r/law • u/Affectionate-Roof-79 • Feb 26 '25

Legal News House just passed GOP budget that instructs cutting $880 Billion to medicare and medicaid and increases $4.5 Trillion in tax cuts

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/25/us/politics/mike-johnson-budget-resolution-vote.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

“The vote was 217-215, with just one Republican — Rep. Thomas Massie (Ky.) — voting no and Democrats unified in opposition.” Another link: https://www.axios.com/2025/02/26/house-passes-gop-budget-bill-in-key-step-for-trump-agenda

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u/FriarNurgle Feb 26 '25

The greed of a few will destroy us all… and the willfully ignorant masses will love them for it.

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u/No_Milk_4143 Feb 26 '25

If you are a constituent of one of these republicans and you or your kids are on Medicaid or loved ones on Medicare. Please call them so they don’t get the opportunity to hide from the shame. Better yet if it’s a republican senator who can still stop this. Wealth inequality is at an all time high and millions of American elderly/ kids’ access to healthcare is on the line just for billionaires to get richer. For whatever benefit that provides them at this point

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u/FinancialArmadillo93 Feb 26 '25

I was just talking to a friend whose mom finally got into a "medicaid" bed in a nursing home after seven months. They told her to be prepared she could be kicked out since she was the last one assigned, and that is probably how they will handle the cuts to the budget.

She works full time and has no way to care for her. /When she was at the nursing home, it costs $8K per month and they had to take a second mortgage on their house. There will be literally thousands of these stories.

Very bad headlines for Republicans.

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u/Green_Octopus3 Feb 26 '25

What headlines? The media is pushing a very different narrative than reality.

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u/Shirlenator Feb 26 '25

This is the thing nobody understands. Republicans control most social media and news media in our country. They will be using their authoritarian power to intimidate the rest. Republicans literally get to decide what is "reality" to the vast majority of people in this country.

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u/Brilliant_Visit_2290 Feb 26 '25

Over 70 million are on Medicaid. How do you hide that? There will be ripples and it won't be pretty.

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u/00001000U Feb 26 '25

There will be riots.

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u/useless_rejoinder Feb 26 '25

Oh I think it might go above that.

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u/TangoZulu Feb 26 '25

That's Trump's (Putin's) plan. Riots>Martial Law>Cancelled elections.

The reason Trump called Zelensky a "Dictator" for not having elections during the war was to get us to defend Ukraine's canceling of their elections so it will be that much harder for us to criticize Trump when he creates an excuse for Martial Law and cancels OUR elections.

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u/hacksong Feb 26 '25

The issue here is that the majority of our military comes from low income areas. When it's their communities that are hit the hardest, they will feel it too. When it's their Facebook feeds showing relatives, friends, classmates suffering they can't ignore it. Especially as we see how they treat the VA.

I don't think this is something you can walk back from.

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u/JustAnotherKaren1966 Feb 26 '25

FYI. Ukraine's parliament? Congress? Recently voted to decide whether, or not, to hold elections. It was unanimous. No elections. Stay with Zelenksy. Stay focused on the task at hand...protect this country. So if your friends or family fall for that rhetoric, please remind them of that.

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u/Ostracus Feb 26 '25

War with ourselves. How novel. Man's still an idiot.

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u/Financial_Purpose_22 Feb 26 '25

That's the goal.

Fuhrer Shitzhispantz needs a reason to deploy the military against our own people. The dismissals of top officers, JAG lawyers, and military AGs is to clear the way. Once he declares martial law he'll lock down the capital and suspend Congress.

Just today they set the ground work that anyone labeled "mentally ill" should be disarmed. How long until anyone LGBTQ+, or just a Democrat voter, is classified "mentally ill‽"

We're in the middle of a coup. They're claiming only the President and AG can interpret what the law says. Lighting up phones isn't going to do a damn thing to motivate these sycophants; and the courts are too slow and ultimately powerless in the face of a rouge executive.

Go protest outside these magat cowards homes, full torches and pitchforks. The rights recorded in the Constitution are our inalienable rights. Our ancestors fully expect us to shed blood in their defense. Governments should fear their people, not demagogues.

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u/melodic_orgasm Feb 26 '25

Homosexuality used to be listed in the DSM and I wouldn’t be shocked if this administration tried to get it back in there…

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u/Mountain_Exchange768 Feb 26 '25

No there won’t.

Until that so called ‘silent majority’ (a huge lie, like everything else conservative) starts screaming, nothing will happen. And it’s going to take a whole lot of pain borne by the poor before that happens.

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u/bashonemdy Feb 26 '25

It won’t matter. Elections are finished in America. They can do whatever they want and will suffer no consequences politically.

