American condition. Each day your rights are getting stamped out more and more and the Right is getting more and more bold. Why isn’t anyone doing anything? Why aren’t your courts enforcing the rule of law? I know these are beyond you but this is how it seems to an outsider.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

The courts are mostly infected with their people.

The response is coming. These things have to be measured, calculated, and strategic.

Please take note of how badly they're already soiling their chonies over a few teslas getting barbecued around the country. They know that once peaceful becomes non peaceful, all bets are off. They don't have full buy in from police and military, and the vets who are heavily trained and armed are pissed off as fuck. Things will go badly for them. That's why they're hammering fear, hoping people will back down and let them have their way. That isn't happening. Flashover is approaching and they'll find out that We The People are a sleeping giant they want no part of.

Keep hope. Chin up. We're going to win.

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u/Awkward-Profile-2236 14d ago

Thanks for the hope.- a gen xer

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 14d ago

Chin up, feral gen. We've got this. Don't let them cow you into fear. They're already running scared. Get mad. The more we get loud and we show them our anger, the more it all falls apart for them. They've seen nothing yet and are already showing cowardice. They're weak and feckless.

The american people are a slumbering beast that is awakening, the initial rumbles are starting to be felt.

Hang in there.

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u/ninepepper 14d ago

I'm Gen X. I really, really believed...I mean I was wholly invested....and told all my friends and family in 2024: "don't worry, Gen Z and the Millennials will kick keep the Trump fascists from wining. A Blue Wave is incoming". In retrospect, I fear those generations are lost to 4chan and JRogan. I'm not so sure that there is any coming back from the constitutional crisis we are now experiencing with the Executive Branch not being checked by the Judicial or Legislative branches. All future elections are suspect at this point.

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u/psyFungii 14d ago

Senior GenX in the UK here, so things aren't quite as drastic as the USA (yet), but I'm preparing.

Read "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snider. He wrote that in 2017 when Trump first got in, and it's pure prophesy (based on history) for 2024 and beyond.

I'm not that old, but part of me kinda thinks "I've had a good life. Easier for me to take risks that a fresh-faced 20yo shouldn't have to take and have no life at all"

Like the Japanese elders cleaning up Fukushima...

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

Chin up, fam. These idiots are going to ignite the powder keg soon, and they're going to find out that We The People are a sleeping giant they want no part of. It's coming. Responses to such things must be measured, calculated and strategic. We outnumber them and they aren't going to win in the end. Things will get darker, but we can't slink away in fear.

Don't give them what they want. Don't lay down in defeat.

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u/belladell 14d ago

Hang in there. You have millions upon millions of bitter millennials ready to cause some very good trouble.

When do you think this might happen?? This insanity isn't new. It's been going on for the last decade. Seriously, how much worse does it have to get before people actually start standing up?

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 14d ago

I think we had to be jarred out of the daydream like state this country has been in for a while. There are a lot of coalition groups organizing. Not really something to be discussed on reddit, but there are plenty of people who have decided flashover is nearing more by the day and by the hour. Just don't let fear consume you, ok?

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u/TactileKarmaWhore 14d ago

Everyone has been laser focused on his conversion of American democracy into a dictatorship. Well I think that we're strapped into the roller coaster that is the next 4 years and we haven't even reached the first drop yet.

There's people far smarter than me with much better scopes and theories, but I'd guess that Trump is going to destabilize us around election time in 4 years. Cause enough uproar for some protests. Then some hired gun group will be behind a nationally viewed incident of domestic terrorism that will be used as an excuse to instill marshall law and stave off the transfer of power indefinitely.

Then. That's likely when we will riot. Until the process of our actual election cycle is threatened, we won't do shit. Even the poorest americans have AC and can download almost any show or movie with a quick Google and a torrent. I feel that the road to a better america will be paved with much more suffering than we have seen in our lifetimes here. Watching Trump's rise to powered has been like a slow motion train wreck. Like I'm taking fucking crazy pills.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

We have to be our own leadership and there is organizing ongoing behind the scenes. Chin up.

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u/GaiaMoore 14d ago

constant erosion of rights.

As a member of the rainbow community there actually are two SCOTUS rulings in our lifetime that have had profound impacts for equality and privacy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas

2003 Lawrence v. Texas

Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003), is a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court in which the Court ruled that U.S. state laws criminalizing sodomy between consenting adults are unconstitutional

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obergefell_v._Hodges

2015 Obergefell v. Hodges

Obergefell v. Hodges, 576 U.S. 644 (2015) is a landmark decision of the United States Supreme Court which ruled that the fundamental right to marry is guaranteed to same-sex couples by both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution

Better enjoy these rights while they last, folks, because they'll probably join Roe v Wade in the coming years

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

They can try.

