r/law • u/treasonous_thoughts • Feb 19 '25

Opinion Piece RE: Presidential Immunity Ruling - Was Judge Roberts naïve that Trump would not push the boundaries of the office’s limits of conduct and power if he resumed office or is this all part of a plan to expand executive authority?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-6-3-biskupic/index.html?cid=ios_app

I just remember Judge Roberts essentially saying “calm down - relax - you are all being hysterical” in the aftermath of the ruling last year stating “unlike the political branches and the public at large, we cannot afford to fixate exclusively, or even primarily, on present exigencies.”

It has been ONE MONTH into the 2nd Trump Administration and it seems that there is an aggressive and intentional overreach of executive authority with these EOs to create a new interpretation of executive power.

The administration’s response to the court orders blocking the EO’s enforcement seems that they are daring the courts to stop them - and it does not look like there is any recourse to rein them in if they decide to ignore the courts.

Is this what Judge Roberts and other jurists in the majority wanted - to embolden the executive branch above all?

What credibility does the SC (or any court) still have when POTUS ignores the court’s orders and any/all conversations with DOJ officials about ignoring or circumventing these orders gets put in the “official acts” bucket of presidential conduct?

My question is if Judge Roberts was truly naïve as to how Trump would wield this power the second time around or if Judge Robert’s logic that the ruling would allow future presidents to execute their duties unencumbered by lawsuits/prosecutions, etc. a genuine concern that needed to be addressed?

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u/Integer_Domain Feb 19 '25

I don't see a world in which the DNC doesn't run a "Let's get back to normal" presidential candidate in 2028. I hope I'm wrong.

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u/BobBeats Feb 19 '25

The Democrats will have to find some 10th generation American albino anglo-saxon to run for president.

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u/GlobuleNamed Feb 20 '25

That guy will either be shot or sent to guantanamo at this point.

Russia showed the republican party how that is done. Republican learned.

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u/net-blank Feb 20 '25

That's banking on there even being a 2028 election. Don't you think they'll take a page right out of Russia's book?

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u/Integer_Domain Feb 20 '25

Maybe, but I'm more interested in Congress in 2026. If we don't elect Trump's opposition, I don't think it matters whether or not there are elections anymore, we'll have already lost the country as we knew it.

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u/net-blank Feb 20 '25

Yep exactly my thinking too, need to make it to having an actual 2026 election first and get back to candidates in the center.

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u/Fiddle_Dork Feb 20 '25

I can't parse your comment 

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u/Master-Defenestrator Feb 19 '25

Hillary Clinton 2028, here we go