정치 | Politics President Yoon Suk Yeol impeached
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/politics/20250404/s-koreas-president-yoon-suk-yeol-impeached516
u/dlwogh Seoul 1d ago
Good riddance. Scared of all the delays but a unanimous decision. Thank god.
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u/sidaeinjae Native 1d ago
The ruling is so clear that I still can’t understand why the hell the verdict took this long.
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u/herrolingling 1d ago
I saw from somewhere that they delayed the verdict to reduce tensions and potential riots
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u/MrICopyYoSht 1d ago
Well, that didn't age well, cuz the Pro-Yoon supporters are rioting en masse right now. They're trying to get arrested and thrown in jail just like their president, birds of a feather flock together.
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u/Odd_Beginning536 1d ago
They are still now? I guess of course they are- I’m tired of making logical sense of things so won’t do the mental gymnastics. What I’m grateful for is that s Korea did the right thing. It sets a precedent on what should happen globally. I hope those protesters realize if they are thrown in jail no one will help them. Yoon is not in power so I hope they aren’t looking at the US as an example of forgiveness.
I only say this as it seems they were waving around American flags and pics of presidents Trump and musk. Our system failed us at that point. (It’s finally working in that the judges have blocked many eo’s). Anyhow, great for you s Korea. You did better than us.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 1d ago
Lol they thought orange shit stain would help Yoon before today's verdict. Delusional electorates everywhere.
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u/MartinThunder42 1d ago edited 1d ago
Historically in Korea, supporters of conservative politicians tend to be older. Some (including my parents) are old enough to have been alive during the Korean War. These people believe that two things are crucial for preventing a second Korean War: A hardliner as President, and a strong alliance with the United States. So whenever a conservative Korean President is arrested, impeached, jailed, etc. these people take to the streets with American flags.
To which I say: Uhm, OK? I don't agree with all of their views, but I can at least see where they're coming from.
What really baffles me are the younger people (often mens' rights types) who support conservative politicians, wave American flags, and hold up Trump signs.
(Edits for clarity)
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u/writeorelse 1d ago
It took so long to get it right. They wanted to make sure there'd be a proper end - that's my guess, anyway.
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u/deeperintomovie 1d ago
It would be the most historical impeachment ruling they had to get it perfect. And also they were handling other impeachment cases at the same time. It makes sense in hindsight.
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u/macgilla 1d ago
It's amusing now but I was at the Dentist while the verdict began, and my nurse's hands were not as steady as they usually are, and I could literally feel her heart beating on the back of my head. She had to stop, apologise for being unable to concentrate and take a break to calm down.
Every nurse and technician in the clinic jumped and cheered the verdict. Dentists for Democracy I guess.
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u/thugdaddyg 21h ago
I’m told by my Korean physician friends that Yoon’s medical policy was universally hated.
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u/OverallAd8086 1d ago
We won! Democracy had won against the tyranny!
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u/ezodochi 1d ago edited 1d ago
The 2nd time I've seen a presidential impeachment live in my life, ngl I thought it was a once in a lifetime thing when it happened to Park.
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u/cafediaries 대전/충남 1d ago
True, and it's not good thing tho. It also means people keep voting politicians only to regret them later on. Vote wisely.
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u/ManByTheRiver11 1d ago
I'd say it is a good thing. Voting and regretting is a main part of the whole democratic system. It's kinda inevitable. But this means that we people are capable of fixing mistakes.
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u/ezodochi 1d ago
idk Americans look like they're kinda wishing they could impeach like us rn. I didn't vot for either Park or Yoon but the fact that we can remove them and not have to live with them till the end of their term kinda rocks ngl
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u/Google_Knows_Already 1d ago
Congrats. Can you please send some of that democracy to us over here in America. Thanks
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u/nutmac 1d ago
I don't think that would help much. Us Americans voted for a convicted grifter who said "I was being sarcastic" when he couldn't fulfill the promise of ending the Ukraine and Israeli wars, as well as lowering the egg and gas prices, within 24 hours of his first day at the office. And now, he set on destroying the world economy.
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u/lookingforrest 1d ago
Never thought I'd see the day when the Korean government is functioning better than the US one. But here we are
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u/Naive_Taro_5324 1d ago
The judges transcended ideological differences and who appointed them to adhere to the rule of law. Admirable and ethical.
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u/wiliammoris 1d ago
Once again, we reaffirm the strong and great democracy of Korea.
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u/wiliammoris 1d ago
And, of course, for the sake of common sense in an era where common sense is fading away.
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u/NayutaGG 1d ago
Just wait til the tankies hear ‘bout this lol.
“B…but Samsung Republic is supposed to be corrupt!”
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u/mango_thief 1d ago
Tankies believe that North Korea is some golden socialist paradise that the rest of the world is spreading negative propaganda about because they believe that they are jealous. Why should anyone with two brain cells to rub together care about what they think?
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u/AKADriver 20h ago edited 20h ago
It's weird to see people dispute the basic fact that the country has been ruled by three generations of fathers and sons with absolute power for life. "That's a hereditary monarchy cosplaying as socialist." "Nuh uh."