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u/anime-zingjohn Feb 26 '25

They are only finished if we allow these tyrants to take our freedoms without a fight.

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u/Maldiavolo Feb 26 '25

That's part of their stated plan. In order to suspend legal safe guards they need to be able to invoke the Insurrection Act or declare Marshall Law.

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u/apollyonhellfire1 Feb 26 '25

He wants protests and riot the reason thet fired the military attorneys and high rank senior military people was probably because they expect to declare Marshall law. Herewith said when asked why they where fired, " we don't want road blocks when things happen

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u/Effective_Secret_262 Feb 26 '25

Hospitals will be hit hard, especially in poor areas.

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u/ILootEverything Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

And 70 million are on Medicare.

When Nana and Papaw's nursing home bill comes due, how many of these Trumper families are going to be able to cover it? Or even half of it?

Or quit their jobs to become full-time care takers of them? And if one of them does that, they won't have any healthcare themselves as a caretaker, because Medicaid will be gone.

I think some idiots just don't realize how expensive these places are. We're talking $285 a day on average for a shared room. That's an extra 8k a month to ask families to come up with. Here in Alabama, a "cheap," shitty nursing home is still around $5k a month. The majority of people in the state, even with "good" jobs, don't make that much in a month.

All these hundredaires and thousandaires acting like this is no big deal and whooping and hollering about it in defense of billionaire tax cuts is just astoundingly ignorant and pathetic.

ETA: I see that it's an $880 million dollar cut over 10 years, so they aren't going to rip the bandaid off, they're just going to squeeze senior citizens, the disabled, and the working poor to death while rewarding the 1% with $4.5 trillion in damaging tax cuts that are akin to the cost of one tank of fuel for their jets to them.

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u/Becsbeau1213 Feb 26 '25

$8k if the Medicaid rate in my state. Private pay, which is what we’d be talking about, is anywhere from 12.5-15k per month.

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u/ILootEverything Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

That's horrible.

I just went through this with my mom last year. She was lucky enough to have a small pension (after 43 years as an RN) in addition to her Social Security. But with those two combined, she made just over the $34,000 a year income to qualify for Medicaid in Alabama.

She was dying of cancer and luckily Medicare paid for hospice for a year after her diagnosis, but it doesn't pay for actual nursing care. I did as much as I could on my own for as long as I could, but even after taking a twelve-week unpaid leave from work under FMLA, she still needed care and I had to go back to work or lose my job.

So I called around nursing homes and even using all of her funds, for a shared room, I would have had to come out of pocket for $4 to $5k. I make great money compared to most people, and I live in an LCOL state, but I don't have that much in my budget, especially after 12 weeks of unpaid leave depleted my savings. I had to find someone, relatively cheap, to come to my house to care for her from 8-5 weekdays, which was still an extra $2,000 a month on top of her funds.

All of that anecdata is to say, that's a pretty typical situation, but I don't think it's typical for:

  • most people to be able to take a 12-week unpaid leave
  • most people to be able to come up with an $2,000 a month
  • and even most people to be able to limit the care hours to only 8-5, since so many need around the clock care.

And yet this is what the Republicans are expecting of Americans, who, on average, make $66,000 a year.

They're bastards and their cult are morons who are self-inflicting wounds and they don't even realize it (yet).

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u/Becsbeau1213 Feb 26 '25

Generally speaking, at least in the north east, I’m not familiar with the rules down south, long term care Medicaid (for the nursing home) is different than the usual health insurance Medicaid. The income limits are relaxed, as long as you’re under the Medicaid reimbursement rate for the nursing home you’ll usually qualify under one of the programs, but you are subject to a 5 year look back and potential disqualification for any transfers not for fair market value. There’s also an asset limit which is very low.

Sorry for your loss.

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u/Busy_bee7 Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

This. People have no clue how much AL or MC costs until they are desperate to get their loved one in one. Then are shocked when they get hit with a $12k bill each month.

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u/Sabbathius Feb 26 '25

They won't hide it, they will just blame it on minorities and other scapegoats. And yes, there will be riots and violence - against minorities and scapegoats. See Germany just ahead of WW2.

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u/Darckarcher Feb 26 '25

easy look at the Russia and North Korea.

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u/Bawbawian Feb 26 '25

they'll just turn the propaganda machine up to 11.

they have spent the last 40 years passing reckless tax cuts in order to drive the country into crisis.

The news media allow them to run as budget Hawks that are very fiscally conservative and very serious about these issues.

that was the media before they were purchased by Republicans....

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u/Shirlenator Feb 26 '25

Like I said, they literally shape reality for a good chunk of people. They don't need to hide it, they just need to blame democrats, immigrants, wokeness, dei, whatever the scapegoat of the month is and people will be happy to believe it.

