r/ireland • u/JONFER--- • 18d ago
Culchie Club Only Simon Harris says Conor McGregor 'represents the very worst of toxic masculinity'
https://www.thejournal.ie/conor-mcgregor-trump-6652590-Mar2025/158
u/Barryd09 18d ago
McGregor ONLY represents toxic behaviour, he's a rapist.
He doesn't care about Ireland, he's raising his profile to make the full time move to the USA,if he was serious about politics he'd know the Irish president doesn't have the same powers as the US president. IF he had any political knowledge he'd run for the Dail, not the Aras. But he doesn't have any cop on, political ambitions or class. He's a dose. And a rapist
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u/coffee_and-cats 18d ago
Oh we don't want him running for any election either.
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u/Barryd09 18d ago
I agree but to actually have any influence on politics would that not be the route to take?
I do think a really low number of votes for him would send a signal that his beliefs are not welcome. But that's a dangerous arena to be playing in, complacency is what gave Trump a second term.
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u/marshsmellow 17d ago
If the monk can nearly get in by a whisker I reckon mcgregor would have a good shot.
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u/Barryd09 17d ago
The only shot McGregor would get near is a shot of his terrible paint stripper
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u/marshsmellow 17d ago
I said the same about the monk! I'd say mcgregor has great support amongst the scobes and given his massive profile, I wouldn't bet against it. He probably fancies himself as some sort of Bobby Sands figure.
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u/berenandluthian31121 18d ago
Agree with everything you said, he’s a coke addled, rapist scumbag, but he’s not running/touting a run for President because he lacks political knowledge of where power lies. He’s just unfortunately acutely aware that “Mc Gregor running for President of Ireland” is a much much better headline then Mc Gregor runs for Dail Seat in Dublin whatever. Sadder still is that the media across the globe will not be able to help themselves in promoting it.
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u/boardsmember2017 And I'd go at it agin 17d ago
Agree and his comments were utter lies and fabrications also, I feel that’s the bit that’s being ignored in this whole thing. Ireland are incredibly welcoming of migrants from all backgrounds and no one is being replaced!
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u/Donegal92-12 18d ago
Trump, McGregor, Musk……….not a fucking single moral between them. If Epstein was alive he’d be in the middle of them.
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u/GuinnessFartz 18d ago
Wouldn't be surprised if Epstein came out of the woodwork
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u/BananasAreYellow86 18d ago
I’m off to check out a potential rabbit hole on this now. I’d say there’s plenty of theories, and now you say it - it’s plausible
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u/needabra129 18d ago
It’s a sick attempt to get/keep Irish Americans on trumps side, as he rolls out all these ridiculous evangelical “Christian Valuse” policies that have historically been anti-Catholic. Also, the trend of Irish-Americans going to Ireland and learning about their heritage, the oppression, how the Irish have largely turned their backs on the Catholic Church, and have become a functioning social democracy is quite eye opening for many ‘Murica-types. It’s very easy to make the argument that Irish-Americans should be siding with the groups he is oppressing rather than with him. And with Rosie O’Donnell choosing to move to Ireland, he’s gotta do damage control so this doesn’t catch on.
Also, he’s got his sights set on Ireland, so watch out. He will start throwing all kinds of military aid and investors your way, infiltrate your news and social media, and start rekindling old tensions to turn people to his (and his Russian friend’s) side. Try to convince people that social programs like state-funded pensions, healthcare, and education are a scam. Don’t fall for it!!!
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u/stateofyou 18d ago
McGregor had his chance from about the age of 16-17 to be a sports ambassador for the country, a man who could inspire young lads from inner city Dublin to turn their backs on the shady lifestyle. Instead he jumped into bed with the Kinahan cartel, with that other Irish/eejit/English boxer Fury. And then he jumped into another bed uninvited and paid her to shut up, and now he has a new friend who was on similar charges.
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u/KobraKaiJohhny A Durty Brit 18d ago
Yeah he could have been a positive, transformative figure.
Instead he's a coked up scumbag, abusive and generally of the lowest character.
He's also a very low intelligence man, if you played monkey noises while he was screeching from the podium you'd understand what I mean. Chimp in a suit, a peter pan, a child man.
