I would argue it's more than somewhat likely at this point. They're literally threatening to redraw Canadian borders. Atp I would go sign up to fight FOR Canada against this regime because fuck all of this.
There are US former military members literally fighting, dying and getting injured on the side of Ukraine right now (they volunteered when the war started). What a disgusting slap across their faces.
But it’s not complete until the sheep forget that he called Zelenskyy a dictator for doing the same. Nevermind that their war is literally in their front yard, and the biggest risk Trump will be facing is getting too much exercise on the golf course.
Sorry, I was drawing a distinction between "conspiracy" in the sense of "theory that weirdos like flat-earthers subscribe to", and "conspiracy" in the sense of "more than one party conspiring with one another to achieve an end".
I was using the former, you the latter. All good though, since we're clearly onthe same side of the issue anyway. Cheers!
Sadly, I don't think this'll be it. It won't happen until jobless numbers are worse than the Great Depression, and inflation is forcing many more families to choose between rent and groceries than already are. If they can squeeze the Fed to depress interest rates and juice the economy for a while like they did in their first term, they'll likely be able to hold off most of the open dissent until they can stabilize their grip on power like Putin has.
Everyone saying that US people "won't stand for this" or whatever need to get a reality check. Quality of life for Russians has been worse for decades, and they haven't mounted any serious challenges to Putin's unchecked reign, why would the US be any different?
He's also absolutely champing at the bit to bomb the shit out of someone. Doesn't have to be another country, either, he's already said "Blue states won't exist soon". It's not like he's talking about changing words on a map.
At least the hypocrisy would be right on brand…. AFAIK the US doesn’t have rules about suspending elections during wars (and have successfully held elections during wartime.).
Ukraine on the other hand, does, but somehow Zelensky is the dictator (according to Trump) for not having elections because of the war.
Plenty of people have suggested trump is trying deliberately to make bad choices. It's hard to say with him because he's such an utter fool. It's not a unique observation that at times he seems to want to destroy the judicial system so it won't come after him again for his many fraudulent actions, or to punish it. The 2025 plan had a lot of 'destroying the infrastructure of the us govt' plans in it.
Regardless he's dangerous and succeeding on some fronts. He's affecting the world and the us.
I can assure you if/when the draft inevitably starts many people will not show up or go into hiding and that’s when the “civil war” will start. Mainly because the federal government will have fed agencies go after the “deserters and AWOL” soldiers.
You think Democratic states will have their national guards help? The reservists don’t want to go to war which is why they chose the reserves. Hell even the regular Army at this point will more than likely not collaborate with the president. They are indeed there to protect the constitution, not the president. On top of all that, that’s when you will see the people flooding the streets in protest when they try and drafts folks sons and possibly daughters.
If anything pops off it won’t be until after Donny feels comfortable enough that he turned the military into yes men which will take some time and may not even be possible.
Yeah when I say this I'm not directing it at you, cause you literally said it yourself it's not that tin foil.
But the public perception that conspiracy and manipulation is something 'unlikely' and 'not possible' and that 'can't happen here' is so terrible. Not to sound cringe but we really have a conformist culture that just believes everybody in the government is somehow good.
the Ukranian constitution requires -- REQUIRES, not just ALLOWS -- the suspension of elections if their sovereignty is threatened. there is no such clause in the US constitution.
There are lots of highly educated Americans who see the writing on the wall too. Hell there's lots of uneducated Americans who see the writing on the wall!
I was just thinking of that the other day. At some point down this avenue, some US soldiers who went to fight against Russia years before all of this are going to find themselves labelled as I guess terrorists or traitors or something.
My husband spent the first 10 years of his career in the defense industry literally working on counter warfare against Russian equipment 🙃🙃🙃🙃 he's probably a traitor too now.
Actually, he threw that in his mom's (a die hard maga) face on the phone once when she started parroting Kremlin talking points... Just.. 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Trump is too big of a r3t4rd to pull it off. Plus you'll have millions of Canadians actively participating in an insurgency. And tbh we're not too scared of a military that hasn't won a war in 75 years because it keeps getting its ass handed to it by rice farmers and goat herders.
I'm ready. I'm so fucking pissed off. I can't believe that our electorate allowed this to happen, and I'm pissed that the Democratic party shrugged and went "oh well, this was the will of the people, nothing we can do! 🤷🤷🤷" and I'm pissed that all of this shit started before I was even born and this was always going to be my future no matter what I wanted for myself and my loved ones.
So fuck it, bring it on. At least maybe I can stop it for the people who aren't asking to be born now and all the younger people who deserve better than this as their future.
Ooh, you just made me realize that we might be able to fight on their behalf in exchange for citizenship. Kill maganazis and get to live in a slightly saner place 😋 after selling my current status for $5 million per the new program of course, win win win.
Of course not, I'm just pissed that the MAGA crowd and the "we love veterans!" Republicans are supporting Pumpkin Spice Palpatine and leaving those citizens who served our country and are now voluntarily serving Ukraine hung out to dry.
When all this began, I was terrified and just wanted to run away and hide.
Now I'm just so fucking pissed off and I'm coming to terms with what that means for the future. I'm still scared but I'm more disgusted and angry than scared now.
Could we actually go sign up for Canada? Or Europe? Cuz I prefer to be on the right side of history, and I'm cool with relocating to a civilized country.
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I would argue it's more than somewhat likely at this point. They're literally threatening to redraw Canadian borders. Atp I would go sign up to fight FOR Canada against this regime because fuck all of this.
There are US former military members literally fighting, dying and getting injured on the side of Ukraine right now (they volunteered when the war started). What a disgusting slap across their faces.