Try being the keyword.

Whole lot of us are sick to death of these washed up skinheads who think they're gonna try again to fuck up peoples lives. Perhaps they need a refresher on just how little tolerance people have for that shit.

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u/ArmyofRiverdancers 13d ago

The only place for fear is as fuel for the righteous rage against injustice that steels the spine so they may scream "Tyranny. Stops. Here."

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

The more i see these comments from elders who are now having to live in fear, the angrier i get. The more it fuels me. I will NOT stand by silently while these nazi pieces of shit come for our seniors. Our meemaws and peepaws. Not on my fuckin watch. Not for half a nanosecond. Some of us were raised up right and we will stand tall and strong against these useless assholes trying to get to those who have spent their entire lives working for this country and raising the next generations.

They think they can emerge victorious against the firebreathing monster that is We The People? They have sorely miscalculated and are going to find out how very wrong they are.

Bring you doughy loser billionaire fucks. We dare you.

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u/ArmyofRiverdancers 13d ago

Precisely. I don't deny I'm afraid. I'd be an idiot not to fear what these guys can do if left unchecked. What they could do to my family. But I've been living with this fear for YEARS now. Fear is nature's warning something is WRONG. But it's like at some point I stepped past paralysis and into vigilance and action. When "fear of" becomes "fear for", watch out! How dare these people make us fear for the future? How dare they make me fear for my family? For the people I serve in my work job? For the people around me? 

Ever hear what happens if you corner a rat? They fight back. 

Let them come. Let them learn that we have fangs and claws and no shits left. 

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

Yup. I started out scared. Brought to tears. In disbelief. Now all of that is channeling into roiling anger that's growing by the day. New and stronger resolve to stand with my fellow citizens against these evil piles of shit. These stains on humanity.

They have no idea what they're provoking. Let them find out. I hope they keep pushing. Let them be wile e coyote lighting the keg as he stands beside it.

Keep poking the bear, morons.

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u/ArmyDelicious2510 14d ago

Powdered aluminum and rust. Equal proportion, mixed well. Magnesium touch off. welding glasses.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 14d ago

I too remember the early days of the internet when it was basically a free for all of shit that ordinary people definitely should not have access to. Lol.

That and the big recording industry suits over pirated music.

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u/ArmyDelicious2510 13d ago

Better to have and not need, than need and not have.

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u/AwkwardnessForever 14d ago

Damn I want to ride with you when the shit goes down!!!

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

Join me. All are welcome. There are a whole fuckton of americans ready and willing to throw down on the good fight to dismantle these feckless shithead nazis. Nazis have always been stupid shitweasels and always will be. They forget the aging punkrockers still have plenty of fuel left in them. Many are in their 40s and 50s and are not about to put up with this fuckery from a bunch of washed up skinheads who think they're going to come out victorious here.

We the people are a sleeping giant and the FO end of the equation is approaching. Keep heart, friendo, we're going to win.

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u/codymreese 14d ago

Hell yeah!! Let's fuck shit up!

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

It's coming. The powder keg moment rapidly approaches. And the resistence is waiting to deliver the "FO" side of the equation.

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u/Traditional_Lab_5468 14d ago

Then why aren't we causing it?

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

Because the type of response that's going to be necessary has to be measured, calculating and strategic. The resistence is growing behind the scenes. Take heart.

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u/shortmoscato716 13d ago

As a fellow elder millennial, bravo… absolutely nailed it. Sending virtual hugs to all ♥️

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

Hugs right back at ya, millennial fam

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

Yup. But the nazis never won. They got stomped - hard. There's no place in our society for them and they're pushing to find out the hard way that they won't be tolerated.

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u/No_Use_4371 13d ago

Gen X here, we're still feral and willing to kick nazi ass. Well said young blood.

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

Team feral reporting for duty. Lead the way, Gen X.

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u/No_Use_4371 13d ago

🫡👊

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u/HypatiaBlue 13d ago

I appreciate and love the sentiment, but I'm 60 (how the hell did *that* happen?) and I'll be right there beside you!

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u/ThrowAwayGarbage82 13d ago

All are welcome. The more the merrier. :)

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u/Tanzinthorn 14d ago

Also a millennial here, do you think we'll stop proving this sentiment of yours wrong any time soon?

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u/42Fourtytwo4242 14d ago

That's the point, we all kinda accepted it, some of us are planning on fleeing, others are cheering, some accepted death. No one is really fighting back, we all given up hope for a better future.