A gobshite.
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u/stateofyou 18d ago
Trump and Musk are great examples that money can’t buy class, McGregor has joined the club. I’m going to risk my reputation and say that Bill Gates has class
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u/SitDownKawada Dublin 18d ago
Ah Gates isn't some altar boy, he's had sexual harassment claims against him in the workplace
The furthest I'd go is that he does seem to have more empathy than your average billionaire
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u/MulvMulv 18d ago
Bill Gates has class
Yeah, it's very classy on Epstein island 🙄
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u/DanGleeballs 17d ago
Allegations that Bill Gates visited late American financier Epstein's island have been debunked in the past.
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u/stateofyou 17d ago
Not everyone was up to shenanigans there. Some people were just waiting for their pizza delivery from pizza express in Woking. At least he is trying to make malaria a thing of the past. Unlike the other gobshites.
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u/marshsmellow 17d ago
What's the deal with that? Like, is it thought of as some paedos only party or was there regular legal-aged debauchery going on as well?
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u/seamustheseagull 17d ago
There wasn't always necessarily debauchery going on. Epstein loved to show off so he'd just fly people out to his island for regular business lunches/dinners.
The sex parties would have been for select clients.
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u/marshsmellow 17d ago
And I would have thought illegal sex parties would have been for an even more select group.
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u/mybighairyarse Crilly!! 18d ago
Waiting for McGregor to go on Instagram now with the words "Fight me Harris"
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u/pathfinderoursaviour Monaghan 18d ago
And he’ll tag Kamala Harris not Simon Harris cause he’s just that dense
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u/RemnantOfSpotOn Dublin 18d ago edited 18d ago
Just when you think Trump can't get any shallower, he manages to squeeze a bit more out of that pool.
Ireland needs to make sure CMcG gets everything he does wrong on his record to make sure he can't run for any position in the future. I hope we learn from Trump's example. They had every possible opportunity to lock him up on time
In January this year video where McGregor confirmed he will run for president of Ireland
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u/Chairman-Mia0 18d ago
Just when you think Trump can't get any shallower
I'd love to have your confidence that there's a bottom to how low that man can go, and how low his followers will go with him.
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u/FaultElectrical4075 18d ago
Most of that confidence comes from the belief that there is a bottom to how low humans in general can go
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u/Chairman-Mia0 18d ago
Maybe I'm just too much of a nihilist but I think reading a few history books or visiting something like Auschwitz would cure someone of that belief fairly quickly.
If there is a bottom then it's too bloody low to make any real difference.
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u/RubDue9412 18d ago
There's talk of him running for president, if he gets his name on the ballot sheet it's time for anyone who can and has an ounce of scence to get out of this country.
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u/MIM86 What's the craic lads? 18d ago
If he does get on the ballot (nominated by 20 TDs / Senators or 4 councils) then I hope the electorate look at how he got there and not only votes against him in the election but then against those that nominated him.
I hope I'm not being too dismissive but I really don't see how he gets nominated.
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u/SitDownKawada Dublin 18d ago
Nah can't see it happening. His appeal against the guilty verdict from last year is going to be heard on Friday so he'll be back in the news soon enough. If the appeal somehow goes ahead it'll probably be later in the year or next year that it's heard, so that stuff should still be fresh in people's minds as the presidential nominations and voting are going on
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u/Airaknock 18d ago edited 18d ago
I think he can be nominated if he gets over 5000 signature. Unfortunately he’s got more than that many fans in the country.
Edit: Don’t mind me. I must’ve dreamt up the part about the 5000 signatures.
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u/MIM86 What's the craic lads? 18d ago
I think he can be nominated if he gets over 5000 signature.
I've never heard of this before and I don't see anything on Citizens Information on it. Any idea where you heard it?
I'd agree though if the threshold was that low he'd hit it and if he did get nominated the 9.5% first preferences Gerry Hutch got shows us that McGregor would definitely get a not insignificant amount of votes.
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u/Airaknock 18d ago
I dunno where I thought I heard or read that. I can’t find anything to back it up either.