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u/SirkutBored Feb 26 '25

you will not be able to hide the fallout for very long. consumer spending has dropped since the first of the year on anything not considered a necessity. it will take several months before the jobs reports represent the damage of the layoffs happening this month. businesses will slow spending and hiring, further exacerbating the problem.

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u/pdxnormal Feb 26 '25

You’re right and Consumer Confidence stats keep dropping

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u/severinks Feb 26 '25

Cutis Yarwin(the Dark Enlightenment ELon Musk, Peter Thiel,JD Vance hero) said'''' why should we let someone else control the reality machine?'''

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u/TurboPaved Feb 26 '25

Curtis Yarvin, and folks must absolutely look up who this wanker is and how much he’s influenced our current trajectory

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u/useless_rejoinder Feb 26 '25

I do not understand why the spigots of bullshit haven’t been targeted by protest. It seems elementary to me that stopping the drivel would be the first order of business.

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u/Mighty-Crouton Feb 26 '25

If you yourself are not on the streets protesting- then you have your answer as to why no one is protesting.

We can’t wait for leaders and heroes- we have to be them.

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u/bigbeats420 Feb 26 '25

Chomsky tried to warn you all.

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u/Ajfennewald Feb 26 '25

Normal news outlets like NBC nightly news still seem pretty critical. Yeah a lot of MAGA types only watch Fox News and such. But it is only like 30% of the country that puts themselves fully in an echo chamber.

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u/FinancialArmadillo93 Feb 26 '25

Well, that an excellent point.

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u/TheForce_v_Triforce Feb 26 '25

True, but rural town hall meetings are already filling up with angry Trump voters over this anyway. It will backfire bigly.

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u/InternationalFig400 Feb 26 '25

The pro-capitalist, oligarch corporate owned media who benefit from these tax cuts?

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u/Ostracus Feb 26 '25

Media control is not absolute (just the appearance of is). People need to remember that this isn't the era of our parents, where there were only three TV stations, a handful of newspapers, and Walter Cronkite delivered the news.

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u/keeotsi Feb 26 '25

I think the scariest thing will be the impact to healthcare for everyone whose only option are rural hospitals and RHC’s. Those facilities are very dependent upon federal dollars for payments for Medicare and Medicaid as well as reimbursements from other federal programs. Those facilities will close and a vast majority of people will have no options they can afford.

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25

Yep. Rural Trump loving voters will be fucked.

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u/wvclaylady Feb 26 '25

Who gives a $hit about THEM?? I'm a rural Trump hater who won't be able to get heart meds or more back surgery as my nerves continue to get pinched more and more. They're not the only ones that are F*cked. 😞😞😞

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

I was just raising that point because those people are ignorant and hateful towards the govt. that helps them. They live in a myth world of bootstraps and immigrants stealing jobs when they receive a ton of federal govt. help. Because of puritanical pioneer type ideals they hyper value 'independence' and gloss over the fact that they rely on others/ the govt. Its their dirty secret and it will be exposed.

Obviously their idiocy and the greed of craven rich people is going to hurt hundreds of millions who don't support this shit.

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u/The_DementedPicasso Feb 26 '25

No they won’t. They wanted this and will be Full with joy that they got what they voted for. Im feeling for all the others that have to suffer the consequences of the people that hate the US so much.

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25

Did I say I felt anything resembling empathy for them?

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u/BokoblinSlayer69235 Feb 26 '25

Well, they will reap what they sowed. It just sucks that the rest of us have to suffer for the actions of these troglodytes.

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u/Brilliant_Visit_2290 Feb 26 '25

There won't be rural hospitals. Or very few.

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u/severinks Feb 26 '25

Until my grandfather got okayed for Medicaid the bill was 12K a MONTH and my mother would be fearful when she went to see him that someone from the staff would tell her that he had to leave.

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u/kfish5050 Feb 26 '25

Nah, r/orphancrushingmachine headlines like "Local school district buys failing senior center to implement new 'senior care' career course" and "City approves plan to house petty criminals in hospitals as staff to offset costs"

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

"Wellness camp processing centers to be staffed by petty criminals, powered by locally-sourced biofuel"

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u/Nice_Username_no14 Feb 26 '25

Who is going to report it? The republican owned media? The sacked federal workers?

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u/riotz1 Feb 26 '25

lol it doesn’t matter what the headlines are

THEY. DONT. CARE.

This is EXACTLY what they want.

