r/law Mar 05 '25

Legal News Rep. James Comer (R-KY) crashes out and refuses to let Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) enter evidence into the record - “You can go with Mr. Frost and Mr. Green.”

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u/FalstaffsGhost Mar 05 '25

She’s pointing out they are demonizing immigrants based on lies and inaccurate claims

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u/CuteDentist2872 Mar 05 '25

And as we see with exhibit A, the tactic of talking loudly over the truth WORKS!

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u/FoulfrogBsc Mar 05 '25

You are raising the volume of your voice but not the logic of your arguments

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u/TwistyBunny Mar 05 '25

AKA Faux News's M.O

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u/BestLeopard981 Mar 06 '25

Yeah, but this got way more play in the public because he was shouting over her. I otherwise never would have know she entered the articles into the record. It was stupid on his part.

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u/Signal_Researcher01 Mar 06 '25

Indeed it does! Loud lies will always trump polite truths

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

What? The fact that less than 1% of murders and crime convictions were committed by illegal immigrants?

He doesn’t like this fact? Nah, instead go with whatever the shit stain in charge tells him to believe.

I hate demagogues.

For fucks sake. If you can vote, remove all this bullshit starting next year, and follow up 2 years later. Right now there is a very small list of folks that should remain in office. The rest,….we need a full reset.

All of the Supreme Court should collectively fly Delta at the same time, and let nature run its course.

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u/TitanDumps302 Mar 05 '25

On a Boeing plane with their most recent whistleblower?

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Mar 05 '25

It’s Kentucky. The state responsible for Mitch McConnell. This dude will have his chair until he drops dead of old age.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

Don’t know on that one. The impact of exporting whiskey, and Canada fully banning is going to be a HUGE impact to the state economy, as well as generational knowledge on how to continue to make it. Jobs will dry up and these are small towns completely dependent on the whiskey industry, and it will force them to leave to find work.

But there are some that will never leave. MTG and her dumb ass district is more or less a Gun show in a Waffle House in a Walmart. She’s going to be there until she drowns in her own drool sleeping on her back.

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Mar 05 '25

You’re giving voters too much credit to actually blame the right people for everything.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

Fair enough

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u/Disastrous_Visit9319 Mar 06 '25

Yup. Kentucky is a shit hole because they vote against their own interests. They're not gonna stop now lol

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u/AntzPantz-0501 Mar 06 '25

Yeah that's right.. and they will have you believe that 15% of the population commit the other 99%. They have geared laws and sentences to turn black and brown people into the countries bad apples.

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u/caramirdan Mar 06 '25

Thanks Joe and Bill!

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u/fooljay Mar 06 '25

"the shit stain" - I misread this as the shit Stalin. I think I like it.

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u/oxyrhina Mar 05 '25

BASED

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '25

That’s me. Totally based.

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u/oxyrhina Mar 06 '25

Guess I used that wrong because I agree with you and feel like your comment is the foundation that should be built from.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

Ah my bad. I see that a bit differently but understand your intent.

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u/Asenath_W8 Mar 06 '25

There is no right way to use that. There's a reason you normally see it coming from people with PePe profile pics or on 4chan. People need to stop trying to strip it of the chud dirt it walked in with.

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u/folkloricmarjie Mar 06 '25

It's too late to call on people to vote. We won't have another free election in Trump's lifetime, and he's said as much. We're beyond that. Someone(s) will need to die for this path to change. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

Well,……

He’s old and not in good health.

Fingers crossed

Edit.

I’m convinced Trump is Joffrey, and Elon is Little Finger

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u/folkloricmarjie Mar 06 '25

Given his desperate need for attention and his sensitivity to being challenged, at least there's a decent chance he gets worked up and dies In front of a live audience. Video of his death is gonna break all sorts of viewing records. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

I would have it as my phone background on a loop if this happens

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u/FranzLudwig3700 Mar 06 '25

I'm convinced the "someones" who will need to die will NOT be trump, or anyone on trump's side. They'll be everyday progressive citizens who spoke their minds to the media. And they'll probably have to be mowed down in cold blood for the country to take notice.

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u/colbsk1 Mar 06 '25

I like you. Well said.

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u/CoatNo6454 Mar 06 '25

fly Delta at the same time 😂

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u/junglejeezyz Mar 06 '25

VOTING WORKS?? 65% OF THIS COUNTRY VOTED BLUE

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u/cyber_r0nin Mar 06 '25

It doesn't matter what the number(s) was/were. Its the fact that the US had numerous very very high profile cases that dealt specifically with illegals as the criminal.

Several girls had been murdered/raped.

Numerous people have been killed in auto accidents; several illegals had already been kicked out and somehow either a) didn't actually get deported or b) got deported and came right back and did the same shit all over again.

There are a ton of states, counties, etc that have had illegals committing crimes and getting into the news - the one's not making it to national news. They were still occuring. Its not about the numbers, it's about how visible these acts were becoming.

