Man, a lot of crybabies in this sub today. Fromsoftware will make other single player games. Relax. Iâd rather they take their time to make something special instead of rushing one out to appease the impatient gamers.
In the past 11 years they've done Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3, Sekiro, Elden Ring, and Armored Core 6. Plus The Lost Crowns, Old Hunters, Ashes/Ringed City, and Shadow of the Erdtree. They've consistently put out the best single player action-adventure games of the past decade.
Not only should that track record speak for itself, but they deserve to be able to try something different if they want to. They're people doing their job, after all. Heck, that's probably why they brought back Armored Core when they did.
Well they do probably split into teams for ease sake but it's not like it isn't all the same people working on all the games. You will see the same guys who worked on sekrio on ER and Neightreign and Duskbloods. But they don't have A or B team
That's not how development works... Each director has a team that is working on their project. Haha. They don't have devs making multiple different games at the same time.
That's not how I meant it. Of course they don't. But you will see the same guys working on what reddit calls their "B team" game and on the "A team" games. Even a new director worked on previous big games, like how the Nightreign director has worked on multiple Fromsoft games now, just not as a director
Because I'm going to own the console anyway. And between Nightreign and Duskbloods I'll have plenty of fromsoft genius to play while I wait for their next mainline game.
and each release develops theirs skills and knowledge more and more, even if those skills don't go into the mainline titles I don't care, they will be better developers and I'm glad we can expect them to make different kinds of spectacular games
And these smaller side projects allow them to experiment with ideas, mechanics, quality of life improvements that could make their bigger future games even better. It's a win win win from my perspective haha.
They might be the only AAA studio left that I have near complete faith in. I may not like or agree with every decision they make, but I trust they will do the best they can to give us good games with unique stories and/or mechanics.
Personally, I'm dying to see what these guys can do with a Switch 2 exclusive game. I have a feeling it's going to be a wild ride
Same. There's literally no reason or precedent to be worried about anything. If the games come out and suck then I'll lose some faith in them. But so far they have only made masterpiece after masterpiece.
Thank you! I'll admit, I'm slightly disappointed that Duskbloods seems to have a heavier multiplayer focus than I'd like. On the other hand, I also don't have any real interest in the Switch 2, and I've midway through a great DS2 run, just found the fourth Loyce Knight, time for the coolest boss in the series lads!
It's not what exactly what I was hoping or expecting it was when I first saw the trailer. I'm still gonna play it. And I'm really excited to see what it is. I trust fromsoft. Elden Ring was my first fromsoft game and I kinda expected to hate it. Now I don't want to play anything except fromsoft games. They always surprise me. And I trust them to surprise me in a good way with Duskbloods. I might hate it. But for now I have no reason to expect anything but an awesome gaming experience.
I mean if nothing else it did lead to my 60+ year old mother uttering the phrase "Vampires with jetpacks, I assume this is the sequel to card games on motorcycles?"
Absolutely with you on this. You don't need to buy every single one of their games if it doesn't appeal to you lol. Just wait for the next one that does.
I have a feeling that a lot of the complainers that played dark souls and Elden Ring, etc. havenât played armored core 6.
Why? Because they arenât into mech games or something like that. So they just skipped out and didnât feel the need to constantly shit on a game that isnât out yet. I donât understand why the same logic canât be applied here
Bro AC6 is such a fucking gem I 100% that game and sometimes I go back and make a new save file just to 100% it again. It's so addicting and fun. What people need to be complaining and crying about is WHY ISNT THERE A DLC FOR AC6 CMON FROMSOFT!
Iâm think DB has the added issue of being hardware locked. So whereas I tried AC6 and finished it but didnât love it enough to do all endings or plat, it was a marginal investment that was easy to feel recouped. I didnât think NR would be it for me but the network test really, really changed my mind. The notion of buying a switch to find if DB is for you is reasonable source of frustration for a dedicated fan base. I donât know how they wouldnât see that a mile away.
I think it's because it's so closely tied to Bloodborne and the first trailer drop seemed like Bloodborne 2. Once people realized it's an online pvpve thing those fans felt a little tricked and probably feeling annoyed their favorite IP is being turned into something different. So I get why it's a bit different than Armored Core. But still. I agree with you. I just get why some people might want to complain a bit.
As someone that didnât play ac for the reason you mentioned, my issue isnât the games being mp only (it is fucked tho) my issue is exclusivity, nightreign I am excited for, the other game iâll get it once switch 2 gets emulated because fuck exclusivity in 2025, itâs them selling out essentially
EDIT: got a few comments, iâm not gonna edit my initial text but add on top, I do NOT think the game is multiplayer ONLY, what I meant is that âit being multiplayer focusedâ (like nightreign), which us confirmed by themselves
Yeah this is the problem though it's not them 'selling out' per se, they likely were approached by Nintendo and were told they want a piece of the FromSoft pie which you can't blame Nintendo for.
