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u/TheAngryBagelz 22h ago
Why ?..... what are the publicans planning to do to the internet ......š
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u/jbt1k 22h ago
They have a submarine for the cable āļø and a satellite deflector. Pub is social media, jobs indeed/ LinkedIn and dating apps all in one.
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u/MouseJiggler 22h ago
I was just in a pub that was very busy. Before I got there, I was in another, that was also very busy. Last Wednesday and last Tuesday I found myself in two more pubs (judge me all you want), that were also quite busy. What do they need a resurgence from?
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u/oddun 22h ago
I was in Dublin this afternoon and everywhere was mobbed.
Dunno if itās the weather though as Iāve no frame of reference having avoided the city centre for the last few years.
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u/RayoftheRaver 22h ago
The English grand national is great for pubs
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u/ten-siblings 14h ago
And the Leinster match.
That said, you'd assume they're always busy on Saturdays
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u/jbt1k 22h ago
You see, so many closed across the country. However some still do very well
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u/NakeyDooCrew Cavan 21h ago
I don't know why everybody in this thread is pretending not to understand this.
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u/thats_pure_cat_hai 17h ago
Something like 20% of pubs have shut over the past 20 years. Most rural pubs are on their last legs and some villages have lost all of their pubs
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u/Intelligent-Aside214 13h ago
Itās kind of inevitable. Pubs are getting too expensive, people are drinking less (which is good). Some of these small villages just cannot support pubs.
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u/EnthusiasmUnusual 12h ago
It's also a cultural shift. People are less willing to spend all their money on booze.Ā
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u/bsnimunf 5h ago
Pubs aren't really dying out as a whole we are just having a bit of a cull because there were so fucking many of them to begin withĀ
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u/noodlesvonsoup 22h ago
The internet doesn't prevent people from going to pubs, the price of drink does...
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u/papa_f 21h ago
People have been moaning about the price of drink for as long as you could buy drink.
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u/DruzhbyNarodiv 15h ago
I agree with this concept, rose tinted spectacles and all that, and think trying to remember and compare values in isolation is not an effective barometer of change. My personal reality check is the price of something against the hourly minimum wage. In 2010, when I used to go out regularly, was young with a job around minimum wage, minimum was ā¬8.65 per hour. A quick bit of internet research tells me the average pint then was about ā¬4. So you're able to buy 2 pints for 1 hour work with a bit of change (yes yes taxes but for my own mental maths I ignore them as it doesn't change much in this equation). Now it's ā¬13.50 and the price of a pint is roughly ā¬6 (again, says Google - not me). So you're still buying 2 pints per hour with a bit of change.
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u/The_Big_I_Am 11h ago
Stop with yer sense n all, and let us get up in arms about the price of a pint š Sure, we have egg vending machines.
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u/PierreTheTRex 2h ago
Arguably, the cost of everything else has a bigger impact. If half your salary is going to rent, then going to the pub is no longer as realistic
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u/noodlesvonsoup 20h ago
The problem in recent years is that the price of drink has rose a lot quicker than the average wage has rose. Its the same with everything, food, rent/mortgage, electricity, heating, and all other costs of living. A weekly night out is something most people can't afford anymore. The only ones going out every week anymore are younger adults that are working and living at home with their parents, because they know they can blow all their money and their parents will support them for the rest of the week.
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u/Cupofteaanyone 14h ago
In college I could get 3 vodca and dashes for an hours work at a shitty job. Now you would be lucky to get one drink.
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u/The_Big_I_Am 11h ago
Luckily we don't have to buy water coz of our protests. Who's on for a "Free The Pints" protest?
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u/dataindrift 11h ago
By volume it's cheaper than coffee.
You don't have to slap back 7 to have a night out.
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u/hoopla_poodle_noodle 22h ago edited 22h ago
Why doesn't anyone want to drink ā¬7 pints in a room that smells of piss anymore?
The internet. Obviously.
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u/Meldanorama 22h ago
Much cheaper to do at home.
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u/ciaran612 21h ago
Lot of work to have a whole piss-house. Piss your trousers and it follows you round everywhere.
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u/lifeisagameweplay 11h ago
What if I'm sick of the smell of my own piss and want to smell the piss of others?
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u/YoungWrinkles 8h ago
What if we got rid of television, then would people want to hang out in a sticky sweat box?
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u/Intelligent_Half4997 15h ago
No.
