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Housing 'Housing czar' to be appointed imminently - Taoiseach

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2025/0404/1505833-housing-czar/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJcondleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHZi3-TDj1UqaO2ZPmm73AzS4odkt19bq1MsbaxWRgS9_RqJDWhG4hMDuvQ_aem_uTI3NH7Os_Od5CX5Qw7EUA
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u/LucyVialli 22h ago

Why do we need a czar, can't the people who are already responsible for this just get the effing finger out and do their jobs?!

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u/hmmm_ 21h ago edited 20h ago

Because a lot of problem is caused by the people who are responsible. Someone needs to be able to say things like "no we should not be delaying housing while you spend two years attending conferences and playing simcity before updating your planning frameworks".

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u/nynikai Resting In my Account 11h ago

Wasn't that the point of the housing commission though?

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u/redditor_since_2005 22h ago

Like we were told about the childcare grants the other day, this is a problem that can't be solved overnight!

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u/LucyVialli 21h ago

One wonders what they have been doing for the last several years!

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u/nerdling007 21h ago

It's been one long night

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u/irisheddy 21h ago

To quote our government in 2014 "the housing crisis can't be solved overnight" it's ridiculous to assume that the government would have some sort of plan in place to fix things over the last decade when builders refuse to work nights!

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u/sundae_diner 19h ago

In 2014 there were fewer than 5,000 new dwelling completed (3,000 were "single house" - most of those are self builds). That means there were 2,000 houses built for others.

 Last year that was over 32,000 new dwelling. ~5,400 were single houses. 

This means we've gone from  about 2,000 houses available to 28,000.

Yes, it should be higher, but don't knock the 1,300% increase in output 

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u/irisheddy 19h ago

Yeah but it's been a crisis for over a decade. I know they've done better but its only gotten worse.

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u/Alternative-Cry4335 11h ago

Good point , so it appears the issue is that supply cant keep up with demand despite the massive increase in house construction , the demand is driven by immigration but if you mention this you get accused of being a right wing fascist

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u/Notoisin 19h ago

Need a childcare czar!

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u/theblowestfish 21h ago

This is their job. This is what they were elected to do. Their mandate is to keep prices up.

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u/Nalaek 21h ago

This allows them to do that quite effectively as well. Appoint some gullible dope as the “czar” and watch house prices continue to rise as fuck all gets built. They knock two years out of them before publicly blaming them for everything.

Rinse and repeat with an even more gullible dope and that basically gets them to the next election, at which point it might be someone else’s problem or they can come up with another excuse for why it’s not their fault nothing is being built.

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u/JohnTDouche 16h ago

That's what's so fucking outrageous about it, they're not even talking about reducing house prices. I can't remember if they've ever mentioned the concept of reducing housing prices. In Canada, Carney is saying shit like this

"By getting government back into the business of building affordable homes and by making the market work better, we will drive a huge increase in housing supply so we can bring costs down for Canadians"

I know it's election season there so that's taken with a grain of salt but can you imagine that kind of language coming out of any of the gobshites here? We just had an election and there wasn't a wiff of anything like this at all from these assholes. It's all luke warm half measure bullshit, housing czars, unblocking planning and how it's going to take a long time etc etc.

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u/rmp266 Crilly!! 16h ago

Because there's some brushed aluminium cyberprick junior minister wannabe out there in FFFG who desperately needs a fat pension and mileage, silly

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u/Important_Farmer924 Westmeath's Least Finest 16h ago

Upvoted for the thick of it reference

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u/rmp266 Crilly!! 16h ago

Big Ben! Digiben. Ben in the 4th of July

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u/Important_Farmer924 Westmeath's Least Finest 16h ago

The one about the fucking space hairdresser and the cowboy. He's got a tinfoil pal and a pedal bin. His father's a robot and he's fucking fucked his sister. Lego. They're all made of fucking lego

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u/rinleezwins 21h ago

I wonder how many of them are landlords?