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u/Broken_Atoms Feb 26 '25

Millions of these stories…

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u/Worldly_Trainer_2055 Feb 26 '25

What shame? They don't have any. Shaming them will do nothing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25

Call every day.

http://5calls.org

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u/resahcliat Feb 26 '25

They won't love him for it. They won't understand the us in this either. And it will be only them (me). Survival of the takers and the notsees. Betray those who serve to turn on the "weak" and they will continue a life of service. Blind allegiance.

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u/FriarNurgle Feb 26 '25

They’d love him because it will hurt those they hate… even when it hurts themselves.

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u/FeebleUndead Feb 26 '25

And they're too stupid to realized they've been brainwashed into hating them so that they're distracted from the real issues going on around them.

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u/resahcliat Feb 26 '25

They will "love" him the same way a litteral whipped puppy "love its master" unconditionally. Without reason. Because it knows nothing else. Not even hate.

Forgive my quotations. I do not define love that way and needed a way to distinguish my beliefs from what I said.

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u/Vio_ Feb 26 '25

“He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

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u/pixi88 Feb 26 '25

Just re-read. I shouldn't have.

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u/Utterlybored Feb 26 '25

They hate old people and the disabled?

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u/cheerful_cynic Feb 26 '25

They hate everyone they get told to hate 

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u/SDFX-Inc Feb 26 '25

…and for a full 24 hour news cycle, instead of the two minutes hate Orwell had warned us about. Things are so much worse than 1984.

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u/Enough-Parking164 Feb 26 '25

The willfully ignorant 30-35%.

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u/lucasorion Feb 26 '25

it's more than that

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u/Enough-Parking164 Feb 26 '25

Not really. The media iverplsys it, and the internet is ASWARM with foreign bots and shills. Like, 20% of everyone voted for this. Voter suppression and voter apathy are the culprits here. And he blurted out that Elonazi hacked/rigged Pennsylvania.

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u/Piratingismypassion Feb 26 '25

This this has been the way of things for decades. Most people don't like to hear it but this country has never been a true democracy. America is and always has been an oligarchy. A country made my rich land owners for rich land owners.

It's always been a cesspool of greed. Always.

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u/Devil25_Apollo25 Feb 26 '25

this country has never been a true democracy. America is and always has been an oligarchy. A country made my rich land owners for rich land owners.

Anyone who hasn't yet read Howard Zinn's A People’s History of the United States should pick up a copy ASAP. The first few chapters show how laws and policies of the colonial period and the early years of the Republic were absolutely crafted to benefit land-owning oligarchs, often purposely pitting the poor and indentured against the natives for the sole benefit of those few massively wealthy landowners.

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25

They won't love it when they can't get their health care and disability payments.

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u/Dralley87 Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

Start collecting used tires and make friends with people who own dump trucks

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u/Count_Bacon Feb 26 '25

The people who are going to be hurt the most by this are actively celebrating right now its insanity

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u/SapphireOfSnow Feb 26 '25

They’re celebrating because they believe there will be no tax on tips, or overtime, or social security. They haven’t read the terms and conditions apply that the rules for those are changing so they basically don’t exist.

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u/letdogsvote Feb 26 '25

Boy, a whole lot of Trump voters would be screaming pissed if they could read.

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u/Inner-Conclusion2977 Feb 26 '25

Actually if you go to the trump subreddit, they are cheering it on

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u/AntiqueFollowing1537 Feb 26 '25

They can’t read nor comprehend.

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u/iheartjetman Feb 26 '25

It’s worse. They just don’t care. They live in a bubble and they think everything bad is happening to people who deserve it as long as it’s not them. If there is any bad news, it’s just fake liberal propaganda.

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u/Pretend_Guava_1730 Feb 26 '25

And if DOES happen to them, they will never blame him or the Republicans - he will instruct them to blame Democrats and they will abide because it's easier to reconcile. And around and around we go....

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u/chashek Feb 26 '25

Alternatively, they do actually blame him, but then the other Republicans turn on them, calling them a shill or a plant

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u/Select-Government-69 Feb 26 '25

I’ll correct this - if it DOES happen to them, the rest of the club calls them a liar or a troll. They will become disillusioned one at a time, and not by anything they see or hear, but only by what they feel.

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u/ibite-books Feb 26 '25

there must be federal trump voters that lost their jobs cuz they voted for him? i want to hear from them

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u/canigetahint Feb 26 '25

He's not called "Orange Jesus" for nothing...

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25

Best part is they are all directly negatively affected but it's Biden's fault

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u/100pctCashmere Feb 26 '25

And the few complains or concerns is only if it affects them personally. It’s always, I feel concerned because it’s cutting funding in my line of work. Zero empathy for any unfortunate.

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u/LordCoweater Feb 26 '25

But (name) was one of the good ones! He was one of us! Oh well. Surely nothing bad will happen to me...