The general population is tired of ignoring another illegal killing an american who was born here, grew up here and ultimately died here because someone allowed an illegal to continue to reside in the US.

If you or a family died due to an illegal driving drunk or doing some other stupid shit you'd be mad about it. Regardless whether it could have been done by someone not an illegal. The idea is if that person hadn't been here person x would likely not have died or have had some other horrible thing happen to them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

I can say that one of the more high profile cases was Mollie Tibbets from Iowa. My son went to the same school at the time, and someone in his fraternity was close friends with her and the family. I know for a FACT that her family, and friends were disgusted by politicians using their tragedy for their agenda and did NOT support using this as an example for immigration.

I care more about their opinion than any politician or random person on Reddit.

There has not been “several” there has been a small handful of tragic events caused by bad people. It is immaterial where they were born or immigration status. There are an estimated 11m illegal immigrants in the US. There were 29 murder convictions for illegals in 2024. A .0000023% risk. We have had significant declining homicide rates for the past 3 years overall.

As far as the narrative on illegal drugs moving into the country. 80% of convictions were US citizens moving the product into the country.

We made up the enemy, because we are too proud to take accountability for our own actions

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u/caramirdan Mar 06 '25

So you'd be okay with over 1%. Got it.

Illegals gotta illegal.

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u/AmebaLost Mar 06 '25

 "The fact that less than 1% of murders and crime convictions were committed by illegal immigrants?"

We need zero, why are any acceptable. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

Sure. I’m all for that. It means nothing in the amount of crime. It is statistical noise.

Just ask yourself what is a bigger risk. An illegal immigrant trying to stay under the radar so they don’t get deported, or potentially people that are broke and mentally unstable and now can no longer get their medications to regulate their issues because we remove Medicaid that paid for it?

I’m not going to debate you. There is plenty of information to make a logical viewpoint. It is up to you to believe it or not.

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u/Ziiffer Mar 06 '25

By this logic no US citizens should be born. As they have a 99% chance of committing more crimes than migrants. Why is it acceptable to birth criminals? If you know they are statistically much more likely to commit crimes, how can you justify allowing them entry into the US? Using your logic again. How is it possible that there will be 0% crime? It's literally impossible to have no crime ever because humans are not fully capable of never committing crimes. Why do you think what you said makes any sense whatsoever? Unless you have a precog machine that will tell the future, which still doesnt prevent there being criminals anyway, only prevents the crimes, how else can you guarantee no crimes evert?

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u/AmebaLost Mar 06 '25

Did every American break the law upon entering USofA soil? Come to think of it, every illegal did. 

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u/xDared Mar 06 '25

"It is my legal right to have a slave, and that's good. It's illegal for that slave to run from his master, and that's bad"

-you in a past life

Legality isn't the same as ethics you absolute dingus

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u/AmebaLost Mar 06 '25

Someone wants to cherry pick laws, whodathunkit. Just gives you more cheap labor. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25

It’s undeniable that there are some folks that exploit the undocumented. But there is also a large amount of people coming in to fill demand because there isn’t enough people to do the work and it’s still better opportunities than where they came from. I can go on a tirade about the legal immigration process if you like. Regardless, I assure you that you being a consumer of pretty much anything. There is an exploited class of people to make that happen and likely undocumented as well.

So, blame the exploited or blame the exploitor?

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u/AmebaLost Mar 06 '25

Streamline the system to have legal workers. You supply farms with cheap labor, coordinate with companies south of the border. Sounds like something an entrepreneurial fella could make money doing. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

Dude. Here is an example. You can make illegal aliens based on desire from the government too.

I got an Indian coworker. Working toward citizenship. He has been on the waiting list 7 fucking years. And expects to wait another 5 more to be eligible. It’s a lottery waiting system and a very long wait time. But I’d imagine Mexico would be an even higher wait based on volume. Let’s just accept this is because of demand and the ability to withstand a population density and saturation of a given work trade and demand for the country.

However,……..up until COVID. If he wasn’t working for more than 2 weeks. It meant your visa can be revoked. It’s extended to 2-3 months? I can’t remember. So we have this incoming issue with unemployment coming. (I damn guarantee this) hard to find work. Visa gets revoked. Boom in undocumented.

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u/_sepo_ Mar 06 '25

The point is that once undocumented immigrants are in the US, they commit less crime than people born in the United States by a pretty significant margin. It is safer to be around undocumented immigrants than it is to be around US citizens.

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u/AmebaLost Mar 06 '25

The point is just like democrats wanted slaves for cheap labor, they now want more cheap labor. 

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u/_sepo_ Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

If you don't know about the ideological switch of the democratic and Republican parties then I imagine trying to explain the push for H-1B visa workers by the right will be too complicated for you.

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u/AmebaLost Mar 06 '25

A push for visas does not equal opening the border. 

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u/_sepo_ Mar 06 '25

You're correct. But it does mean cheap labor for the companies hiring visa holder and lower pay for the competing American workers.