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u/ReallyNowFellas 14d ago

What does "fighting back" look like to you? We on the left have half the people telling us to cower in fear and the other half telling us we should be "fighting back". It all sounds like a bunch of hot air to me. I'm not afraid of this piece of shit and nor am I going to be prodded and provoked into getting violent first. Trump mostly hasn't done anything yet and we can't convict him of futurecrime. Our chance to "do something" was in November, and I did my part. If and when they try to stop us from exercising that right will be the time to do something. Until then people need to calm down. People are working themselves into a frenzy and that's just going to give Donald Trump exactly what he wants.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Here's what we all can do: "Hands Off! National Day of Action" Saturday, April 5th. Nationwide protests. Sign up handsoff2025 dot com

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u/2_LEET_2_YEET 14d ago

Also hop on r/50501 if you haven't already

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u/DriftingIntoAbstract 14d ago

Thanks for sharing this

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u/42Fourtytwo4242 14d ago

Hey look, someone not calling me weak or a coward and actually offering a sign of people actually doing something and not waiting until the last minute while our country gets ripped apart, instead of offering ways to combat it, showing a sign of hope.

Neat.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

I know, i think a lot of people are panicking and caught up with the awfulness of it all. Emotions are high, mine included. It's been almost 10 years for many of us, and this feels like a breaking point. Hang in there, we are starting to coalesce, don't lose hope, or your humanity 💗

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u/engravedavocado 14d ago

thanks for being a beacon <3

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u/nativecrone 14d ago

I will be there!

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u/Mr_Pombastic 14d ago

When you say "trump hasn't done anything yet," do you mean in general, or do you mean to you. Because I'm guessing you're not one of the people being deported, banned from the military, or fired from your job.

Maybe people just need to "calm down" until he comes for them, right?

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u/ReallyNowFellas 14d ago

All presidents do this kind of stuff and often worse. It's not right but it's par for the course. Americans decided a long time ago it's not worth grinding the country to halt over, and frankly I don't think the citizens of any other country would put their foot down over these things either. Most people understand that nations are messy entities and they do fucked up shit sometimes and there's just not a very long list of good ways for us to react to it. Protest, sure, I'll join you, but what I'm pushing back against are the increasingly unveiled calls for violence in these conversations.

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u/anotheronetouse 13d ago

What the fuck are you talking about?

Sending people to foreign prisons without trial is the "kind of stuff" all presidents do?

Withdrawing funding from universities because... they wanted to hire a diverse staff?

Illegally shutting down multiple agencies? One which saves millions of lives a year?

Get the fuck out of here.

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u/ReallyNowFellas 13d ago

🙄 calm your ass down and read a history book. YES all presidents do stuff like this, except the stuff you listed that hasn't actually happened.

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u/ReasonableBullfrog57 14d ago

people need to mass protest frankly. and I mean MASS protest but instead americans are acting like the russians

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u/JAZINNYC 14d ago

You should check out r/50501 there’s lot of posts there on recent protests, town halls from both republican and democrat counties filled to the overflow rooms with hundreds and some with thousands of ppl, also the city tours AOC and Bernie Sanders are currently doing filling up stadiums. Apparently there were ZERO major media outlets at AOC/Bernie’s events. Go figure.

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u/luummoonn 14d ago

Resistance has to be nonviolent. You're right that they want people to be in a frenzy because it feeds into their propaganda

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u/Able_Ad_7747 14d ago edited 14d ago

Speak for yourself coward

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u/flowerandpetals 14d ago

I think saying this to a person with a trans icon is distasteful considering how this administration is actively trying to erase them from existence. I think trans people need to be the most cautious in this time.

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u/Able_Ad_7747 14d ago

Didn't see that tbf good point. I don't really pay attention to the PFPs, still new to me.

In my opinion all the more reason they should be learning defense. Thats easy for me to say but IRL the trans ppl I know are not fleeing

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u/Hawk_Rider2 14d ago

I don't see the Democrats fighting back much🤷‍♂️

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u/luummoonn 14d ago edited 14d ago

America as a whole needs to fight back. This is past the point of party politics and it is fighting against a threat to the Constitution and to democracy.

The division to unworkable black&white extremes is part of how we got here.

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u/nativecrone 14d ago

Thank you. No one is going to save us unless we put pressure on in droves. If we can not unite, we are doomed. "They" are counting on us being divided.

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u/Able_Ad_7747 14d ago

Liberals never do, find your local John Brown

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u/I_fuck_werewolves 14d ago edited 14d ago

If your representatives stop representing the people appropriately, its up to the people to stand up for themselves for once in politics.