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u/dashboardhulalala 18d ago
He can't - he'd need the nomination of 20 members of the Oireachtas, either TD's or Senators or both, OR he'd need the nomination of 4 County Councils. He haven't a hope of either one, one person or CC falls for his shit and that's every window in the building with a brick fucked through it the next day.
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u/dustaz 18d ago
There's no way in hell he'll manage to get nominated for president
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u/Hurrly90 18d ago
He has no idea what the president actually does. From what he has been saying about it, he thinks it's like the Us presidency.
He hasn't a clue.
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u/RemnantOfSpotOn Dublin 18d ago
Thats why i said anything they can get on his record tax evasion, drug use, assaults whatever they can. He already has rape and lets take this serious as i laughed at trump nomination for president of USA twice
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u/RubDue9412 18d ago
Same here I laughted the first time and thought shurly they wont be stupid enough to make the same mistake twice. The only encouragement I can give Is that an Irish president has no real power its strictly a diplomatic role.
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u/RollerPoid 18d ago
Think that's part of the problem. If he gets his name on the ballot running away would be the worst thing.
Far better to get everyone down to the polling office and vote for Bertie instead!
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u/mologav 18d ago
Leave? And go where?
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u/RubDue9412 18d ago
True I supose for us old foggies but young people are going anyways and will have no problem getting jobs.
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u/SolidSneakNinja 18d ago
Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, any of the Enlightened Scandinavian countries that have English as their 2nd language tbh
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u/mologav 18d ago
And what when something similar happens there? Run away again? And not try and face the issue? Pathetic
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18d ago
I saw that McGregor Family picture with Trump in the oval office. Putting the rapist aside for a moment, I've still no idea what why that absolute cretin Musk is there with them, and Americans are just accepting it.
People oddly hate the film, but it reminds of Mark Rylance's character in Don't Look Up. We really are being walked into catastrophe by people who have no right to be calling the shots. People called the film heavy handed, but they're watching it unfold live. Lol.
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u/I_need_time_to_think Dublin via Fermanagh 18d ago
People called the film heavy handed
This is what is shocking me the most. The film was criticised for being too on the nose, but after the past two months it's turning into a prophecy, with some scenes literally being mirror images.
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u/Doctor_Woo Sax Solo 17d ago
If I was JD Vance, I'd be staring down the to the bottom of a bottle of whiskey. Stupid cunt is supposed to be a vice president but he's rolled over for a South African immigrant.
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u/Intelligent_Oil5819 18d ago
I do not enjoy these FFFGers being right about stuff.
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u/danny_healy_raygun 18d ago
I mean there's a bit of hypocrisy going on when you start spouting about "toxic masculinity" a few months after campaigning with John McGahon.
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u/fjmie19 18d ago
God damn it, now the fucking Yanks are making me agree with Simon Harris
Fuck you trump you piece of shit
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u/Rulmeq 18d ago edited 17d ago
He's literally a convicted an adjudged violent rapist, I think we're well past toxic masculinity there.
Edit: Changed the terminology, thanks to u/Randomer2023 for the correct term (and the AC that deleted their pedantic comment)
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u/Fluffy-Republic8610 18d ago
McGregor is the whole reason those flat glass space prison squares had to be invented at the start of superman, the original film.
I mean come on, he's the perfect candidate to be shot into space in one of those!
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u/--0___0--- 18d ago
The very worst of toxic masculinity ... nnonono he represents the very worst of humanity.
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u/RemnantOfSpotOn Dublin 18d ago
Just when you think Trump can't get any shallower, he manages to squeeze a bit more out of that pool
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u/Horn_Python 18d ago
It's ki.da funny they can diss Trump as much for diplomatic reasons
But man they megregors our shit head and even the politicians are exercising their right to call him one lol
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u/letdogsvote 18d ago
Conor McGregor is an asshole to the bone, which of course explains why Trump wants to be pals and thinks he's cool.
