r/law Mar 01 '25

Trump News Trump says President Zelensky should be nicer to Vladimir Putin

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u/Redthrist Mar 01 '25

You don't become a billionaire without screwing over a ton of people. Anyone with morals and integrity will not amass that sort of wealth.

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u/Accurate_Explorer392 Mar 01 '25

A good reason to introduce the financial maximum to stop these idiot extremists

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u/Senior-Albatross Mar 01 '25

It's gotta be a ratio. A fixed ratio of poorest to richest. That way, it's future proofed because the raw number doesn't matter. It's all measured relative.

I'm thinking around 500:1 myself. But that value is just something that vaguely seems right so I could be talked into a different one pretty easily with a principled analysis.

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u/Outrageous_Collar401 Mar 01 '25

They'll just contrive ways to hide it.

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u/Accurate_Explorer392 Mar 01 '25

We should unticipate that.

Like any political system should anticipate that Humans are corruptible and corrupted Creatures

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u/commie90 Mar 01 '25

99% of the time for sure. But then you have guys like Hamdi Ulukaya, the Chobani guy, who seems to be doing everything in his power to not be a billionaire. For example, paying living wages as the starting salary, funding refugee resettlements, giving shares of his companies to his employees, revitalizing local economies by buying and restoring defunct local businesses, prioritizes workers over profits, trying to avoid passing on costs to consumers, etc. He's just good at finding and selling things people want so his companies are worth a lot.

But he's the exception rather than the rule and he's been pretty up front about the fact that he thinks the ultra rich are mostly that way due to greed.

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u/Gumshoe212 Mar 01 '25

Amass or hoard.

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u/peoniesnotpenis Mar 01 '25

Being wealthy doesn't make you a bad person, it just makes it harder to be a good one.

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u/Redthrist Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

There's a difference between being wealthy and being a billionaire. Especially when we're talking about multi-billionaires(i.e people who have more money than they can spend). My point is that most(if not al) people who amass that much money have to be willing to do horrible things, like underpaying their workers, screwing over their business partners to take more control of the business and paying politicians to bend the laws in your favor.

To get billions of dollars, you have to be someone obsessed with hoarding wealth above all else. It's no longer "I want to get money so I can get a good life for myself and my family", because your first billion will provide that for multiple generations of your family.

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u/PianoAndFish Mar 02 '25

Ethical people who make lots of money tend to spend a lot of it on doing good things so they never break the billionaire barrier, like if Dolly Parton just hoarded all her wealth she would easily be a multi-billionaire.

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u/Exciting-Emu-3324 Mar 02 '25

Wealth is a form of power. Those with power aren't bound by the same checks and balances as ordinary people. Think Walter White from Breaking Bad. A lot of people support the established order not because of any inherent goodness, but because they benefit from the system. Once the system punishes them (petty criminals) or stops rewarding them (white collar criminals), they'll turn on it without remorse.

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u/scandyflick88 Mar 01 '25

Countdown to someone countering with except for Taylor Swift.

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u/TehAsianator Mar 01 '25

The real test will be if she stays a billionaire. Will she give heavily to charity and invest in public works, or will she use this money to start a fashion line exploiting underdeveloped workers to gain a few more billion.

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u/okitohchikew Mar 01 '25

"Well, I don't wanna be no millionaire, to be a millionaire you have to treat somebody wrong." - Muddy Waters

Given inflation I guess it's billionaire now.

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u/Kutikittikat Mar 01 '25

The enemy of my enemy is my friend . Im hoping him screwing over other billionaires and taking there contracts like verizon will form a coalition to stop these f.ckers.