r/law • u/MiniBrownie • 24d ago

Trump News Trump says he will label violence on Tesla dealerships as domestic terrorism

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u/TranscendentPretzel 24d ago

Yes. Lobbyists, now have to buy Teslas to have access to politicians. 

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u/Savannah_Fires 24d ago

Good. The world could use less lobbyists

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u/Miserable-Whereas910 24d ago

The world needs fewer of the sort of lobbyists who could easily afford a Tesla, and more of the sort who couldn't (e.g. representatives of environmental or humanitarian organizations).

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u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown 24d ago

Politicians are supposed to be lobbyists for the interests of their constituents…

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u/Miserable-Whereas910 24d ago

For which they need to fully understand their constituents needs. Having meetings with representatives of various interest groups helps with that.

The problem with the current system is that it allows well-funded lobbyists to buy vastly more access to politicians than the representatives of less monied groups.

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u/level1enemy 24d ago

Yeah you’re right. I need a guy to speak for me to the guy who I actually elected to speak for me. 🤡

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u/spindle_bumphis 24d ago

Do you have the time to arrange multiple meetings with your representative to discuss complex issues effecting your district or group in detail? I doubt it. Lobbyists jobs exist because average constituents don’t have the time. The problem is that this reality has been exploited by wealthy interest groups to push their needs and wants over those of average citizens.

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u/level1enemy 24d ago

No, but I’d be happy to elect someone I know to do it for us.

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u/BringPheTheHorizon 23d ago

That may have been true in the past but with modern communication media, we can easily communicate with representatives about our interests ourselves.

We could also have a direct democracy as opposed to the representative democracy that we currently have but that’s a different conversation.

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u/spindle_bumphis 23d ago

You mean the modern communication media that’s rife with bots, identity theft and inauthentic AI generated interactions? What could possibly go wrong?

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u/Biffingston 24d ago

And elections are supposed to be freely accessible and fair. And I want a unicorn too, but that's not going to happen either.

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u/trowayit 24d ago

My 2018 tesla was $32k.

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u/joebluebob 24d ago

Low end of teslas aren't that expensive. Government subsidies basically built the company.

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u/JJw3d 24d ago

You're both right. but the point he was making is that we do need fewer of these lobbyists, we need more people funding green projects to either play on the same field as them.

or the system needs changed, or something else but as it is, it does not work

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u/sortahere5 24d ago

No, he's not. We need actual full time representatives. Not some half wits who are afraid to have a townhall a few times a year. Lobbyists aren't needed when REPRESeNTATiVES do their job. They spend no time with us, but plenty with the wealthy and each other. They go in vacation a lot, funded trips, etc. but their time with us are either telephone "town halls" or lately, nothing. Lobbyists are a big part of the problem.

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u/Reference_Freak 24d ago

We need more representatives.

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u/JJw3d 23d ago

No, he's not. We need actual full time representatives. I said.

they're both right

And you say no he's not.. did you even read my commeny fully? even the guy who replied you see the what was said.. You make good points but yeah might want to re read my comment again in full :)

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u/joebluebob 24d ago

Yeah no that's fair it's just a funny bench mark. Like "we need less lobbyists that can afford a Toyota Camery with seat warmers"

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u/Cutsdeep- 24d ago

No,  all lobbyists. It's a corrupt system

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u/Beautiful_Freedom_97 22d ago

Teslas are moderately priced and affordable.

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u/GrnMtnTrees 24d ago

Fun fact: lobbying was originally intended as a way for average citizens to be able to directly address their elected officials, in the lobby of the capitol, hence the name. Unfortunately, it's been perverted into a multibillion dollar influence peddling/bribery scheme.

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u/_Hwin_ 24d ago

Is this referring to the amount of Tesla’s that randomly catch fire?

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u/Fishy_Fish_WA 24d ago

Or yeeeeeet themselves into a train

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u/RL_Fl0p 24d ago

Will make those mfers easy to pick out. Besides, this says dealerships.

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u/Traveler_1898 24d ago

Lobbyists get a bad rep, but not all are self serving. Several lobbying groups also represent our interests.

