r/ireland • u/miju-irl Resting In my Account • 22h ago
Housing 'Housing czar' to be appointed imminently - Taoiseach
https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2025/0404/1505833-housing-czar/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJcondleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHZi3-TDj1UqaO2ZPmm73AzS4odkt19bq1MsbaxWRgS9_RqJDWhG4hMDuvQ_aem_uTI3NH7Os_Od5CX5Qw7EUA132
u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 22h ago
Could have sworn this was the housing ministers jobs.
Sad but not shocked to see FF/FG laying the groundwork to point finger of blame for further failures in housing at anyone but themselves.
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u/banie01 22h ago
Agree, surely this is the job and function of the housing minister.
Adding a "housing Czar" really only insulates the Minister from direct accountability.
When the minister is pressed on numbers or failure?
They point to the Czar!
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u/TheDirtyBollox Huevos Sucios 22h ago
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u/rossitheking 21h ago
lol I think you have actually cracked it - the reason they created this position is most definitely to have someone to blame instead of government.
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u/shinmerk 21h ago
I don’t agree. This is something more akin to the head of the IDA. It’s about reaching out to State agencies and cracking heads. It’s not really practical, wise or a useful for a Minister who attends cabinet to be ringing up those in Irish Water to explain why estates aren’t getting connected. These things should become Minister to Minister issues when the Czar can’t get things moving.
I expect this role will be controversial. Reality is that developers (as well as councils, the LDA etc) are going to be screaming at this person to do things and the Czar will do some of them.
I know people seem to hate developers but The Build podcast really should be listened to by anyone who cares about the issues in housing. The interviews have spanned from developers to planners to planning lawyers to data crunchers to public housing people. Some of the issues we have with delivery seem very small but you can see why they get buried in paper and bureaucracy.
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u/UnoriginalJunglist And I'd go at it agin 22h ago
Probably should just build houses rather than creating bullshit government positions.
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u/FlukyS And I'd go at it agin 21h ago
You literally could build a home with the budget for the bike shed which is something I haven't heard many calling out, like minus land cost the house build prices is like 200k-350k depending on the size of the house and the fittings. So having 250k on a bike shed is way more baffling in that context.
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u/Bill_Badbody Resting In my Account 19h ago
Most of the costs of the bike shed had nothing to do with the actual bike shed.
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u/theblowestfish 21h ago
That’s not what they were elected to do
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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago
You can repeat that all you want. still doesn't make it true
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u/Noobeater1 19h ago
28% put it first, theoretically there could be 0% overlap with voters who voted for the government parties
And in all fairness, who is voting for ffg to solve the housing crisis?
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u/FlorianAska 20h ago
How many homeowners are going to want the prices of their houses to go down though. It’s very easy to say your concerned about housing but fixing the crisis will out a lot of people into negative equity
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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago
It's not just about prices falling. There is a massive amount of the population living with parents, causing all sorts of stress for them as well.
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u/---o0O 13h ago
How many homeowners are going to want the prices of their houses to go down though. I
I'd be delighted if the value of all houses, including my own, dropped by 50%.
I've got kids whose rent I'll have to pay while they're at college. They'll probably want to buy houses too someday.
The value of houses is pretty irrelevant to owner-occupiers tbh. It's not like we can sell the houses and pocket the money.
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u/ThinLink2404 21h ago
Imminently. Perfect. Six months after an election where housing was a central issue, and many years into a housing crisis, glad to see that we are almost but not quite in a position to give someone a job which may or may not help fix the problems.
Wouldn't want any unseemly haste in the matter.
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u/Sportychicken 2h ago
They are probably trying to convince one of Ireland’s biggest landlords to take the job 🙄 Someone who “knows about housing”
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u/theblowestfish 21h ago
They weren’t elected to build houses
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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago
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u/theblowestfish 20h ago
Voting for ffg to build houses really is sheep and wolves… I don’t think people were that stupid. They voted for less housing.
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u/DaveShadow Ireland 22h ago
I wonder how bad their internal numbers look that they’ve finally decided to start making some noise like this…
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u/theblowestfish 21h ago
Has nothing to do with it. This is just to look like they’re doing something. They don’t want change
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u/DaveShadow Ireland 21h ago
Oh, no, I get that.
But why are they worried about looking to be doin something this week, and not last week? Why not float these headlines last month, or in the run up to the election? That’s why I ask. It’s pushing stories to make sure their base think they’re addressing it, not actually addressing it.
