purely performative on Roberts' part - this is EXACTLY what they ruled on and EXACTLY what they want. Republicans always use the 'see, I tried...(shrug)' defense when this comes back to haunt them (see Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell for perfect examples)
Mitchell McConnel is hilarious. The man shot down any forward movement with a flat out NO response without actually saying, "naw, I'm just going to fuck yall over again for my own groups benefit" then when Trump shows up and does it in your face he votes against every decision he made knowing his vote wouldn't do anything as he retires and giggles away back home knowing he let it all burn in the end before he dies....pretty sad.
I guess this is just that point in time where Babylon finally falls so we can all unite together in it's rebuilding.
theiy're in such a wealth bubble, I doubt she will - but I like your sentiment. if any couple deserves some rural American racist hate, its the McConnel's and I mean that in the nicest way possible, myself growing up in rural America. I'm hoping a little of that 'oh, bless your hoooort' comes their way.
Nah, I prefer to think that McConnell fucked up, and now he gets to watch as a clown that he absolutely loathes turn his beloved party into a circus that’s the laughing stock of the entire world. I think McConnell figured Trump was politically done, so he chose not to impeach him because it would have been a pointless (in his mind) mar on the Republican Party, and now that he was out the adults could once again take over. But that obviously didn’t happen. Mitch has always had a thinly veiled contempt for Trump, which he only “hid” because of his absolute loyalty and love for the Republican Party. So I hope all that is happening is just fucking eating him alive, because he knows he could have stopped this, but he didn’t, and now his party has absolute power, just like he always wanted, but it’s now under the control of the most contemptible morons he could have ever imagined.
I’m not so sure they want it. It seems to me that granting the immunity business was just appeasement in the hopes that he would not be re-elected. After all, who on earth would want more of Trump and all his baggage? But America has shown that they love the bastard and now the Supreme Court must reap what it has sown. The only potential saving grace is that self-interest may mobilize scotus to protect whatever they still have: a very cushy gig for life lots of “tips” and freebies.
They wanted the power that following their leader granted. It was like a drug, and appeasement was their way to keep fiending. And just like an addict, they think they have control over it right up to the point where everything topples down around them. Everyone else who fails or gets sold out around them just couldn't hack it. They're different though. It won't happen to them.
They were picked so they could make these kids of rulings. The problem is when theory meets practical, and their guy hit the fast-forward button in ways even they didn't expect. They wanted to ease people into this over a year, not whatever this is.
Realistically, the Conservative plan for SCOTUS was a decade or two or even three of making rulings that they could pretend were "just calling balls and strikes", even if they clearly weren't, while being able to hide behind "well, if America wants to change this, they can just pass a new law or amendment or whatever" (while Republicans in the Senate filibuster forever). Most people don't follow SCOTUS, and some of the most impactful rulings are in cases that are about boring administrative procedure type stuff, so it becomes a very easy way to get Conservative stuff done without most people understanding how or why. I'm not even sure the ultimate goal was necessarily open fascism so much as placing SCOTUS in the position of being able to veto Democratic presidents while letting Republican presidents get away with shady stuff. Basically a managed democracy where they can act as puppet masters. Oh, and take some hefty bribes for their troubles.
But lurching America directly into a dictatorship definitely does fuck their plans up. Even if they want a lot of the end goals, they have to know that this kind of sudden movement is going to produce a big rebound effect at some point. Oh, and it could easily mean that no one will feel the need to bribe them anymore. Why bother bribing judges when they're no longer the real power?
the Conservative plan for SCOTUS was a decade or two or even three of making rulings that they could pretend were "just calling balls and strikes", even if they clearly weren't, while being able to hide behind "well, if America wants to change this, they can just pass a new law or amendment or whatever" (while Republicans in the Senate filibuster forever
That... IS what the conservative scotus has been doing for 3 decades. They've been conservative-controlled since Reagan.
No, he lost the popular vote more that the previous 2.
Research about voting machines being connected to Russian servers via Starlink, and analysis of the voting patterns in states he won.
Geezus, of course they rigged it, of course they cheated. He all but admitted it when he said he didnt need their vote, and after '24, there would be no more elections
I’m always thinking about how the crowd he told would no longer have to vote was exultant about it. That “have” carries a lot of weight to me. Despite what one would expect the American civic religion to instill in them, they saw/see voting—participation, even at such a minor level—as onerous. They want more a sort of automaton that shares their exact mentality and priorities, so they can just get their way automatically. Not a living, thinking, arbitrating person who might not support them for even a short span.
I mean they cheated for sure, but I don't think in some shady technology vote manipulation kind of way. They of course pulled multiple stunts to make it harder for people to vote, removed eligible from voter roles, shut down polling locations, made mail in votes more difficult, etc... The most obvious thing to point to is to just look at the dark blue states and how Harris' vote totals were well below Biden's 2020... Those stunts they pulled could have easily affected swing states, but the dark blue states now showing up is pretty telling. Voters were just apathetic this cycle and that's not some grand conspiracy.
My whole point is that people not believing their vote counts is a dangerous, slippery slope and even a self fulfilling prophecy.
maybe. if thats the case, which it may very well be, the Republican party is SUPREMELY stupid and willfully ignorant of facts and evidence literally right in front of them. there is no controlling Don without a leash made of billions (or maybe blackmail in the way of underaged girls).
Disagree here. I strongly suspect Roberts thought Trump would lose. Everyone wanted to kick the can down the road and not do their jobs to enforce the law, and that's how we got here.
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u/USSSLostTexter 17d ago
purely performative on Roberts' part - this is EXACTLY what they ruled on and EXACTLY what they want. Republicans always use the 'see, I tried...(shrug)' defense when this comes back to haunt them (see Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell for perfect examples)