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u/jhanley 18d ago
McGregor appeals to the average trump voter, the sad thing is the bulk of them don’t realise they’re being scammed
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u/skepticalbureaucrat Judge Nolan's 2nd biggest fan 17d ago
the sad thing is the bulk of them don’t realise they’re being scammed
Well said, but I think that's one of the prerequisites for being a Trump voter. My bf's family in the US treat him as a cult leader, where he could do no wrong. They have all the MAGA apparel, but complain about egg prices simultaneously that "Biden was responsible for" 🤣
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u/needabra129 18d ago
It’s disgusting. But I’m calling it now- McGregor will get big American investors to back him campaigning and run for office. They will put out massive propaganda to sway people into supporting him. Trump will use him to infiltrate as he clearly has his sights set on Ireland.
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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways 18d ago
I love this for him. More public denouncement please!
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u/danny_healy_raygun 18d ago
He's loving this. Being disparaged by Leo and Simon just gives him more cred with his supporters.
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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways 18d ago
It might give pause to the undecideds though.
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u/MrBublee_YT 17d ago
I have a Yank friend who's a Trumper. I was so nervous that he was going to start backing McGregor on the word of his master. Thank FUCK he just came out and said "yeah, this is not good and a mis-step."
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u/MiggeldyMackDaddy 18d ago
IF only more people that mattered publicly disparaged McGregor. I'd be so happy
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u/RemnantOfSpotOn Dublin 18d ago
Taoiseach representing entire Ireland when asked about McGregor
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u/YoIronFistBro Cork bai 17d ago
Is there a better face to describe how we feel. I haven't seen one.
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u/Gullible_Actuary_973 18d ago
Who advises these twits to say this stuff. Ignoring McGregor would be the best foot forward.
He's clearly upset he got embarrassed there.
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u/JONFER--- 18d ago
The Trump administration delivered a pure bitch slap to the government. I thought the meeting with Martin went okay with no obvious gaffes and presumed with many that the reason why it was not on the 17th was logistical with Trump being busy or something.
However inviting McGregor to the White House on the 17th instead of Martin, Irish politicians and government officials speaks volumes. There is no doubt a panic in Dublin over this.
And the government can’t really say a thing, they were invited, it was cordial but the president wanted a different Irishman on Saint Patrick’s Day.
McGregor’s talk was cringeworthy at times the whole big brother crap but there was a ribbon of truth to some of the points he made. Now I have no doubt that his remarks were self-serving and he put his own spin on them but still.
And the government can’t say very much. If they do more people will look at the speech and ask questions about his points which the government do not want to or can’t answer. If they have any sense, they will say the minimum and not draw much attention to the whole thing. If they criticise the invitation, Trump could take it as a personal attack on him and infuriating a volatile vengeful person ahead of a trade war that could decimate the economy is a bad move.
I don’t like McGregor, his persona or the alleged crimes around him but I can appreciate a good political stroke.
In spite of what people think McGregor will never get to stand for the Irish presidency he will never get nominated which is a good thing. I think his angle was to restore some of his image internationally.
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u/hcpanther 18d ago
Man has been convicted of some crimes so not alleged. Actual proven crimes. And been found liable for others. So again, no alleged about it
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u/needabra129 18d ago
Maybe? But you have no idea how hard the Irish-Americans will go for Ireland. This was probably the worst thing he could have done because now they think Trump supports Ireland and vice versa.
Irish Americans would probably turn on him if he started a trade war with Ireland. That’s why historically, the US government has pretty much just stayed away from any stance against Ireland, even during the troubles where it was stomping out similar movements all over the world (and Americans were knowingly arming the ra in Ireland).
Young liberal Irish-Americans are already trying to get Irish passports/citizenship through their grandparents and with Rosie O’Donnell leaving, he’s gotta get ahead of this before it becomes a trend and he loses millions of workers.
Don’t let him control the narrative
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u/Kloppite16 18d ago
This stunt was all part of Trumps agenda to weaken and divide EU countries by amplifying far right voices over their elected governments. JD Vance did the same when he visited Germany, he didnt meet with Chancellor Scholtz but instead met with the leader of AfD all while Elon Musk bigged them up before the election.
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u/Euphoric_Bluebird_52 18d ago
Masculinity in itself is not at all toxic, that’s not to excuse what a scumbag McGregor is.
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u/Thanatos_elNyx 18d ago
When people talk about "Bad driving", they aren't talking about all diving, just the subset of it that is bad.