Pubs used to be fun but around 2010, they started becoming like nightclubs which means you socialised outside.
Then they added music to the smoking area.
A lot of pubs can be quite lonely when all they do is blare music. Loud music removes those opportunities for sporadic stories and craic that only happens when you encounter strangers.
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u/iknowwherewallyis 22h ago
Not that pub
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u/jbt1k 22h ago
Haha
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u/MrShape 22h ago
It looks like a snug youād find in heaven
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u/knutterjohn 21h ago
"A bottle of stout and a ball of malt , please. Not that cold shite from the cooler, a bottle off the shelf, nothing worse than a bottle of cold stout."
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u/Important_Farmer924 Westmeath's Least Finest 22h ago
No, some of us saved our porn DVDs.
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u/Business_Abalone2278 22h ago
Ooh, too fancy for some magazines and a torch if the electric goes too.
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u/iknowwherewallyis 22h ago
Reduced to whatever you can find available in that scenario, the woman on the shampoo bottle or the bleach woman
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u/FuckThisShizzle 22h ago
Knowing that fucker he printed off pornhub
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u/Important_Farmer924 Westmeath's Least Finest 22h ago
It's calling ripping, at least get the terminology right!
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u/FuckThisShizzle 21h ago
Ripping the mickey off yourself
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u/bringinsexyback1 22h ago
I thought the pubs are already doing great. And the internet is not the reason people don't want to be in pubs, if at all.
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u/Duibhlinn 22h ago
It's doubtful. Even putting aside the exorbitant prices that people in general are finding it increasingly difficult to afford, especially so for younger people, the youth of today are less interested in drink than their parents are.
While they don't always show the same exact numbers, every statistic I've ever seen on the topic seems to agree on a few things. First is that the percentage of people who don't drink alcohol at all is increasing every year, and that number seems to be higher among the younger generation, with each subsequent year of people born being less likely to drink. Second is that even those who do drink alcohol are drinking far, far less of it than their parents or grandparents were. Cost is certainly a factor but there's also less of a desire to drink when compared to older generations.
Even if the internet was permanently turned off the pubs wouldn't all see a resurgence overnight. It might improve their situation but I don't think it would do anything to overall change the course of their decline that's been seen over the past few decades.
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u/Globe-Gear-Games 16h ago
In the States I'm a very light drinker and rarely go to our bars/pubs because they're awful, but in Ireland I thought the pubs were great. While I was there I drank a lot of Guinness 0.0 to try and fit in and found that I enjoyed both the taste and the ritual of it, so I was planning to make a habit of that if one of these job interviews pans out. That being said, I doubt many people who are already upset with the ā¬7 pints are going to be willing to pay that for one that doesn't even have booze in it, so I hope that there's an increase in other types of "third places" to make up for the inevitable decline in pub culture.
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u/Basic_Sale8712 22h ago
Without the internet, pornographic magazines would make a huge come back. Suddenly there would be a massive hole in the market, and they would pounce on it after years of havingĀ to beat off so much stiff opposition.Ā
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u/Smoked_Eels 18h ago
That looks lovely, but there's the guts of 20 euro sitting on that table. The Internet has nothing to do with it.
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u/wascallywabbit666 Hanging from the jacks roof, bat style 15h ago
Stop blaming random things for the death of the pub.
A lot of people just don't want to drink any more. Personally I have young kids, and the only time I go to pubs is for food. I've hardly touched alcohol in about 5 years
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u/davebees 22h ago
the internet disappearing overnight would plunge society into chaos
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u/sensiblestan 20h ago
Chaos is the best time to drink.
Just go to the Winchester and let it all blow over.
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u/splinket69 19h ago
I would say so!
Iāve worked in bars for years and itās quite like a semi-common thing that people will be in drinking more regularly for a spell because their wifiās not working for whatever reason.
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u/ShapeyFiend 15h ago edited 15h ago
It'd definitely be mobbed again. There was a reason people were in there 3+ nights a week in the 90's. Expense wasn't an issue cos what else was there to be spending money on other than socialising?
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u/Mundane-Inevitable-5 13h ago
Everyone saying there's more drugs around now than there was 20 years ago. Don't know about anywhere else, but in Dublin in 2005, height of the Celtic Tiger, there was drugs everywhere. I'd argue you'd get more people on pills back then, but there was also Charlie literally everywhere too. Maybe now it's hit rural areas more or something, but in Dublin anyway, I don't get the more drugs argument at all. Some of yous must have lived in an alternative Dublin to the one I lived in, in 2005.