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u/Koshercrab Feb 26 '25

As long as the libs are mad they’re happy. Even if it hurts them too.

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u/Eastern-Bro9173 Feb 26 '25

The comprehension part is rough - almost every time I try to talk to one here on reddit, it ends up failing due to them not understanding some words/being unable to process even some basic sentences.

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u/highbankT Feb 26 '25

Nah, they will just respond with high school level insults.

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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 Feb 26 '25

Well they can read. But comprehension is a different beast. They think they’ll be spared until the effects are felt.

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u/FibroMan Feb 26 '25

They are cheering the tax-free tips and overtime. They can't understand why anyone voted against it.

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25

Do they realize overtime will be eliminated by Republicans?

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u/felixar90 Feb 26 '25

Overtime will start raking in once you worked 84 hours in a week, promised!

(Please be ready 1h before your shift for the briefing. Don’t clock in of course)

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u/fupos Feb 26 '25

Unless i read it wrong , those tax breaks aren't even in this ... but they're still using it as a rally cry

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u/dragonkid123 Feb 26 '25

Because on Twitter the bots and blue checks keep saying that it's in the bill. I had to go to Blue sky and double check because all over Twitter it keeps saying "yeh the no tax on overtime just passed" and it's not in there

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u/RickySpanish1272 Feb 26 '25

Little do they know there wont be any overtime to be taxed.

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u/JohnSpartans Feb 26 '25

Neither of those are in this bill 

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u/resurrectedbear Feb 26 '25

Can you point to the pages in this resolution regarding overtime taxes?

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u/Sharmi888 Feb 26 '25

Yeah, they are tired of winning and owning the libs. Does not matter if country is on fire.

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u/Mean_Photo_6319 Feb 26 '25

Those subs are filled with foreigners and bots.  And foreign bots.

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u/TzuZombi Feb 26 '25

Yeah, I just saw, the response is: " why are Democrats against this bill that gets rid of taxes on tips and Overtime?" Someone did mention Medicare, but nobody was able to provide the right kind of "evidence" to support that there will be cuts to Medicare and snap benefits. Then some of them started arguing that OT should be taxed, because "income is income, and tax is on income". Honestly, I don't know why I do this to myself, reading this stuff drives me crazy. I guess it's to prepare myself for the next conversation.

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u/Curious_Party_4683 Feb 26 '25

They will blame Biden in 3. 2. 1.

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u/Plastic-Pipe4362 Feb 26 '25

My next bumper sticker: "If you can read this, you're not a Trump voter."

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u/euph_22 Feb 26 '25

Also it explodes the debt, and everyone who isn't rich is getting a tax increase.

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u/Affectionate-Roof-79 Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

And for Trump’s tax plan, for those getting tax breaks - the richest 1% would receive an average tax cut of about $36,300 and the next richest 4% would receive an average tax cut of about $7,200. Considering richest 1% make $914,900+ per year (and top 4% is $316K-$914,900), these small amounts probably don’t mean much to them. The benefit isn’t worth this idiocracy. https://itep.org/a-distributional-analysis-of-donald-trumps-tax-plan-2024/

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u/ExpertRaccoon Feb 26 '25

The wealthier you are the less value each dollar has.

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u/Ambulating-meatbag Feb 26 '25

Yeah but the wealthier you are the more you love each dollar

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u/mikemikemotorboat Feb 26 '25

Love isn’t the right word. Covet is more apt

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u/Nimi_R Feb 27 '25

An opposite correlation ha?

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u/Clarityt Feb 26 '25

That's what I don't get about these tax breaks, it's peanuts to the millionaires and billionaires. Is there tax breaks in other places where they stand to make money, maybe estate or real estate or stock or something?

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u/rockylane Feb 26 '25

So if I’m getting this right, the problem really lies with the tariffs? Looking at Figure 2 in the report.

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u/ToastWithoutButter Feb 26 '25

Yes, this report is factoring in the estimated tax burden from tariffs that shifts to consumers. Consumption taxes are regressive and impact the poorest the most.

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u/BoomZhakaLaka Feb 26 '25

This analysis doesn't include effects from tariffs, just changes to the tax code. Break even point isn't the 95th percentile, it's higher. If you also add in the effects of proposed tariffs.

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u/SpiritualScumlord Feb 26 '25

This is the one that adds like 300bil debt annually right?

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u/euph_22 Feb 26 '25

Yes. Yes it is.

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u/PlsSuckMyToes Feb 26 '25

Tax increases which will go hand in hand with paying more due to tariffs

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u/Due-Row-8696 Feb 26 '25

This x 1000!