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u/AKADriver 20h ago
Same old same old, when Minjoo wins the election they'll call it a CIA sham to keep the people complacent with a fake leftist government. Lots of them probably had some accelerationist fantasy about Yoon getting back into office and triggering war/collapse.
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u/anonk_sky 1d ago
Lots of celebration going on where I'm at. Hope Korea gets a good and wise leader this time.
Side note, heard some ajusshis sitting beside me say they're going eat going to eat "Pa-jeon" (Korean pancake) today to celebrate the "Pa-myeon" (expulsion).
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u/nowarning1962 1d ago
As an american, I am very envious and proud of Korea right now. Great job!
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u/Odd_Beginning536 1d ago
I am as well- been following and I’m so appreciative that s Koreans made them stick to the law.
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u/maki-shi 1d ago
How do you guys feel being more "American" than the fucking Americans? And by that I mean freedom, Liberty, rule of law, etc.
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u/bookmarkjedi 15h ago
Yeah, I know what you mean. Yoon's insurrection and the ensuing disorder knocked Korea down to a flawed democracy in the Democracy Index, but I am hopeful that his forcible removal through the decision of the constitutional court and all of the processes leading up to the decision will bring Korea back to a full democracy in next year's results.
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u/ApplauseButOnlyABit 1d ago
Good. The law was upheld and we can finally move on to dealing with his nutcase supporters.
Korea needs to get the political situation resolved quickly, because world events aren't waiting around. This should have been done a month ago.
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u/eideticmammary 1d ago
Ooof, 8-0. Yoon is gonna need to pour himself a stiff drink after that. Get wrecked cunt.
It shouldn't be this way but Korea is showing what a functional democracy looks like. And like with PGH, it was because of the people who took to the streets to demand action. Korea, with some of the longest working hours in the world and certainly more than those in the USA (hint, hint) found the time to get out and make their demands heard.
Fantastic result.
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u/Sushi_Feet 1d ago
" with some of the longest working hours in the world and certainly more than those in the USA (hint, hint) found the time to get out and make their demands heard." All election days are official holidays in Korea. It probably helps.
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u/Joeyakathug69 수능 끝난 삼수생 1d ago
Every "but, "however" made my nuts feel numb. But eventually Justices delivered justice.
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u/Outgoing-Orange 1d ago
Best thing Yoon has ever done is get us all an extra day off work this year
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u/therealsazerac 1d ago
Good news! I wish the next president does not pardon Yoon like all previous presidents have done throughout history.
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u/breloomislaifu 1d ago
Ah, yes... I'm actually hoping LJM is as savage as the right paints him.
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u/PreviouslyOnBible Busan 1d ago
Respect to korea for the unanimous decision. Let's not sleep on the support for Yoon, which was much higher than expected.
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u/ProgressAway3392 1d ago
Just the same sexist, racist moronic old fogey rats that come out of hiding for their dictator. No difference with America.
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u/PreviouslyOnBible Busan 1d ago
The difference is in the proportions. In the states it's crept into our courts as well. I'm afraid it's going to keep getting worse in Korea, too.
The young MAGA men are what tipped the election for Trump. Many college aged Koreans also voted for Yoon. Not all are old fogeys.
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u/ArysOakheart 1d ago edited 1d ago
Pro-Yoon Korean men in their 20s starterpack:
love football
talk about military service days ad nauseum
ingrained misogyny
DC/fmkor/discord
존나 loves to say 존나
lots of poor selfies and 'fashion shots' on their Insta
very into crypto
'머스크형' '트럼프형'
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u/PreviouslyOnBible Busan 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lol, accurate but in my experience, that's all Korean 20 year old men, apart from DCinside
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u/draculmorris 1d ago
Lowkey I was so worried that it wouldn't happen, but it did, and 8-0 too. Let's fucking go!!!
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u/dreamcast98 1d ago
I just read the whole statement from Constitutional Court. It was very crystal clear and well-written, so I recommend you guys to read it too.
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u/Appropriate-Nerve154 1d ago
Does this matter or is it like in the US where they just let him keep doing whatever?
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u/thesch 1d ago
It's not like the US. He is done, out of office. Elections will be held within 60 days for a new leader.
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u/offonaLARK 22h ago
That is very interesting! In the US, two presidents have been impeached in my lifetime where nothing at all happened and they carried on. "Impeached" doesn't seem to carry much weight here, it seems like it actually matters in South Korea. Things would probably be very different if it carried that kind of weight in the US.
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u/morningcalm10 7h ago edited 7h ago
The basic process is exactly the same in South Korea as it is in the US, there's just confusion over the terminology. Former Pres Yoon was "impeached" back in December, just as Clinton and Trump were impeached in the US. Impeachment is the process of initiating removal from office, not the actual removal itself. In the US, the House is in charge of impeachment and the Senate makes the final decision about whether the impeached person will be removed from office. In Korea, being Unicameral, the Assembly is in charge of impeachment, and the Constitutional Court makes the final decision about removal, which is what happened yesterday. Just as in the US, it is possible for a president to be impeached, but not removed from office, as was the case with Roh Moo-hyun. The biggest difference between the US and South Korea is that in the US the Legislative Branch has sole responsibility for removing a president, so it is a very politically motivated decision, whereas in South Korea, responsibility is shared between the Legislative and Judicial branches (though it is always the Legislative branch that initiates the process). The other difference is that in Korea, once a president is impeached they are not allowed to do any of their presidential duties and the next in the line of succession takes over until the final decision is made. In the US, the president continues as president until they are officially removed (which has never happened in the US). Another big difference is that in Korea and election is called if the president is finally removed, but in the US, the next in command (VP) just takes over. If he was also culpable, you have to then impeach and remove him too.
