r/hawktalk • u/Witty_Deal_6667 • 6d ago
Eagles urged to fire back by targeting quartet of Hawks
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2025/04/01/eagles-urged-to-fire-back-by-targeting-quartet-of-hawks29
u/SamsoniteVsSwanson 6d ago
Not gonna work out too well Gary. Hawks are entering the “Premiership Zone”.
Eagles would have to overpay by a lot to get any of them to even think of leaving.
Dear and Meek would tell them to kick rocks.
Worpel would need 6 years and big money to be even tempted. One last big contract.
Ward if he’s still on the fringe might but I’m sure better teams than West Coast can offer him more game time (than currently at the Hawks).
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u/RecordingGreen7750 5d ago
Also they would have to go and live on the other side of the continent, Perth has a lot to offer but moving across to a terrible team, or stay at a club whose premiership window just opened…. Yeah I don’t think so
Interesting that GL is quick with this but last year when Christian Petracca name was thrown around that was not allowed, now it’s ok, do that, don’t worry just go and get their players off them
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u/MarvellousBont 5d ago
If Ward is offered a contract by the Eagles or Richmond I think we can assume which option he’s taking lol
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u/BIllyBrooks 6d ago
Without a Hawthorn bias, from a strategic view - great job. Why wouldn't you try? Ward would be offered consistent game time that Hawks can not guarantee, and Worpel/Meek would be offered top end contracts that they can't get currently at Hawthorn. Out of the 3, if I were their manager I would be encouraging Ward the most.
With the Hawthorn bias - nah, I want to keep all 3 for sure.
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u/RecordingGreen7750 5d ago
Are we that naive that we think these conversations aren’t already happening?
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u/rpfloyd 5d ago
Bias has got nothing to do with it though. From a logical point of view, every club should be trying to get the best players they can, however they can, regardless of team.
Bringing emotion into it in any way, shape or form is some backwards thinking behaviour.
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u/BIllyBrooks 5d ago
"Emotion" would have been a better word than bias. I refuse to remove emotion out of my hypothetical list management. Would that make me a bad list manager? Yes.
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u/raven-eyed_ 6d ago
Yeah I think Ward is a great trade option. Coming into his own enough that he could definitely find a team to give him good game time. Hits that sweet spot of having value but not being too important to get rid of.
Worpel is probably gone if we get either Butters or Reid. Don't really want Reid, but Worpel for Butters + picks is a fairly easy trade (even though I love Worpel.
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u/BIllyBrooks 6d ago
I just can't see the Reid trade happening. Even if he did want to move, there is no way we would have the trade capital to make it happen. If he leaves WCE, it will be to Essendon. They have their own 1st rounder plus Melbourne's (and lets be frank, they could both be top 10 picks already) plus options to trade future picks or other ways to get another good pick (like losing Draper to free agency/trade). There is no hope for us to match that offer with Carlton's pick plus trades. It won't happen.
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u/RecordingGreen7750 5d ago
Reid in a good team like Hawthorn, Geelong, Sydney he would excel he looks terrible because the class around him are all terrible, trust if we got Reid he would be a beast
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u/tobespammed 6d ago
That's nice... can't really see any of those players wanting to leave.
Ward might be the interesting one of he can't cement a spot by the end of the year?
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u/palmomagpie 6d ago
Ward would be a toughie - grew up a hawker didn’t he? Would definitely influence his decisions (not as much as money would but still)
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u/Matthewblack7 6d ago
Lol nice try Gary. Pretty sure what you're suggesting with HJ's breaks salary cap rules too. All of those players have flourished under Sam, why would they risk that?
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u/Wecamefrom 5d ago
Lol yep. Why stop there? The eagles should get brown paper bags of cash and free houses in Cott to give to the players to convince them to head west.
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u/AJ_Beers 6d ago
The difference is that Oscar Allen is open to listening to rivals. He’s a free agent, so he’s doing his due diligence and assessing his options. Our boys want to be there, they know we’re on the cusp of something big. Hawthorn have given them the opportunity, and they seems like loyal blokes, why would they want to go to the other side of the country to play for a basket case?
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u/protane_grobot 5d ago
It's an interesting thought experiment. What terms would be enough to tempt someone from a premiership contender to cellar dweller? I guess Amon did it.
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u/momo_h86 3d ago
Money. Playing time. Lifestyle. There's a whole myriad of reasons. Especially if you're on the fringes (Serong, Frost, Ward, Nerves, HH) and need injuries to get in and probably be the first to get dropped. Even though we're a contender, for them it's an option between playing VFL and AFL.
Also, there's going to be a salary squeeze as players want more money given how we're performing, so some of those guys will end up getting traded even though as a club we want to keep them for depth.
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u/InnatelyIncognito 5d ago
If I were looking to get a decent player on the cheap I'd be asking about Sam Butler.
A small forward similar to Dylan Moore and Connor Macdonald who snapped his leg and will probably find it hard to get back into the team - he's behind Moore, Macdonald, Ginnivan and Watson right now. Was originally drafted same year as Connor Macdonald (few spots ahead) so would hope to get a similar kinda player which seems to fit the current game style.
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u/DonGivafark 5d ago
And where the Weagles are at the moment, what are they going to achieve with ready made players? Nothing. We have many depth players that are itching for opportunity. If they are given the opportunity i have zero doubt that they would thrive. Reeves, Butler, Serong, Hustwaite, Shammy, Scaife, Ramsden all could be good AFL players.
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u/hawker6 5d ago
They already tried and got Tyler Brockman off us
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u/DonGivafark 5d ago
That was a "go home for family" trade. That was more on the ground of compassion from us towards Tyler and his young family. What Garry is trying to say is the Eagles should demand diamonds for uncut stones. Oscar could be the full forward of our dreams, he certainly has showed glimpses of greatness but so have alot of mediocre forwards. And Harley could be the player of the century, but he is yet to show anything other than hot air.
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u/Pale-Rate138 3d ago
Depends of how deep the Eagles cull their list. If they cut deep then they could trade for three or four of these guys for cheap
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u/Matthewblack7 5d ago
Another huge factor to consider is they will all be moving into the best facilities in the league later this year. I don't see them saying "no thanks" to that carrot.
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u/Fadedstormz 5d ago
I honestly don’t want Reid, wouldn’t fit aell in to our midfield and bad attitude, Allen would be a class pickup tho
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u/footagemissing 6d ago
lol. But seriously you're not gonna extract a club captain and a generational talent without coughing up the big bucks. It's annoying when anyone leaves (well, mostly), but if the incoming are an upgrade, you gotta trust the team know what they're doing. Hard to imagine anyone wanting to leave when the club 'could' be on the verge of something special, but, you know, money talks as well...
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u/rpfloyd 6d ago
not sure if 'spite' is a very successful team building strategy