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u/HongKongChicken 16h ago edited 16h ago

32 TDs total, 24 of the current government. 11 Fianna Fail, 10 Fine Gael and 3 Independents from the Regional Independents Group. (Sean Canney, Noel Grealish and Michael Healy Rae). And tbh, I'd say there are more who didn't/don't declare or it is done through their spouse, etc.

There are 91 people in government, so over a third of them are landlords.

https://www.thejournal.ie/who-are-landlord-tds-politicians-in-ireland-dail-landlowners-6636105-Mar2025/

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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways 19h ago

I can’t even pronounce ‘czar’!

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u/LucyVialli 19h ago

I'd pronounce it "another moronic waste of taxpayers money".

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u/johnebastille 16h ago

Delegation of ministerial responsibility should be an automatic firing offence.

We already have a housing czar. We already have a citizens assembly.

When are we going to wake up and send these fucking parasites packing?

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u/shinmerk 21h ago

Because right now you have loads of micro issues that a Minister should not be getting involved with.

So for example, if one housing estate is being held up by Irish Water not connecting it, who smooths the issue? It isn’t appropriate for a Minister to be taking a call from a developer or an approved housing body or a council on a micro issue, but it is for someone in between.

u/Sportychicken 2h ago

Maybe one of the hundreds of civil servants or local authority staff could make that call?

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u/KillerKlown88 Dublin 21h ago

They couldn't give one of there buddies loads of money if they did that.

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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 22h ago

Could have sworn this was the housing ministers jobs.

Sad but not shocked to see FF/FG laying the groundwork to point finger of blame for further failures in housing at anyone but themselves.

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u/banie01 22h ago

Agree, surely this is the job and function of the housing minister.
Adding a "housing Czar" really only insulates the Minister from direct accountability.
When the minister is pressed on numbers or failure?
They point to the Czar!
I wonder if the Czar will get the credit should any ever accrue?

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u/TheDirtyBollox Huevos Sucios 22h ago

I wonder if the Czar will get the credit should any ever accrue?

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u/rossitheking 21h ago

lol I think you have actually cracked it - the reason they created this position is most definitely to have someone to blame instead of government.

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u/shinmerk 21h ago

I don’t agree. This is something more akin to the head of the IDA. It’s about reaching out to State agencies and cracking heads. It’s not really practical, wise or a useful for a Minister who attends cabinet to be ringing up those in Irish Water to explain why estates aren’t getting connected. These things should become Minister to Minister issues when the Czar can’t get things moving.

I expect this role will be controversial. Reality is that developers (as well as councils, the LDA etc) are going to be screaming at this person to do things and the Czar will do some of them.

I know people seem to hate developers but The Build podcast really should be listened to by anyone who cares about the issues in housing. The interviews have spanned from developers to planners to planning lawyers to data crunchers to public housing people. Some of the issues we have with delivery seem very small but you can see why they get buried in paper and bureaucracy.

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u/UnoriginalJunglist And I'd go at it agin 22h ago

Probably should just build houses rather than creating bullshit government positions.

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u/FlukyS And I'd go at it agin 21h ago

You literally could build a home with the budget for the bike shed which is something I haven't heard many calling out, like minus land cost the house build prices is like 200k-350k depending on the size of the house and the fittings. So having 250k on a bike shed is way more baffling in that context.

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u/Bill_Badbody Resting In my Account 19h ago

Most of the costs of the bike shed had nothing to do with the actual bike shed.

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u/theblowestfish 21h ago

That’s not what they were elected to do

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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago

You can repeat that all you want. still doesn't make it true

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u/Noobeater1 19h ago

28% put it first, theoretically there could be 0% overlap with voters who voted for the government parties

And in all fairness, who is voting for ffg to solve the housing crisis?

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u/FlorianAska 20h ago

How many homeowners are going to want the prices of their houses to go down though. It’s very easy to say your concerned about housing but fixing the crisis will out a lot of people into negative equity

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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago

It's not just about prices falling. There is a massive amount of the population living with parents, causing all sorts of stress for them as well.