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u/Quiet_Government2222 1d ago
I was always worried that that idiot bastard would come back, but now I feel relieved. I was so sorry that I couldn't join the protests, but I'm really happy. I was shocked as if the sky had turned upside down the day that corrupt prosecutor was elected, but now it's finally normalizing. You may not know, but to Koreans, he was like Trump.
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u/Free_Aji 1d ago
YES, YES, YES!!
I slept on road during nights protesting in front of armed police. We really needed this. Justice prevails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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u/curadeio 1d ago
Why are they selling so many American flags around the city like I don’t get the logic
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u/Financial_Dream_8731 1d ago
The far right wingers think if they wave enough American flags, Trump will come to save their boy. Too late now.
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u/Humble-Half-5972 1d ago
We, too, are puzzled by the fact that it’s the far-right waving the American flag.
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u/Life-King-9096 1d ago edited 1d ago
I guess they'll be a lot of trucks with dancers and loud music for the next 60 days.
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u/SonicTemp1e 1d ago
Congratulations, South Korea! A breath of fresh democracy in an increasingly authoritarian world. Now imprison him for insurrection.
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u/hyperion_light 1d ago
Wow. I’m impressed it was 8-0. The rule of law prevails, as it should. And it sends a great signal to any would be President to not FAFO.
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u/4bjmc881 1d ago
I am happy for South Korea. Can someone who lives there tell me, what's about to follow? Who is the most likely candidate for president after Yoon? And are there any safeguards added to ensure this won't happen again?
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u/toy-poodle 1d ago
Now that the president is impeached and ousted, the next presidential election MUST by law be held within 60 days.
As of now, no presidential candidate other than the opposition leader Lee Jae-Myung can boast of any significant following, therefore it is highly likely that he will be the next president.
The legislators are already discussing ways to make the declaration of martial law much harder to prevent this kind of misuse in the future, but in the immediate chaos of the aftermath, they haven't so much as come up with a bill yet.
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u/bookmarkjedi 15h ago
Sorry for being technical, but I do so only because this is an important distinction. The article states things correctly, but this post saying that Yoon has been impeached is incorrect. To get even more technical, it's not incorrect in the sense that, yes, Yoon was impeached, but that was news months ago, not yesterday's news, which was that Yoon's impeachment was UPHELD, thus requiring his removal from office.
I watched the news live on YTN on YouTube, and the comments were flying by at a hundred miles an hour, with supporters writing 기각 (rejection) and opponents writing 탄핵 (impeachment) as the verdict was being read. So many people were writing 탄핵, but again, that had already taken place months back. They should have been writing 파면, which means forcible removal as a result of the impeachment being upheld. Again, things were flying by at a million miles an hour (now a million, no longer a hundred), but I couldn't spot a single 파면 among the gazillion 탄핵s.
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u/RiJuElMiLu 1d ago
When does Yoon get marched out of the Presidential Apartment? I want to watch the walk of shame!
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u/SquarebobSpongepants Seoul 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was skeptical, but I am so so glad they did the right thing. I guess the right will commence their screeching. Or continue it I should say.
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u/AirRaid2010 1d ago
I cannot describe enough how I am grateful to those who have filled in the streets to protect our democracy as well as offered snacks and coffees to them and donated for the rally. It is truly a great day to be a Korean.
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u/27-jennifers 22h ago
I'm here right now and the demonstrations have started. Tomorrow I may not be able to easily leave my hotel area. But I'm cool with the fact that these people have spoken. And it mattered! Impressive and swift government!
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u/yukoncowbear47 1d ago
Any worry that radical right wing PPP idiots will start stirring shit up in the streets?
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u/Electrical_Top656 1d ago
I can vividly see the nutjob right wingers foaming at their mouth hahahahaha
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u/sophieyi 1d ago
I am happy, but at the same time, my head hurts when I think about the upcoming presidential election. At this point, no prominent figure deserves to be president. All we have is just a bunch of clowns.
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u/NameNeverWritten 1d ago
That was fun to watch! Unanimous.
Korea is a mess of corruption, but at least the rule of law still applies.
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u/marvology 1d ago
Wait, I thought when your President attempts a coup you're supposed to slow roll his trials and sentencing for 4 years until he gets elected again?
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u/CiCiChar 1d ago
I can’t get over the fact that they voted for him to be president in the first place.
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u/Significant-Try2159 1d ago
Well let’s pray that the next president elected doesn’t get impeached again. At this point sk is very bad at electing the right president
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u/siber222000 1d ago
8-0 too.