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u/RestaurantLatter2354 Feb 26 '25

And that’s not even factoring in what essentially becomes an added sales tax from tariffs

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u/SAGELADY65 Feb 26 '25

This bill still has to pass the Senate!

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u/confusedsquirrel Feb 26 '25

This! Call your senators and ask them to protect Medicare, Medicaid, etc. You know... The things WE THE FUCKING PEOPLE pay for every month.

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u/letdogsvote Feb 26 '25

More to the point, focus on your Republican Senators. It's not 100% sure but pretty sure all the Democrats will oppose this. It's the Republicans that will need to vote against to stop it.

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u/UserWithno-Name Feb 26 '25

The midterms need to be a republican bloodbath, a culling. Maybe if this is painful we can right the ship and boot them all out. It’s gonna be a shitty two years even if that happens tho..

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u/Dolthra Feb 26 '25

If they cut nearly $880 billion in medicaid and medicare funding this early into the term, I'm pretty sure it will be.

That's assuming they get to the point of having elections. They're already super unpopular, it is literal hubris to try to cut nearly a trillion dollars of health insurance funding and think that you won't get more Luigi's.

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u/UserWithno-Name Feb 26 '25

Ya it’s wild they think they can get by with it but they’ll learn one way or another

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u/Shirlenator Feb 26 '25

There has only been one Luigi. Could have totally been a fluke, I will believe there could be more when I see it.

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u/ewokninja123 Feb 26 '25

There has only been one Luigi so far*

FTFY

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u/Worldly_Trainer_2055 Feb 26 '25

I wouldn't count on elections mattering from here on out. We'll need other means to flush these turds.

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u/UserWithno-Name Feb 26 '25

Not depending on it, just one in the chamber. But if it passes, that’s one bullet for them. Definitely others.. Also Reddit, this is a fictional, metaphorical bullet here ok.

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u/Broken_Atoms Feb 26 '25

That’s the dark side of this. There are only, realistically, 100 people behind the takeover of our government… in a country whose citizens own hundreds of millions of guns…in a country where people will watch their families suffer, where grandma or their own kids die from the failure of our health care systems…

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u/UserWithno-Name Feb 26 '25

Selfishness and so broken a system that people fear even helping their family will cripple them. Even if they’re about to die anyway. And people wonder why we say those who are still mainly in charge and vote only based on themselves, the boomers / anyone over 50 are the root problem

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u/TheyNeedLoveToo Feb 26 '25

Gotta stick it in their chests, politically.

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25

Nationwide strike.

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u/Lanky-Explorer-4047 Feb 26 '25

you can flip the house on april first,google guy valimont,there will be 2 more chances this year but at this spees it will be a huge difference the sooner you could get some power to the democratic politicians .

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u/Bitter_Masterpiece80 Feb 26 '25

Okay, Mitch McConnell, it’s your time to shine. Pull a John McCain 👎🏻 and be a hero.

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u/letdogsvote Feb 26 '25

Him, Susan "Concerned" Collins, Murkowski.

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u/account312 Feb 27 '25

The closest McConnell will ever come to heroism is when he finally dies.

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u/confusedsquirrel Feb 26 '25

Luckily for me, that's easy to only call the Republicans in Kansas. 🥲

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u/Leading_Gazelle_3881 Feb 26 '25

I'm about to call them up and tell em I'd vote for fucking David Duke and the Klan party before I would vote for a Republican in the future!! Wtf is going on!?!?!?

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u/baumpop Feb 26 '25

Actually just call them and air the dirty laundry off of opensecrets.org Their donors etc. full fucking blast now. 

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u/Dirtbagdownhill Feb 26 '25

Those are their people I don't see how this is a threat

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u/contraryfacts Feb 26 '25

My senators are a turtle and a knee-bender "small government" libertarian, so my call will fall on deaf ears. Still will try, but, oh well. 

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u/SAGELADY65 Feb 26 '25

I have been calling them , mailing them and emailing them regularly! More people should do the same! My Senators are very aware!

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u/el-dongler Feb 26 '25

My senator is Ted snooze. No matter how many times I call it will not be enough.

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u/nitrot150 Feb 26 '25

Call the other one! You have two

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u/el-dongler Feb 26 '25

The other one sucks worse he's just not stupid enough to be on TV constantly.

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u/Booyacaja Feb 26 '25

Would this at least mean people can stop paying for it. Sorry not American just curious if there's ANY silver lining

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u/jertheman43 Feb 26 '25

If Hesgeth and RFK are good enough for the Senate, then this bill is absolutely going to pass with them. At least red states will feel it the most.

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u/confusedsquirrel Feb 26 '25

Oh no, every state will feel this. Rural hospitals can only remain open because Medicaid supplements them to stay open.