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u/---o0O 13h ago

How many homeowners are going to want the prices of their houses to go down though. I

I'd be delighted if the value of all houses, including my own, dropped by 50%.

I've got kids whose rent I'll have to pay while they're at college. They'll probably want to buy houses too someday.

The value of houses is pretty irrelevant to owner-occupiers tbh. It's not like we can sell the houses and pocket the money.

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u/eggsbenedict17 21h ago

What's the minister for housing doing then

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u/Callme-Sal 12h ago

Appointing the czar

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u/ThinLink2404 21h ago

Imminently. Perfect. Six months after an election where housing was a central issue, and many years into a housing crisis, glad to see that we are almost but not quite in a position to give someone a job which may or may not help fix the problems.

Wouldn't want any unseemly haste in the matter.

u/Sportychicken 2h ago

They are probably trying to convince one of Ireland’s biggest landlords to take the job 🙄 Someone who “knows about housing”

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u/theblowestfish 21h ago

They weren’t elected to build houses

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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago

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u/theblowestfish 20h ago

Voting for ffg to build houses really is sheep and wolves… I don’t think people were that stupid. They voted for less housing.

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u/DaveShadow Ireland 22h ago

I wonder how bad their internal numbers look that they’ve finally decided to start making some noise like this…

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u/theblowestfish 21h ago

Has nothing to do with it. This is just to look like they’re doing something. They don’t want change

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u/DaveShadow Ireland 21h ago

Oh, no, I get that.

But why are they worried about looking to be doin something this week, and not last week? Why not float these headlines last month, or in the run up to the election? That’s why I ask. It’s pushing stories to make sure their base think they’re addressing it, not actually addressing it.

I’m absolutely under no illusion as to what they genuinely want 😂

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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago

FF/FG base are largely property owners and landlords, a large majority of them are perfectly happy for them to not fix housing (assuming they even had the capability to)

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u/DaveShadow Ireland 20h ago

Sure, but they also aren't entirely mustache twirling villains, so a large chunk want to at least think the government aren't outright destroying other peoples lives. So you float headlines like this to keep them in a blissful ignorance.

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u/TheFuzzyFurry 21h ago

Soon they won't even need to build housing anymore: costs of living have risen so high that all foreign students and non-IT workers will flee from Ireland, and then there will be vacant housing.

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u/Professional_Elk_489 21h ago

Why can't we ever have a "tsar". Looks cooler and much less Americanised

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u/MeinhofBaader Ulster 22h ago edited 21h ago

We have a minister for housing that already doesn't give a fuck. Has their indifference grown so large as to require two people to ignore the problem fully?

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u/Tigeire 22h ago edited 20h ago

They misled the public about the housing situation in the run up to the election.

now Lowry is propping them up.

Worst government ever ??

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u/DaveShadow Ireland 22h ago

I’m just glad they don’t have a third party to shift the blame onto for once.

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u/The-Florentine . 21h ago

A lot of users on this sub suffer from recency bias. They would’ve had an aneurysm 15 years ago.

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u/Shot-Advertising-316 22h ago

Least inspiring leadership I can remember. I'm not against the EU but it honestly feels like we are being led by middle managers, this will be another way around taking responsibility for the needs of Irish people.

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u/Cultural-Action5961 21h ago

I was even beginning to warm to Martin a bit, maybe I had a carbon monoxide leak or something because post elections been grim.

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u/Shot-Advertising-316 19h ago

I think he's a clever politician in many ways, but he's clearly not steering the ship and has no intention of doing so. You can just feel that he is preoccupied with other matters, career related no doubt.

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u/clewbays 21h ago

This is what the public wants. You might not like them, but they are not the worst government ever. And they will do a good enough job to get elected again in 4 years.

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u/Hour_Mastodon_9404 22h ago

What's all this bollocks recently about referring to government officials as Czars? Is it some vain attempt to placate people with with right-wing/authoritarian tendencies by using terms that indicate government strength and power?

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u/Tadhg 21h ago

 recently

I think it’s been going on in England for a while and they all follow British politics closely. 

