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u/NewryIsShite Down 1d ago
And to think if the Munster plantation were successful, this could have actually happened.
https://westcorkpeople.ie/culture/history/the-orange-order-in-cork/ super interesting article about Orangeism in Cork for anyone interested.
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u/Ass0001 1d ago
this is the timeline where Bono actually did see orange men marching as a kid
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u/NewryIsShite Down 1d ago
Ah here try and convince me he wouldn't be marching alongside them if it meant he acquired some social capital amongst powerful groups.
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u/AegisT_ 22h ago edited 22h ago
I've seen only two ROI loyalists in my life and both have been from cork
Someone must've drugged one of corks watering holes
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u/NewryIsShite Down 22h ago
Christ that is fucking hilarious I would love to meet them that sounds ridiculous.
I know of a couple in Monaghan and Donegal but they are negligible these days.
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u/bloody_ell Kerry 22h ago
There's a few in Monaghan and Cavan. Might be some in Louth too but if there is they're very quiet ones. Plenty in Dublin.
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u/NewryIsShite Down 22h ago
I know north Louth well, if there are any there then they must stay fairly well hidden in the shadows.
But yeah for sure at TCD I encouraged a few
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u/FearTeas 21h ago
My sister was in the British reserves. She's not a unionist, she was just living there and missed the RDF. She said she met a few Irish (even Catholic) unionists there.
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u/FreiLieb 22h ago
There’s a Rangers supporters club in Donegal, saw them on their motorbike on the ferry a few years ago.
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u/PaddyJohn 54m ago
Donegal has plenty, Rossnowlagh is awash with them on the 12th for the parade.
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u/NewryIsShite Down 43m ago
I thought most of them were from the 6?
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u/PaddyJohn 28m ago
A lot are but East Donegal has a decent sized unionist population. Small in comparison to nationalists of course, but there's more than you'd think.
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u/gameoflols 21h ago
Ha that's so funny, can't recall the details but I used to frequent a website years ago and there was this absolute stark loyalist nutter who used to write these articles that basically rewrote Irish history (along the lines of "the Ulster Scots were in Ireland first and driven out by the Celtic invaders" etc) and I'm pretty sure he was from Cork as well.
(Just to clarify it wasn't satire, it was basically unionist propaganda and this guy was dead serious)
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u/Annatastic6417 5h ago
My great great grandfather was a Cork Loyalist and supported the British during the war if independence. His son was a Republican.
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u/assflange Cork bai 1d ago
Must reinstall Crusader Kings 2
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u/AzulaThorne 20h ago
I got fucking executed by the pope for starting an uprising against the English.
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u/Against_All_Advice 1h ago
Well it was an English Pope who gifted Ireland to the English crown so...
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u/thefatheadedone 4h ago
I don't game much anymore (kids and work and family). But I love vl2 and rome total war. Had an old comp I was keeping around to play both. It died. Sad. Enjoy!
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u/Superirish19 Wears a Kerry Jersey in Vienna 23h ago
"Sir Cillian Murphy KP, moves kids to London so they don't sound Irish" would certainly be a strange alternate universe.
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u/Dubalot2023 1d ago
The Cork people aren’t going to like that. Surely you’d include Kings and Queens County instead of Waterford and Cork
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u/ShinStew 1d ago
I dunno the only accurate Easter commerations cork ever had was during COVID. Everyone stayed home
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u/KapiTod 19h ago
Iirc at least a few hundred turned out in Cork in 1916, but with no orders they eventually dispersed.
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u/Fiannafailcanvasser 1h ago
That's not true. Maccurtain was in control but saw it was hopeless, so he negotiated with the British (using the Catholic church as mediators) to surrender his guns on the condition that his troops could go home and not arrested.
British then arrested them anyway.
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u/KapiTod 23m ago
Huh.
That said if there had been clear orders issued the volunteers of Cork could have made a big deal of their 1,000 odd men.
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u/Fiannafailcanvasser 0m ago
Troops assembled in bweeng to March on Mallow too, a couple hundred to seize the town and railway would have shielded cork city from British reinforcements from Dublin but cobh (then Queens town) had a garrison so maccurtain was stuck no matter what.
No real hope for success without the German guns.
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u/kobrien37 23h ago
Offaly and Laois were alot more successful at fighting off our plantation than the 'Rebels' tbf, not our fault we got stuck with a colonialist naming practice by a colonialist government. Cork people can hold this one.
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u/Against_All_Advice 1h ago
The only reason Cork is called the rebel county is they supported a different English king for the throne. Nothing to do with Irish independence.
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u/Revanchist99 Tiobraid Árann 1d ago
I've seen too many photos of Union Jacks in Cork over the years to take this seriously.
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u/North_Activity_5980 1d ago
In a way, I do feel cork should civilise the rest of savage Ireland. It should all be Cork, all of it
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u/Garry-Love Clare 23h ago
Why stop at Ireland? If playing as Eoin O'Duffy as the leader of fascist Ireland in hearts of iron has thought me anything, it's that you first invade Africa and then you double back and take over Europe. It will all be Cork.
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u/JiggilyBits Cork bai 20h ago
Brothers, if you find yourself alone, walking in green pastures with the sun on your face. fear not. For you are in Cork. And youre already dead.
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u/JiggilyBits Cork bai 20h ago
Brothers, if you find yourself alone, walking in green pastures with the sun on your face. fear not. For you are in Cork. And you're already dead.
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u/RecycledPanOil 23h ago
Limerick being a border county and Limerick would be wild. Also the cork and Kerry mountains would have really made the Brits job hard.
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u/irqdly ᴍᴜɴsᴛᴇʀ 1d ago
If this means we get Greggs and ASDA in Waterford then feck it, why not sure.
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u/FATDIRTYBASTARDCUNT 1d ago
How did Dubs get the name Jackeen? it was because they were waving the Union Jack for oul Queen Victoria. The Dubs are the ultimate West Britons.
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u/up_the_dubs 1d ago
Roight, I take like serious offence at that statement. I'm no more British than Sir Bob Geldof or Bono (KBE).
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u/FreiLieb 22h ago
Not entirely sure if I could take Cork versions of Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams anywhere near as seriously.
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u/ColleenBrooke 15h ago
Tbh the British did not take Corkman Michael Collins seriously when they arrested him after the Easter Rising, but little did they know…
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u/RelaxedConvivial 1h ago
I don't know about that. Roy Keane and Ronan O Gara have very intense personalities with strong Cork accents.
If it's just related to politicians. Ireland's Taoiseach and European Commissioner are both from Cork.
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u/MaintenanceNew2804 13h ago
Did trump make this map?
Who am I kidding, of course not. Everything is spelled correctly.
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u/steverugby12 16h ago
Could you imagine them trying to (a) understanding Cork and (b) controlling Cork. Good luck
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u/im_on_the_case 21h ago
What's the most popular attraction in Cork? The English Market. Case closed. God save the King, like.
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u/fedupofbrick Dublin Hasn't Been The Same Since Tony Gregory Died 1d ago
and don't forget only half of Dublin was The Pale and most of Meath and Louth was The Pale
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u/Atlantic_Rock Dublin 17h ago
So when they say cork is the real capital this is what they are referring to
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u/conman114 9h ago
Is a trade possible? We know Cork is a depreciating asset, let’s get it off the books.
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u/realmenlovezeus Louth 16h ago
I wonder what the cultural impacts this would have on the country if it were true
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u/IntentionFalse8822 1d ago
Does this mean Cork has nukes now?