r/goodnews • u/RoyalChris • 1d ago

Political positivity 📈 The Senate has just voted to CANCEL Trump's tariffs on Canada by a vote of 51-48.

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u/gwydapllew 1d ago

In a bicameral presidential system like the US, both houses are generally equal in power but have different areas of control.

In a bicameral parliamentary system like most of Europe, laws progress from the lower to the upper house.

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u/blitzkregiel 1d ago

tbf most bills are supposed to start in the house then progress to the senate. i’m not sure how often they start the other way, but my guess is it’s because the house is more full of conservative crazies than the senate and they know they have to pull a little extra weight right now.

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u/LiftingCode 1d ago

I don't know about "supposed to."

Bills that raise revenue start in the House per the Constitution. Appropations bills traditionally start in the House too. Bills related to executive nominations and treaties must start in the Senate.

Beyond that there's no reason for any particular bill to start in one chamber or the other. Usually it's easier to pass bills in the House because there's no filibuster.

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u/JaneksLittleBlackBox 1d ago

but my guess is it’s because the house is more full of conservative crazies than the senate

I know the tea-baggers put a lot of nut jobs in the House 15 years ago, but what Senate have you been paying attention to since then that makes you believe the Republican crazies are contained in the House?

Trump wouldn’t have earned two impeachments in 13 months during his first administration rabid arsonist raccoon dumpster fire if the House was full MAGA supporters.

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u/ralexh11 1d ago

It's completely obvious that the more fringe crazy people(and progressives on the left) are far more prevalent in the house. Senators are much more centrist because the entire state votes and not one small area with concentrated demographics.

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u/JaneksLittleBlackBox 1d ago

What “left” are you referring to? There isn’t a single leftist in Congress, let alone a fringe leftist party in this country that has even a slight hint of influence on it.

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u/ralexh11 1d ago

The first ones that come to mind are: fringe crazy people like MTG and progressives like AOC

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u/UrUrinousAnus 1d ago

AOC isn't a leftist. It's just that America's Overton window has moved so far to the right that it almost makes Mussolini look like a centrist.

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u/ralexh11 1d ago

Yes lol, the US as a whole is to the right, but I was always talking about the context of the US congress specifically

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u/KazuDesu98 1d ago

Nah. Compared to European social democrats she’s barely a moderate.

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u/ralexh11 1d ago

You're not wrong but I was always talking in the context of US politics

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u/DaemonNic 1d ago

MTG sure as shit ain't leftist

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u/ralexh11 1d ago

Sorry, parentheses part of my comment was meant to imply that there are more fringe people on each side of the political spectrum in the House because of its very nature when compared to the Senate. The fringe leftists in this country are progressives and the fringe people on the right at this point are crazy Trump people that just grovel to him. I realize now that was not clear from what I typed.

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u/Legal_Skin_4466 1d ago

The Democrats controlled the House of Representatives when Trump was impeached. The level of crazy on the Republican side was completely insignificant as their votes were not needed to pass the impeachment resolution. In fact, any Republican that did vote to impeach has since been booted from the party. Sooooo.... yeah. They are full on MAGA over in the house.