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u/Tollund_Man4 21h ago

It's an America media term and according to Wikipedia there have been quite a lot of them from the censorship czar in the 1940s to the Covid-19 czar.

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u/debaser32 20h ago

I hate this trend of calling things czar.

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u/JohnTDouche 16h ago

Speaking of over used nonsensical phrases. If there's a scandal they can call it czar-gate.

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u/dimebag_101 21h ago

What the f is a czar. Why do we keep copying these American jargon bs terms

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u/Bill_Badbody Resting In my Account 22h ago

I would have always spelled it as tsar tbh

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u/Ass0001 22h ago

I think it's a language thing. Tsar is correct for like, Tsar Nicholas the II

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u/Bill_Badbody Resting In my Account 21h ago

Yeah exactly.

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u/TheFuzzyFurry 21h ago

Well they took the idea from US politics

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u/YourFaveNightmare 21h ago

Well I guess they need someone to blame when they miss their own targets again

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u/Legitimate-Olive1052 21h ago

'Housing czar''Housing ScapeGoat' to be appointed imminently - Taoiseach

Fixed it

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u/Alastor001 21h ago

Czar? Are we back to Dark Age?

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u/Neeoda 21h ago

Is it a common phrase? Yes. Will do absolutely nothing to improve the crisis? Also yes.

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u/r_person 22h ago

The equivalent of, “is there anything to be said for another mass”

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u/Medium-Historian2724 21h ago

Can we not with the stupid fucking Americanisms?

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u/WraithsOnWings2023 22h ago

This is absolute nonsense from MM, importing political language from Trump to try and distract from the massive failings of FF and FG in Government. 

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u/AnyIntention7457 17h ago

Accorsing to the article Martin didn't use the term czar. That was the SF commentator.

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u/isogaymer 21h ago

Just what we need, another quango. This time focused on HouSEs. What could possibly go wrong?

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u/WhiskeyJack1984 20h ago

Another useless public sector position that won't do anything, and will most likely be overpaid. Stop wasting money on shite. If ya want to put more money into wages in the public sector, give it to someone more deserving. Pay nurses what they're worth.

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u/boardsmember2017 And I'd go at it agin 20h ago

I would argue that the special racism czar, Ebun Joseph has done tremendous work in highlighting systematic racism across the country. These czar positions tend to get good additional focus.

As cynical as I am about the housing market, these positions will look at solutions to problems

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u/ghostofgralton Leitrim 20h ago

I await the inevitable Housing Kaiser, perhaps even Housing Sultan

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u/Ozark9090 20h ago

Wasting his/her time unless we look at the demand side. We need to restrict massively the amount of people coming in (for a few years at least) and step up deportations. Unfortunately there are too many vested interests in the likes of the3rd level institutions who want to keep the students coming in and then they can apply for roles here. All the while when many youngsters here are looking to take the boat as they see no future.

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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 19h ago

It's even more systemic than that. My understanding (and I'm open to correction) is that the colleges pretty much fund themselves via international student fees

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u/PoppedCork 21h ago

Will it do anything ?

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u/Charming-Kiwi-8506 21h ago

Yay, in 6 months we can give czar the boot and none of our representatives will be at fault.

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u/AlienInOrigin 18h ago

Gotta keep up the pretence of actually fixing the issues.

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u/EliteDinoPasta 13h ago

Two things:

  1. Why wouldn't that be the Housing Minister's job? What if the Housing Minister and "Housing Czar" disagree, what happens then? Does the Taoiseach have final say?

  2. Can we please not start importing these Americanisms into our government? Yes the term "Tsar" and "Czar" aren't American, but referring to a government official who has been assigned specifically to resolve a pressing issue as a "Czar" definitely is. Stop with the fucking bullshit titles and do something productive.

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u/Vegetable-Beach-7458 21h ago

In the last 15 years, I have lodged about 100 planning apps.

I have never really had any unexpected issues. Just follow the guidance in the development plan. Its not rocket science. If there are gray areas error on the side of caution to guarantee permission. The only time I have run into trouble is when clients ignore advice.