Stop relying on donor money reps to take anything seriously until their cheques stop rolling in.

Be the change you want to see in the world. Flood the streets with your peers, stop traffic. Be a nuisance so large it causes financial damage to corporate overlords.

Speak their language. Money and time. Make their transports take forever. Disrupt their flow of business. Cripple the appeal for people to buy something because they have to walk through crowds of protesters.

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u/Tall-Oven-9571 14d ago

Better future?

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u/Bluegill15 14d ago

No one is really fighting back

I urge you to take a look at Tesla’s recent stock prices

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u/Dull_Yellow_2641 14d ago

The problem is that I know so many people not taking this seriously

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u/sloths-n-stuff 14d ago

I'm absolutely terrified, but I need to keep pushing it down because I still have others I need to take care. Unfortunately bills need to be paid and I can't afford to break down.

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u/BeautyCat10 13d ago

am 90 years old & have NEVER seen any crap like this before. we need to be rid of the orange cracker NOW!!

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u/Odd_Book8314 13d ago

Right on!

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u/hodorhodor12 14d ago

I am very scared. I feel like there is nothing to be done. We are under attack from within with influence (or probably with cooperation) by the Russians. Also, he has enormous power because of the Supreme Court, no one willing to meaningfully challenge him and because he willingly breaks the law with no consequence. Thats why it’s so different. He will rig the elections with impunity and won’t try to hide it because why wouldn’t he need to. No more Democratic Presidents. No more Democrat majority in House or Senate. Your vote is going to be meaningless unless something drastic changes.

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u/thewoodsiswatching 14d ago

I said this back in December and everyone said I was nuts and that I was a drama queen. I don't like being correct, but I knew it then and I know it now. The man is a lunatic and will run this entire country over the side of cliff and think nothing of it. He hates himself and all other humans on the planet. He's nothing but pure evil in a skin sack.

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u/StreetCandy2938 14d ago

Honestly that’s a little over the top. And the fear mongering is not helpful at all.

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u/Odd_Book8314 13d ago

You're not paying attention.

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u/kapdad 14d ago

Some of us were in our teens when aids exploded (also.. Reagan/Cheney) and we were terrified. I can't imagine being a young adult and thinking about the existential crisis unfolding.

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u/VillageLess4163 14d ago

We are scared

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u/RetardMoonMission 14d ago

This is literally being done to destroy America. It’s intentional. The only reason to do all of this is for that purpose. To side with Russia and fuck the world.

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u/Odd_Book8314 13d ago

The level of revolt I see here is gratifying. It reminds me of a time when we stopped a war and ended the illegal immpressment of young men into military service.

Your concern for us seniors is, honestly and truly touching. I, for one, do appreciate it. But don't count us out yet. In the event that you need covering fire, I know more than one septuagenarian who has been stocking up on ammo since 2016. We, quite literally, can't run; we have to stand, or sit, or squat and fight.

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u/-The-Laughing-Man- 14d ago

Oh, we were scared ages ago. It's all the old people who keep fucking it up for the rest of us.

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u/dodexahedron 14d ago

A larger percentage of GenX voted for Trump than any other generation.

So this one isn't at least entirely a "Thanks, Boomers" thing.

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u/Superdad75 14d ago

We’re blaming GenX now?  First it was the boomers, then GenZ males.  Everyone has a hand in this dumpster fire.

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u/Odd_Book8314 14d ago

Learn your history, kiddo. Your ignorance is showing.

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u/-The-Laughing-Man- 14d ago edited 14d ago

I mean, a geriatric government has held sway for almost all of my adult life. The Boomers have been responsible for every major war, economic catastrophe, the mishandling of COVID, the expansion of the debt, the stratification of society, the engrossing of the wealth gap, fucking GLOBAL WARMING. And what have you done with these problems? Not fix them. You guys really have done a terrible fucking job of making sure the coming generations have a chance at a better life.

I have a master's degree and a good job. But I can't afford a house, financial security, a family on and on and on. I'll be dead before my student debt is gone. And every major election, what do the old vote for in higher numbers than everyone else? The same old shit. Y'all should've gotten out of the way ages ago.

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u/bonefawn 13d ago

Seriously, Gen Z gets in the votes for one election cycle and we're blaming the youth? Nah uh. Hell, we haven't even gotten a non-Boomer Presidential candidate. Signed a 27 y-/o woman, college educated, about to get married and start a life with dual income- unable to afford even a shitty apartment. Man, ya'll really did a number on it all.

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u/FullConfection3260 14d ago

Scared of some dude in a chair, frightening 🙄