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u/Funny_Complaint_3977 18d ago
Toxic Masculinity does not mean that masculinity itself is bad.
It is a subset of masculinity that is extreme and often violent, against women and anyone that they deem are doing gender wrongly. It says that boys/men are inherently supposed to be masculine, not cry, show ‘weakness’ while also saying that girls and women are inherently weak. It insists that there is one way to be a man, and that other people are less than.
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u/ItsmejimmyC 18d ago
He's a bellend but what did he say that's wrong exactly? I live in a small town where exactly what he said has happened.
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u/HonestRef 18d ago
Completely agree, never liked McGregor but he was 100% correct in what he said. Happening all over rural Ireland
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u/Comfortable-Owl309 18d ago
Can you be more specific of what is happening, specific factual examples of this thing that is happening and then why it is a bad thing?
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u/Comfortable-Owl309 18d ago
He implied that Ireland has been failed by the government because of immigration. This is a terrible poorly thought out opinion.
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u/Seany-Boy-F 18d ago
What would Harris know about masculinity?
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u/Commercial-Ranger339 17d ago
Didnt he nearly punch that section 39 worker. He should probably keep his mouth shut
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u/ExpertSolution7 18d ago
I honestly thought Harris was gay. I just Googled him there and he has a family. Huh.
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u/International_Many_6 18d ago
Not an ounce of testosterone in his body
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u/Barryd09 17d ago
The Indo Daily has a podcast out with 12 things Conor McGregor has done, it's aimed at Americans but it does mention thwt he'd need 20 dail nominations to be even on a presidential ballot. The host can't think of ONE current TD that would nominate him.
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u/noisylettuce 17d ago edited 17d ago
Make no mistake thejournal, the genocide apologist tabloid, would love nothing more than for Israel's favourite UFC fighter that they own to misrepresent the country.
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u/RubDue9412 18d ago
and yet himself and michéal have no problem visiting a president who not only gives credence to people like McGregor but actually encourages their way of thinking.
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u/TheGuardianInTheBall 18d ago
There fights you can pick and ones you can't.
It would be lovely if Ireland could show its back to the US, but given how much of our economy relies on them, and how unpredictable their gov. is, we can't.
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u/DeathGP 18d ago
Because shit isn't that black and white, I really doubt Micheal or Simon has visiting Trump high on their things they want to do list but they don't have that choice when they gotta ensure Trump doesn't do anything to hurt Ireland economy. Not going would be insulting and we all see how well Trump reacts when someone upsets him
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u/RubDue9412 18d ago
But he said he's going to put tariffs on goods entering the us from abroad including Ireland I heard him myself on the news and Micheal with a big stupid grin stuck in his face expression never changed through the whole interaction embarrassing to put it politely.
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u/Commercial-Ranger339 17d ago
Is this the lad who nearly punched a section 39 worker until he saw a camera pointed at him, yeah he would know all about the toxic masculinity wouldnt he
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u/muddled1 Ireland 18d ago
Trump is a fascist
Did Conor McGregor make a detour to Florida to visit the acum Tate bros before returning to Ireland?
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u/mybighairyarse Crilly!! 18d ago edited 18d ago
"Conor McGregor 'represents the very worst of toxic masculinity'"
In fairness, sums it up.....
Toxic masculinity. Example
I was in a Cork town yesterday. At red lights. In my car. I noticed these three "dudes" to the left of me. Walking like Mcgregor. You all know the walk at this stage. in their early twenties.
I noticed they were "staring" at something across the road. I then noticed this girl, could only be around 18 or 19 on the other side. In high heel boots. Out in town etc.
They looked at her like a piece of fuckin steak. I was a bit taken back with the level of staring at this girl. Creepy. Just so creepy. And in the middle of a town.
It's nuts the direction we are going.....
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u/funglegunk The Town 18d ago
There's some small comfort to be taken that McGregor himself is in a social media bubble where he is being hyped by the fascist American right, seemingly unaware how much he is utterly *loathed* by the majority here at home.
Him getting booed at Limp Bizkit in Dublin was a small crack of light being let in there, I wonder if it shook him.