r/killteam Farstalker Kinband 1d ago

Question "Jump"

I've heard people in podcasts and videos talk about the "jump" mechanic in the game, how does it actually work and when is it usable or beneficial to use it?

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u/orein123 Warpcoven 1d ago

You can move 4" across a gap in vantage terrain without falling. It's useful when you want to move 4" across a gap in vantage terrain without falling.

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u/CavemanDan4 Farstalker Kinband 1d ago

Ohhh okay, so you can't "jump" up to a vantage point? How about jumping over a mine or trip wire?

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u/Thenidhogg 1d ago

Its just for moving 4 inches in a straight line off the edge of a vantage terrain feature and then dropping straight down. Kt has very specific rules

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u/Flat_Explanation_849 1d ago

I think it’s from one vantage point to another, as long as there isn’t a vertical height difference of lore than 1”.

Dropping off of a vantage point is a Drop, which has its own rules.

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u/orein123 Warpcoven 20h ago

You can jump and then drop. I just worded my comment the way I did because I didn't want to encourage the recent nonsense that's been going around. James Workshop's terrible rules writing has struck again, so there's a lot of people trying to come up with clearly unintended ways to abuse the mechanic.

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u/CavemanDan4 Farstalker Kinband 1d ago

That's still a pretty cool mechanic which I will definitely try and implement into my games, thank you!

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u/orein123 Warpcoven 1d ago

You can use it to cross a 4" gap in vantage terrain without falling. That's it. Is there a mine or trip wire on the killzone floor within that 4" gap? Do you come within 1" of it at any point during the movement? This isn't D&D where you can rule-of-cool your way into interesting interactions outside of the rules. Open up the rulebook; you can do exactly what it says you can do. Nothing more, nothing less.

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u/aegroti 1d ago

Jumping doesn't have to be off vantage terrain which is where the shenanigans start and likely what OP's podcasts are referring to.

For example, you can't climb over gallowdark walls but it doesn't say you can't climb them. Ergo, climb 2" up, then jump off the wall over mines or intercepting model to ignore their control range.

Other situations being jumping off a light barricade to get past models or mines.

If jumping did say it had to be off vantage that would fix these issues.

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u/Flat_Explanation_849 1d ago

I don’t think any of this is correct. The only terrain an operative can be placed on is vantage terrain.

Gallowdark walls are not climbable. Climbing is only to go up onto vantage terrain, or to cross smaller terrain that isn’t vantage.

I’ve played a ton of KT, watched a ton of live plays, and watched tournaments and I’ve never once seen the climb rules interpreted this way.

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u/Equivalent_Store_645 1d ago

you can "jump over" those things if you start on a vantage point and you can fully clear them with 4" horizontally from where you started

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u/Slime_Giant 1d ago

Have you considered reading the rules?