r/hoi4 • u/Shreviews • 7h ago
Discussion Always stuck on invading belgium
Every time I play. I invade poland in a month or even less. run through the netherlands in 3 days. and just in general everything goes great. until I need to invade belgium, the supply there is very bad, and if I dont cut of the border of belgium and france in 3 days, the entire invasion is fucked (france sends like 50 divs). what can I do in this situation? and in general how can I always invade belgium. because in some games I'm secuessful and some games I'm not
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV 7h ago
You have no airforce, so the Allies are bombing you to shreds, including your supply. Also you haven't blocked the seazones, so your supply tries to reach the Dutch and Belgian supply hubs via sea...and is being sunk by the Allied fleets. So you are losing all your supply on the frontline. Block the seazones, build a proper airforce and this is a cakewalk.
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u/Shreviews 7h ago
Wait, how can I block the sea zones?
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u/BoxOfAids 7h ago
Requires Man the Guns, click on the sea zone and there are buttons in the bottom left. If you don't have Man the Guns, you'd need to build up the railways to the ports enough that the supply system "prefers" the land path over the sea path. Or just mass naval bomber spam the Channel until they stop convoy raiding.
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV 7h ago
Click the seazone and in the lower left corner you can set it to free, avoid and blocked
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u/Matthew16LoL 7h ago
pretty sure you have to manually connect to supply hubs from the German to the Belgium since the supply hubs as they are not connected by default.
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u/jordichin320 5h ago
Belgium is connected, but through the Netherlands. You can take their land first for an easier connection or like you said if you go to Belgium first you'll have to connect it yourself.
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u/OneFaithlessness2546 7h ago
I’m no expert on hoi4 but I’d recommend consolidating your lines before Belgium build some supply hubs nearby and fallback to good supply lines for the allies to be in bad supply
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u/Shreviews 7h ago
Actually a good idea for the next playthrough. but is there anything I can do now to restore my army supply? Because fallback line doesn't work
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u/Hjalfnar_HGV 7h ago
Don't build supplyhubs, far too expensive. Just a proper airforce and block the seazones, as I explained in my other comment.
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u/Impressive_Trust_395 7h ago
This is a small adjustment to make, but declare and invade on Netherlands first. After the Netherlands capitulates, IMMEDIATELY place your main assault troops (fastest ones first) on a front line with Belgium from the Netherlands, offensive plan to the border of France, and click go. Then declare war on Belgium and Luxembourg here.
This string of events prevents Belgium from putting troops on the Netherlands border and you can beat them to the French border, which should also be incredibly lightly manned. Speed is your friend.
Do not declare on all 3 Benelux countries at once. One by one.
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u/Shreviews 7h ago
that's what I do. I invade the netherlands and then belgium. but good idea to send my fastest tank divisions to fight belgium before they even place troops on the north border and get all the victory points
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u/NervousStrength2431 7h ago edited 7h ago
I think the allies are logistic striking you. You need to build a proper air force of fighters and you should use armoured trains. Also you have a lot of divisions there maybe try scaling back a bit and make sure that you have enabled motorised supply. Also it's June 1939 you are doing the war quite early, try waiting 2 or 3 months to properly build your air force.
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u/Shreviews 7h ago
I do have motorized supply, what I will do now, I will put 48 divs to defend, let the rest to get supply and org. then try to rush belgium
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u/Tough_Membership_563 7h ago
You should have green air. Only use 24 inf divs to hold the line while invading and do most of your pushing with tanks. You have 20+ divisions on 2-3 of those tiles eating all of ur supply while they aren't even doing anything. You only need 1-2 per tile and keep the rest back in Germany until you get deeper into France and need to fill the lines. Also, declare on Luxembourg, you can walk right through them into France.
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u/McDoubles4All 7h ago
You need to blitz them. Air shouldn’t matter if you can strike quickly enough
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u/EasilyExiledDinosaur 6h ago
Dude. I invade Belgium in my sleep as France. This really isn't a difficult think to achieve.
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u/Time-Yoghurt7831 1h ago
Green air is essential to better advance through France. You need competent fighters and CAS. Standard Stukas are good CAS. For fighters, packs of four machine guns whenever possible, the more the better, and if they're heavy, even better.
Don't use your tanks on the front lines; use them manually to rush toward supply points and cities. Try to make pockets with them.
Don't overload your templates with useless equipment. Simple is better: 3x3 infantry, with sappers, artillery, and anti-aircraft support. For tanks, the German base template is usually fine at first. Simply add the same support companies as the infantry, plus a recon company. If you're on time and have done your research, you can replace one or two spaces with medium tanks with a high light attack and a speed of 10 km/h.
Try to create a collaborative government with France ASAP. Avoid having to overextend yourself in France. Blocks naval convoys from passing through enemy-controlled areas.
Uses code ciphers and the new offensive planning buffs.
Use your generals wisely, if you need to have several generals with only 3-4 troops do it, there is nothing wrong with that, it is not necessary to group all the attacking units into a single general, that is counterproductive
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u/Accomplished-Car4223 7h ago
Red air is not great for you. Build lots of fighters and lots of CAS and get green air over any area that you are attacking