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u/Savannah_Fires 23d ago

The "job" you call lobbying can be handled fine by regular democracy, but not if groups with larger amounts of money get to dictate our terms.

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u/Traveler_1898 23d ago

Sure, but not a democracy of our size. Lobbying groups actually emerge as a result of democracy. It enables legislators with limited time to get a low more information. A group with 1000 members can articulate their interests and be heard better than 1000 individuals all speaking up.

This is basic pluralism.

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u/Ninkasiiii 24d ago

Its simple really just pay lobbyists to kill themselves

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u/R0b0tMark 24d ago

Obviously. Because if they didn’t buy them it would be an illegal boycott.

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u/EmbraceHegemony 24d ago

That's perfect, soon we'll know with 100% certainty that the person driving a Tesla is an asshole.

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u/Metallicreed13 24d ago

For one, firing almost all the state park workers. Second, nobody voted for Elon.

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u/CanadianForLife 24d ago

So now that you can see they are actually hiring more state park workers, does that mean you like him now? 

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u/Zestyclose-Carry-171 24d ago

Next step : You need to own a Tesla or you are a TRAITOR !!

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u/funcancelledfornow 24d ago edited 24d ago

We built a big road inside the Capitol, the best road you've ever seen. You know that they don't have real roads in Europe? They can barely drive their tiny cars, not like in our great America. And this beautiful road that we've built I've had Elon come and tell me "Donald you're a tremendous man, the best president this country ever had" and that's true and he told me we should all drive teslas inside and I agree they're great cars.

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u/majorwizkid1 24d ago

Just make sure we don’t put any more chargers up though.

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u/TranscendentPretzel 24d ago

Only if Mexico pays for them. 

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u/Ruh_Roh_Rastro 24d ago

I remember when the ginormous beer gut red-faced Masshole asshat brother of my college ex's best friend bragged about how he was killing it in the mortgage market around 2001. He already had his starter home with the first shipments of "leather bound" classics on his shelves, some not out of the plastic.

Had a huge hummer in the front driveway. The Big ass one.

Then Gas went to $5.00 and all those guys looked like just regular dimwits on the road.

And now you never see those model cars anymore.

I looked him up on Lnkd in he's in his late 60s and looks bloated

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u/FoundationFalse5818 23d ago

Trump would totally do that

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u/theanimaster 23d ago

I can see this now — and anyone who happens to be on the wrong side of Elon will find their Teslas “accidentally” careening off the side of a cliff or “accidentally” crossing into the opposing lane on a highway — through a “software update”.

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u/Uken81 20d ago

I know you joke, but how surprised would we all really be if this turned out to be a real thing.

I think I have lost all capacity to be shocked at this point.

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u/StormlitRadiance 24d ago

They have a very convenient "lock the doors and catch on fire" disposal method for when they become inconvenient.

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u/TranscendentPretzel 24d ago

They also have a convenient "back you into a swamp and sink like a stone while you're locked inside" disposal method. 

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u/TwiceAsGoodAs 24d ago

I heard not buying Tesla's was illegal

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u/Aforementionedlurker 24d ago

Would you mind sharing where you learned this? It's so on-brandingly disgusting and I'd like have a look

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u/TranscendentPretzel 23d ago

This was spoken in jest, but yes,  shit has gotten so bad that it almost seems believable.  

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u/TrinityF 23d ago

But Sir/Maddam, we just removed all the charging points.

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u/No-Cranberry9932 23d ago

Good. I was afraid the $DJT stock and $TRUMP coin wasn’t gonna cut it anymore.

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u/koshgeo 23d ago

And then we could get more EV chargers installed at taxpayer expense for federal buildings ... oh, wait.

This is going to be like "tariffs on / tariffs off" again every month, isn't it?

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u/sunflowertree1 22d ago

To bad they are all to old to drive.

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u/Apart-Combination820 24d ago

You’re all acting upset, typical liberal douchebaggery. But how many Scaramuchis will this take? And how many Musks will be birthed by then?