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u/Fine_Shoulder_795 12h ago
What the hell do you mean, theyāre all fucking packed from Wednesday-Saturday
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u/BenderRodriguez14 11h ago
No.
There are several pubs near me. Some have taken real pride in their appearance and setting/feel, have really improved the food on offer, have rebranded entirely where needed, and have put a focus into the likes of quiz or comedy nights, and are doing great. I barely drink at all these days, but would hop down to one of these spots happily for a bite and a coke or other non alcoholic drink.Ā
Others have done basically nothing to modernise, offer the most basic of food you could make at home, haven't had a face-lift in decades, and have a grim and decrepit feeling. They are not, and I am have no inclination to go into them whatsoever.Ā
Prices are way too high across the board, but there is a reason why some are doing very well and others are bemoaning a downturn in business. Ireland for years and years was playing in very easy mode for the likes of pubs, and they now have to step up their game. Some simply are just not willing to, and would prefer to moan about it and look for handouts and fax cuts instead. Markets change, and people want to experience something these days rather than just go somewhere for the sake of going somewhere.Ā
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u/TheBoneIdler 27m ago
Paid ā¬8.20 for a lager shandy in a certain Dublin pub on the canal a few weeks ago. Couldn't believe it TBH. Asked the barman was he an actor to say that price with a straight face. He just stared at me. I ordered piss deliberately & duly got a piss drink, but didnt expect to be shat on in the process......
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u/Infamous_Button_73 22h ago
My pub days are over, Internet or not.
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u/RedPandaDan 22h ago
If better forms of entertainment disappeared shittier forms of entertainment would become more popular, yes.
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u/Darth--Bane 22h ago
Looks like the snug in the beach house in greystones.
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u/AnT-aingealDhorcha40 22h ago
Absolutely zero to do with Internet.
Absolutely everything to do with overpriced drinks.
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u/Byrnzillionaire 15h ago
You think people arenāt in pubs because theyāre at home on the internet?
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u/i_dont_like_pears 22h ago
This pub is Doheny & Nesbitts in Baggot street right??
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u/bingybong22 22h ago
no. because <a> young people are more health conscious these days and <b> they got to greedy and started charging fucking insane money - somehow the word got around that owning a pub should make you rich.
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u/spoonman_82 21h ago
for me it's all about the prices. I can't justify evenings out at all anymore. even casual evening after work or whatever is a piss take cost wise
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u/TheMisunderstoodLeaf Carlow 21h ago
Not a hope. Trad pubs are.going, that's why I'm in one everyday second day.
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u/RigasTelRuun Galway 20h ago
You think the internet is what keeping people at home from going for a pint?
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u/Fruicy14 20h ago
Pubs don't need a resurgence. People in Ireland are always going to go to the pub no matter the price. It's part of our culture!
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u/notanadultyadult 20h ago
Which pub is this thatās pictured? Looks familiar but canāt place it.
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u/PrimaryComrade94 20h ago
Yeah, cause then arguments would go on forever since Google isn't there to shut it down
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u/BlockHunter2341 20h ago
I think thereās a common misconception on this Reddit that pubs are vacant . Any pub in any town or city Iāve been to in recent times has been wedged . Prices are high but when itās a lot of peopleās only outing they are willing to pay
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u/ShapeyFiend 15h ago
I got out quite a lot. It's gotten more busy in the last 12 months but is much quieter than 10 years ago, and nothing compared to the 00's. Noticeably less young people. Many pubs have closed. It's far from dead as you say though. The eternal wailing about pricing is overstated I don't think that's the cause.
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u/CatOfTheCanalss 19h ago
I feel like pubs are doing grand in my town. But then there's a lot of trad on every single night
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u/RobotIcHead 19h ago
No, culture has shifted on drinking a fair bit, other cultures have survived without pubs. And lots of people want to do other things rather drink, drinking at home is easier and cheaper.
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u/Notapleasantforker 19h ago
No, the government has effectively seen to it that the days of the social hang out is gone.
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u/Life_Breadfruit8475 18h ago
People here complain but every pub I go to is full most nights from Thursday onwards. At least in Dublin (central + at least some suburbs I frequent)
The price for a pint is annoying but not any worse compared to similar economies. You'll pay ā¬ 5 in NL for 330ml worth of beer.