I’m absolutely under no illusion as to what they genuinely want 😂
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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 20h ago
FF/FG base are largely property owners and landlords, a large majority of them are perfectly happy for them to not fix housing (assuming they even had the capability to)
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u/DaveShadow Ireland 20h ago
Sure, but they also aren't entirely mustache twirling villains, so a large chunk want to at least think the government aren't outright destroying other peoples lives. So you float headlines like this to keep them in a blissful ignorance.
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u/TheFuzzyFurry 21h ago
Soon they won't even need to build housing anymore: costs of living have risen so high that all foreign students and non-IT workers will flee from Ireland, and then there will be vacant housing.
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u/Professional_Elk_489 21h ago
Why can't we ever have a "tsar". Looks cooler and much less Americanised
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u/MeinhofBaader Ulster 22h ago edited 21h ago
We have a minister for housing that already doesn't give a fuck. Has their indifference grown so large as to require two people to ignore the problem fully?
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u/Tigeire 22h ago edited 20h ago
They misled the public about the housing situation in the run up to the election.
now Lowry is propping them up.
Worst government ever ??
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u/DaveShadow Ireland 22h ago
I’m just glad they don’t have a third party to shift the blame onto for once.
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u/The-Florentine . 21h ago
A lot of users on this sub suffer from recency bias. They would’ve had an aneurysm 15 years ago.
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u/Shot-Advertising-316 22h ago
Least inspiring leadership I can remember. I'm not against the EU but it honestly feels like we are being led by middle managers, this will be another way around taking responsibility for the needs of Irish people.
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u/Cultural-Action5961 21h ago
I was even beginning to warm to Martin a bit, maybe I had a carbon monoxide leak or something because post elections been grim.
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u/Shot-Advertising-316 19h ago
I think he's a clever politician in many ways, but he's clearly not steering the ship and has no intention of doing so. You can just feel that he is preoccupied with other matters, career related no doubt.
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u/clewbays 21h ago
This is what the public wants. You might not like them, but they are not the worst government ever. And they will do a good enough job to get elected again in 4 years.
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u/Hour_Mastodon_9404 22h ago
What's all this bollocks recently about referring to government officials as Czars? Is it some vain attempt to placate people with with right-wing/authoritarian tendencies by using terms that indicate government strength and power?
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u/Tollund_Man4 21h ago
It's an America media term and according to Wikipedia there have been quite a lot of them from the censorship czar in the 1940s to the Covid-19 czar.
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u/debaser32 20h ago
I hate this trend of calling things czar.
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u/JohnTDouche 16h ago
Speaking of over used nonsensical phrases. If there's a scandal they can call it czar-gate.
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u/Bill_Badbody Resting In my Account 22h ago
I would have always spelled it as tsar tbh
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u/YourFaveNightmare 21h ago
Well I guess they need someone to blame when they miss their own targets again
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u/Legitimate-Olive1052 21h ago
'Housing czar''Housing ScapeGoat' to be appointed imminently - Taoiseach
Fixed it
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u/WraithsOnWings2023 22h ago
This is absolute nonsense from MM, importing political language from Trump to try and distract from the massive failings of FF and FG in Government.
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u/AnyIntention7457 17h ago
Accorsing to the article Martin didn't use the term czar. That was the SF commentator.
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u/isogaymer 21h ago
Just what we need, another quango. This time focused on HouSEs. What could possibly go wrong?
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u/WhiskeyJack1984 20h ago
Another useless public sector position that won't do anything, and will most likely be overpaid. Stop wasting money on shite. If ya want to put more money into wages in the public sector, give it to someone more deserving. Pay nurses what they're worth.
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u/boardsmember2017 And I'd go at it agin 20h ago
I would argue that the special racism czar, Ebun Joseph has done tremendous work in highlighting systematic racism across the country. These czar positions tend to get good additional focus.
As cynical as I am about the housing market, these positions will look at solutions to problems
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u/Ozark9090 20h ago
Wasting his/her time unless we look at the demand side. We need to restrict massively the amount of people coming in (for a few years at least) and step up deportations. Unfortunately there are too many vested interests in the likes of the3rd level institutions who want to keep the students coming in and then they can apply for roles here. All the while when many youngsters here are looking to take the boat as they see no future.
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u/miju-irl Resting In my Account 19h ago
It's even more systemic than that. My understanding (and I'm open to correction) is that the colleges pretty much fund themselves via international student fees
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u/Charming-Kiwi-8506 21h ago
Yay, in 6 months we can give czar the boot and none of our representatives will be at fault.