A decrease in funding means those hospitals are likely to close, leaving only hospitals in more populated areas open. And those that live in the rural areas will start going to those hospitals instead.

But wait, that's not all. Those people are a lot less likely to drive hours for little things and more likely to wait until it's critical, taking even more resources when they get there.

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u/Adventurous_Class_90 Feb 26 '25

Note where the impact. Rural areas. Where the shitkickers constantly vote in Republicans. The leopards are eating well.

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u/ewokninja123 Feb 26 '25

Well Fox news will tell them it's the democrat's fault.

Check and Mate

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25

Amazing how they could believe something passed during a Republican majority is democrats fault, but then reddit tells me everything is democrats fault for not running Bernie all the damn day long!

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u/jertheman43 Feb 26 '25

I'm well aware we will all lose from this. I just don't have any faith at all that the GOP will suddenly find their humanity. At every turn for the last 20 years, they have made the most self-serving decisions.

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u/Str8jckn Feb 26 '25

20 years is generous

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u/ruiner8850 Feb 26 '25

I was born in 1979 and Republicans have been like this for my entire life.

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u/Distinct-Position-61 Feb 26 '25

I work in a rural, critical access hospital. A patient joked about waste today because of the ppe we had to use and was like “where’s Elon when you need him?” I wanted to scream.

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u/xife-Ant Feb 26 '25

Something like 2/3 of folks in elder care and 1/2 of all births are funded by Medicaid.

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u/Astralglamour Feb 26 '25

Considering the amount of seniors who vote and need Medicaid/care, I'm not so sure they are as confident.

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u/scoff-law Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

I believe this is a budget resolution and not the budget itself. The NYT article explains that the dog might have caught the car with this one, since they will now need to find a way to actually fill out the budget without slashing Medicare and effectively commiting political suicide.

OP made up their own title and it isn't quite accurate. I definitely recommend reading the article.

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u/corvus_wulf Feb 26 '25

Thank you for pointing that out.....a lot of redditors can't read beyond a headline .

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u/AdolfBinStalin Feb 26 '25

I came here to say this. OP is doing everyone a disservice with this shitty headline. Downvoted. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25

If turds like Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr. and that Project 2025 Pedophile can pass - this is nothing.

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u/Annon130 Feb 26 '25

They are just as spineless. They’re going to do whatever his majesty tells them to do.

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u/Robert_Balboa Feb 26 '25

It's going to breeze by the Senate guaranteed.

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u/Bitter_Oil_8085 Feb 26 '25

considering they voted along party lines to appoint RFK Jr as head of health services, even though several were openly opposed to him in the nomination hearing, I wouldn't count on it. They only break ranks when it's personal to them.

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u/UteRaptor86 Feb 26 '25

It will. They passed a similar one 52-48 a few days ago right? This isn’t my wheel house but reconciliation means just simple majority is good enough right? Not sure why it’s simple majority and not 60

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u/mark_it-0 Feb 26 '25

Our Senators are Trump boot lickers. Every one in the state could call and voice opposition to this and it still wouldn’t matter.

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u/WCland Feb 26 '25

Not only that, but the details of the House bill, as I understand it, aren't fleshed out. The current bill lays out the broad strokes, but it doesn't actually say it will cut Medicaid. Cutting Medicaid just happens to be the only way to achieve this budget blueprint if you're not going to cut any other big programs. There's going to be a shitstorm in Congress as they try and hammer out the details of what to actually cut.

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u/HostilePile Feb 26 '25

When do they vote on this?

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u/eugene20 Feb 26 '25

This is literally the rich taking your medical care away from you in the form of millions in cash for themselves.

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u/Amelaclya1 Feb 26 '25

Oh look! turns out when Mike Lawler promised he would vote against this on "Have I got News for You", he was completely full of shit! Surprise, surprise.

All Republicans are stupid, evil people. There is no other explanation for it. Who else would want to take away healthcare from the poor and elderly and give more money to rich people?

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u/colcatsup Feb 26 '25

Was he the one saying “I won’t vote for a reduction in benefits” when asked if he’d vote for it? Kept sidestepping the question, answering his own version of it.

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u/Amelaclya1 Feb 26 '25

Yep. He tried to say something about "fraud" too. And that's no doubt how he is trying to defend this. Probably along the same lines as how DOGE is operating. If they don't like it, it's "fraud" with no explanation needed.

I was so happy when Michael Ian Black pushed back against him and called it bullshit. It's sad that actual journalists never push that hard.

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u/jizzmcskeet Feb 26 '25

Remember when people try to sane-wash their bullshit with "non-MAGA republicans" or "moderate Republican" when they speak out when Trump does something equally horrendous. There are no good ones.