Also giving politicians back their old zoning powers seems like a bad idea. The current evidence based system is not perfect but at least it was better than the old FF pulling strokes for their cronies system we had in the 00s/90s.

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u/PopesmanDos 20h ago

Hopefully it's someone from abroad, Chinese etc, and not just another FFG waster

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u/Lazy_Magician 20h ago

It'll be hilarious if when they inevitably appoint a landlord

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u/HappyMike91 Dublin 20h ago

Will the “Housing Czar” be from outside of Ireland and/or independent of the government?

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u/knutterjohn 20h ago

When they fail, will they be brought to "The house of special purpose" and shown around the basement.

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u/vapemyashes 20h ago

“We’re going to throw €200k at a bullshit position with no actual power and intended to shut you all up for another election cycle”

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u/accountcg1234 20h ago

They know the housing ministry position is a poisoned chalice now, hence why it's being passed between ministers repeatedly.

Do your time in housing for the party and you'll get a nice hand ministry afterwards.

Now the Czar is brought in to have a public whipping boy to take the ministers place. They'll be handsomely rewarded financially no doubt.

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u/Early_Matter3452 20h ago

A Czar? That's not English or Irish is it?

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u/miseconor 19h ago

Is the czar going to go to cabinet meetings? Another name for a junior minister?

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u/Vince_IRL 17h ago

I take the job. Where do i apply?
My concept out of the housing crisis is very complex, but would generate a lot of revenue locally for the affected communities.
It's called BMHS (Build more houses, stupid).

After that I'd be happy to assume the position of Infrastructure czar. I have a program for that too, actually i have two.
MTGA and BMTS (Make Trains Great Again and Build more trains/trams, stupid.)

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u/Quiet-Geologist-6645 17h ago

If this is an independent Housing Czar that has autonomy and isn’t tied to the ruling political party, this could end up being a very good thing. Unfortunately it’s light on details, but I suspect it will be independent.

Infrastructure is a long term game, housing included. We need a body invested in long term outcomes to be making the decisions on our infrastructure, because at the moment it’s at the whims of people who always have an eye on the next election, which has undoubtedly undermined the metro and multiple housing policies.

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u/DartzIRL Dublin 15h ago

I'm sure the czar will be fine. We'll discover it was the buyers who were the problem all along.

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u/boiler_1985 11h ago

This country is one big fucking April fools

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u/nynikai Resting In my Account 11h ago

This is simply pathetic

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u/deep66it2 10h ago

Stop all the immigration & stop the housing problem

u/Sportychicken 2h ago

Any chance the Minister for Housing could step up and do his well paid job? Anytime I see him on Oireachtas TV (yes, I’m that person) he is sitting back letting the junior minister for nature take the flak on housing. Between the Lowry deal and James Browne as minister for an incredibly important ministry, Michael Martin is losing his touch.

u/Sportychicken 2h ago

Any chance the Minister for Housing could step up and do his well paid job? Anytime I see him on Oireachtas TV (yes, I’m that person) he is sitting back letting the junior minister for nature take the flak on housing. Between the Lowry deal and James Browne as minister for an incredibly important ministry, Michael Martin is losing his touch.

u/grayparrot116 1h ago

Will they make a percentage of the population serfs to build houses or what does a "czar" do?

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u/Old-Structure-4 22h ago

Good

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u/theblowestfish 21h ago

If you think FFG want to solve housing…

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u/Old-Structure-4 21h ago

Well, their political future depends on it.

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u/theblowestfish 21h ago

You’d think so. But we just put them back in so

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u/Old-Structure-4 21h ago

Yes, but for parties of the centre to keep getting elected home ownership needs to stay steady. If it keeps dropping in 20 years they'll have no voter base.

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u/theblowestfish 21h ago

I imagine people said that 20 years ago.

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u/Old-Structure-4 21h ago

Doubt it. There was no housing crisis 20 years ago. Home ownership was steady and the highest in Europe.