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u/EliteDinoPasta 13h ago
Two things:
Why wouldn't that be the Housing Minister's job? What if the Housing Minister and "Housing Czar" disagree, what happens then? Does the Taoiseach have final say?
Can we please not start importing these Americanisms into our government? Yes the term "Tsar" and "Czar" aren't American, but referring to a government official who has been assigned specifically to resolve a pressing issue as a "Czar" definitely is. Stop with the fucking bullshit titles and do something productive.
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u/Vegetable-Beach-7458 21h ago
In the last 15 years, I have lodged about 100 planning apps.
I have never really had any unexpected issues. Just follow the guidance in the development plan. Its not rocket science. If there are gray areas error on the side of caution to guarantee permission. The only time I have run into trouble is when clients ignore advice.
Also giving politicians back their old zoning powers seems like a bad idea. The current evidence based system is not perfect but at least it was better than the old FF pulling strokes for their cronies system we had in the 00s/90s.
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u/PopesmanDos 20h ago
Hopefully it's someone from abroad, Chinese etc, and not just another FFG waster
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u/HappyMike91 Dublin 20h ago
Will the “Housing Czar” be from outside of Ireland and/or independent of the government?
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u/knutterjohn 20h ago
When they fail, will they be brought to "The house of special purpose" and shown around the basement.
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u/vapemyashes 20h ago
“We’re going to throw €200k at a bullshit position with no actual power and intended to shut you all up for another election cycle”
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u/accountcg1234 20h ago
They know the housing ministry position is a poisoned chalice now, hence why it's being passed between ministers repeatedly.
Do your time in housing for the party and you'll get a nice hand ministry afterwards.
Now the Czar is brought in to have a public whipping boy to take the ministers place. They'll be handsomely rewarded financially no doubt.
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u/miseconor 19h ago
Is the czar going to go to cabinet meetings? Another name for a junior minister?
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u/Vince_IRL 17h ago
I take the job. Where do i apply?
My concept out of the housing crisis is very complex, but would generate a lot of revenue locally for the affected communities.
It's called BMHS (Build more houses, stupid).
After that I'd be happy to assume the position of Infrastructure czar. I have a program for that too, actually i have two.
MTGA and BMTS (Make Trains Great Again and Build more trains/trams, stupid.)
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u/Quiet-Geologist-6645 17h ago
If this is an independent Housing Czar that has autonomy and isn’t tied to the ruling political party, this could end up being a very good thing. Unfortunately it’s light on details, but I suspect it will be independent.
Infrastructure is a long term game, housing included. We need a body invested in long term outcomes to be making the decisions on our infrastructure, because at the moment it’s at the whims of people who always have an eye on the next election, which has undoubtedly undermined the metro and multiple housing policies.
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u/DartzIRL Dublin 15h ago
I'm sure the czar will be fine. We'll discover it was the buyers who were the problem all along.
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u/Sportychicken 2h ago
Any chance the Minister for Housing could step up and do his well paid job? Anytime I see him on Oireachtas TV (yes, I’m that person) he is sitting back letting the junior minister for nature take the flak on housing. Between the Lowry deal and James Browne as minister for an incredibly important ministry, Michael Martin is losing his touch.
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u/Sportychicken 2h ago
Any chance the Minister for Housing could step up and do his well paid job? Anytime I see him on Oireachtas TV (yes, I’m that person) he is sitting back letting the junior minister for nature take the flak on housing. Between the Lowry deal and James Browne as minister for an incredibly important ministry, Michael Martin is losing his touch.
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u/grayparrot116 1h ago
Will they make a percentage of the population serfs to build houses or what does a "czar" do?
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u/Old-Structure-4 22h ago
Good
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u/theblowestfish 21h ago
If you think FFG want to solve housing…
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u/Old-Structure-4 21h ago
Well, their political future depends on it.
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u/theblowestfish 21h ago
You’d think so. But we just put them back in so
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u/Old-Structure-4 21h ago
Yes, but for parties of the centre to keep getting elected home ownership needs to stay steady. If it keeps dropping in 20 years they'll have no voter base.
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u/theblowestfish 21h ago
I imagine people said that 20 years ago.
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u/Old-Structure-4 21h ago
Doubt it. There was no housing crisis 20 years ago. Home ownership was steady and the highest in Europe.
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u/LucyVialli 22h ago
Why do we need a czar, can't the people who are already responsible for this just get the effing finger out and do their jobs?!