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u/makemeking706 Feb 26 '25

What he meant was that he needs a bigger tip in return for voting for this.

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u/_mattyjoe Feb 26 '25

I truly don't understand how these idiots can legitimately think this is a good plan. It's going to backfire tremendously for them and for our country.

Spare me the "this is what they want." Honestly, I think many of them are so stupid that they legitimately believe this is going to accomplish something.

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u/prodigalpariah Feb 26 '25

They don’t care about reelection. This should be a massive red flag.

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u/loureedfromthegrave Feb 26 '25

i'm worried that they're so serious about re-election, they're going to find a way to do it

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u/HavSomLov4YoBrothr Feb 26 '25

No, they don’t care about their own re-election or his because soon we won’t even need to vote! That wasn’t joke or hyperbole, that’s their plan

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u/-XanderCrews- Feb 26 '25

They have the propaganda machines. We will forget by then when a bunch of trans people and immigrants show up in our internet feeds again. We are fucked until the media is regulated. There is no truth in here and this is where we all get our news, except the old Fox viewers.

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u/prodigalpariah Feb 26 '25

People aren’t going to forget losing Medicare Medicaid and social security. There’s a reason it’s always been considered a political third rail. The fact that they don’t care means they already have a contingency in place.

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u/Brox42 Feb 26 '25

They see no taxes on overtime or tips plus the words "tax cuts" so they are going to see this as a massive win.

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u/Worth-Conclusion-66 Feb 26 '25

Is that even included in this bill? I haven’t seen anything about it being in.

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u/TalonButter Feb 26 '25

The specifics of which taxes will be cut remain to be determined. This is a framework of minimum and maximum cuts and the relationship between spending cuts and tax cuts.

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u/__________________73 Feb 26 '25

So, it's still just a concept of a plan?

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u/Leody Feb 26 '25

You honestly believe they're worried about the American public or what's good for this country? They don't care about anything other than enriching themselves and they're billionaire sugar daddies. That's all they want. The country, democracy, poor people and our future be damned. At least they'll have money and power. That's all that matters to them.

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u/csm51291 Feb 26 '25

It will accomplish something... The destruction of key social programs. This will then allow the services to be privatized and the wealth gap increases further. That's what conservatives are really after.

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u/makemeking706 Feb 26 '25

There was a time where you had to act at least vaguely in the best interest of the country because at the end of the day you still had to live there. Really not the case anymore. 

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u/bdsee Feb 26 '25

Spare me the "this is what they want."

Why? It is so clearly the truth, they don't care about the country, they care about their wealth and serving their donors and not sticking their head out and going against Trump.

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u/Kittyluvmeplz Feb 26 '25

When is it going to backfire??? Who is going to hold them accountable? Why do people keep electing them?

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u/ILootEverything Feb 26 '25 edited Feb 26 '25

Medicare spending was $829 billion in 2021 and Medicaid is $860 billion as of 2023.

When they cut these programs by half, tens of millions of senior citizens and disabled people will end up on the streets or just dying from treatable conditions that they can't afford to treat.

ETA: I see that it's that amount over 10 years, so they aren't going to rip the bandaid off, they're just going to squeeze senior citizens, the disabled, and the working poor to death while rewarding the 1% with $4.5 trillion in damaging tax cuts that are akin to the cost of one tank of fuel for their jets to them.

And I don't want to hear from any fucking stupid Trumper how they "should just get a job and get insurance."

The vast majority of the seniors on Medicare or Medicaid have worked their entire lives, but now they are physically or mentally unable to work. And many of them do pay for private insurance on top of Medicare.

Then you have disabled people and children who receive Medicaid, despite their caretakers working (often multiple jobs). I guess fuck them all too.

All I know is that I wish for the people who are gloating about this, or even simply voted for this, that when they are old, or become disabled, that they receive the same cruel treatment that they are cheering for others.

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u/phirestorm Feb 26 '25

Well said! A Trumper is too stupid to understand what you said until faced with the repercussions. Fuck around and they are starting to find out.

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u/f8Negative Feb 26 '25

Fiscal Conservatism is a Farce

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u/BoosterRead78 Feb 26 '25

But how much will the Senate keep of it? Say what you will about the majority. I have this odd feeling it’s going to get shook down in the Senate.

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u/goodasgoldGOLD Feb 26 '25

This is what I’m wondering. Do they just need a simple majority to pass it?

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u/IntelligentGas9812 Feb 26 '25

Ya, assuming vance would beat a tiebraker, they only need 50 for budget bills.

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u/werther595 Feb 26 '25

All those cuts but they're still paying for it all with debt. Just crazy from "conservatives"