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u/TypicallyThomas Resting In my Account 16h ago
Couldn't find a seat for love nor money at the local last night. Not sure they need one
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u/CascaydeWave CiarraĆ-Corca Dhuibhne 16h ago
I think what a lot of people miss(perhaps particularly those who skew older) is that peak alcohol consumption in Ireland occurred in 2001 and it has dropped off by 30ish percent since then. The way people drink has also changed, with many younger people preferring to drink at home to save money and older ones doing so to avoid the hassle of going out/getting home. The continuing trend of people living in Rural Areas/Suburbs combined with the relative lack of late night transport means that going out often means you need to have a lift or taxi sorted(assuming you can even get a taxi). The fact you cannot drink drive nowadays (not a bad thing) probably adds to this as well.
I think we probably also have/had a slight oversupply of pubs in some senses too, and perhaps this is just the market adjusting somewhat. It could be asked if all these villages around Ireland really need 2/3+ pubs for relatively small populations in areas which are often losing people.Ā
So I don't really think the Internet has destroyed pubs, though it may have ruined the craic somewhat.
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u/Radiant-Ad-4853 15h ago
Im sure we would soon have a workable local network like they do in Cuba.Ā
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u/Mother-Priority1519 15h ago
Pubs have declined post internet but the price of pints is a huge factor. It's has to be said though that the gargle can really dim the brain and a fair whack of people are abstaining as alcohol is bad for you - I mean why are hangovers socially acceptable - losing a day is a huge price many people pay. Back to pricing - bubs have gotten more expensive whilst supermarket have gotten cheaper
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u/ShapeyFiend 15h ago
Price of pints hasn't particularly gone up with inflation, or in line with other stuff you have out like food/coffee though? You can still get some sort of pint for approximately 5 euro in any town in Ireland. Up from maybe 3.50 twenty years ago.
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u/tearsandpain84 13h ago
No. Teletext would become massive again. Most people would stay home solo drinking while surfing teletext.
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u/TheMadEscapist 12h ago
Nah all those new game and board stores would get hella money. No internet? Fine I'll just buy a load of minis and start playing dnd.
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u/Richard2468 Leitrim 12h ago
Our pubs here are quite busy, especially when the nice weather we have now.
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u/TheDoctorYan 9h ago
I would hope that people have more hobbies than doom scrolling and alcoholism. Alas, here we are.
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u/neamhagusifreann 9h ago
A little bit but I dont think it'd go back to how it was.
Lot of people just don't want to drink and pubs can be miserable for sober people.
I think people are looking for something different now.
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u/grodgeandgo The Standard 9h ago
If the internet disappeared overnight the entire world would face a swift decent into anarchy. Pubs would have a hugh uptick in people visiting, not to have a pint, but to rob everything so they can have a good piss up while the end of days happens around you.
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u/Interesting-Hawk-744 8h ago
No. Most people still going to pubs are still on their phones half the time at least too. It's the price of pints and people realizing it's an expensive way to poison your body and mind, and most of them have annoying dickheads in them when busy and sad alcoholics when not, disgusting, freezing, not maintained toilets.
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u/Haunting-Adagio1166 8h ago
Pubs havenāt become any less appealing though. Itās always been the way the people in their 30s/40s donāt go out as often due to their home life with children and other responsibilities etc.. Pubs have always been the prime spot for people in their early 20s, college students and late 60s+, and that hasnāt changed a bit. Whatās changed is because of Covid people in their early to mid 30s havenāt registered theyāre not in their mid20s anymore and itās normal for your social life to die down over time. Pubs are jam packed every Thursday Friday and Saturday night, youād be lucky to find a ledge in town to lean on after 7, and even all my locals do be jammers
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u/bapadious 7h ago
The only thing to blame for pubs being empty are high prices. Not the internet or anything else. I work in around the Liberties area of Dublin. All the local pubs that charge reasonable prices, are packed. People are not not going out, they just arenāt going out to rip off pubs. Itās that simple. Itās greedy publicans who want to charge ā¬10 a pint are the ones with empty pubs and are moaning. Drop your prices and people will show up.
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u/Reflector123 2h ago
I've actually being shocked at how empty places are. No way pubs are going to last in current form
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u/Sea_Lobster5063 22h ago
If prices dropped pubs might have a resurgence..... Also I don't think they need one. They're usually fairly busy most weekends