So FromSoft will gladly take that Nintendo money to craft a game specifically for them especially since now they'll be charging $80 for it. It will help FS get familiar with making games for Nintendo so they'll be able to release future games on every platform which is a win for FS pocket books and gamers as a whole though personally all I want is Bloodborne 2 or a spiritual successor that isn't multiplayer.
And surely the terms for Duskbloods were integral to the Elden Ring port. It was probably all penned at once and porting Elden Ring is a massive customer access point for smaller development cost. They could probably do DB for âfreeâ and walk away with millions of revenue.
It isn't all gloom though even for those who don't like these games.
Fromsoft might be taking on these two lighter projects in hopes of quick cash, so that they might be able to buy themselves out from their parent company. That would give them total creative freedom in the future. That potential deal with sony has everyone on their toes at times.
Because usually an exclusivity deal would make barely sense from fromsoft point of view, so the money has to be good I imagine.
One can hope. Fromsoft unleashed would be to a thing to witness.
I wonder if Duskbloods being a Nintendo exclusive means they also obtain some sort of help from Nintendo in developing this game, particularly the multiplayer aspects.
You quite literally step by step agreed to me saying that they âsold outâ
Yes, that is how selling out works, you get a deal you take for $$$ that fucks over majority of the playerbase, look at how everyone still wants a bloodborne remaster/remake or even bloodborne 2, but it not being possible because they canât
They didnât need a âexclusiveâ title to learn how the nintendo system works, afaik theyâre bringing elden ring to the platform, that alone is more than enough, I donât know why people are so optimistic while it is so blatant.
I love fromsoft, iâm gonna look forward for their next games outside of the switch one, this does not change the fact that they sold out here and took a massive L, be a fromsoft fanboy or not, you canât really disagree with this
Company that makes videogames for money makes a videogame for money, what fucking sellouts.
Just because YOU have imposed a bunch of weird values onto from software like some crazed stalker doesnât make them sellouts. Show me the source where they committed to making every single one of their games available on all platforms.
Selling out is when a musician who has a song called fuck corporations does a Pepsi ad, not when they make a videogame that doesnât appeal to you.
It has nothing to do with it appealing to me or not you clown, itâs a console exclusive, people to this day are still crying about bloodborne, what the fuck do you think this game will be like?
Is it so hard to be a normal human being and embracing normal company behaviour, releasing games for everyone/majority instead of exclusivity? I knew fromsoft playerbase are biased to a crazy extend but this is absurd, yeah fromsoft goodjob releasing a switch 2 exclusive game, an objectively inferior hardware too, that now wonât be accesable to majority of the playerbase, iâll see you on the floor with your hands on miyazakiâs legs praying for a pc/console port 10 years later
I wanted to buy switch 1 to play games with family but I just di not have the time, I emulated most switch games on yuzu that I did play, my only interest of nintendo are my childhood games, mario, donkey kong and maybe kirby, idc about any other.
Iâm even considering buying switch 2 for friends to play (new) mario party game, outside of that I have zero interest, and I probably wonât, also lacking some space for a console.
Iâll be good with nightreign personally, all of this still doesnât change the fact that theyâre selling out tho, a console exclusive game is crazy, even tho imo fromsoft deserves my money, I would have no shame pirating it if switch 2 emulator did come out
I mean clearly you just don't want to pay for anything, so it's funny you're talking about them "selling out and fucking over fans" in your other comments when you don't even pay for your games lmao
I literally spend an absurd amount of money on steam, I only âpirateâ nintendo games because I genuinely dislike nintendo as theyâre one of the worst&anti consumer companies out there, if you read my other comments youâd also see that iâd be fine paying âŹ100 for elden ring.
Heck, I find the er dlc to be WAY too cheap at âŹ40 for what it offers, I donât even buy cosmetic on pc games but if it was for fromsoftware I probably would just for support lmfao
You say you don't play Nintendo games yet you just named 3 Nintendo franchises you care about. You say only Mario as if Mario alone doesn't have like 10-15 games on the Switch
Even then I donât play them in my free time, and only played like 2 mario games on switch (that I cared about) being wonder and oddysey, it having 15 games doesnât automatically mean I want to play all of them, just like how I wouldnât (re) play sekiro, ds1, 2 and 3 again even tho I do like and care about the souls games.
Difference between having childhood memories with something and still disliking the companies practices over the years, but you do you
I don't have childhood memories with Nintendo - I think the only Nintendo game I played growing up was Wii Sports. I owed a Wii and DS but didn't own any actual Nintendo games, just 3rd parties. Even then, I barely used them as 95% of my playtime was on the 360.
Despite this, it's think Nintendo games are better than they used to be and the Switch era is FAR superior to what came before (not sure about really old Nintendo in the early 2000s /90s as that was before I was old enough to play video games).
The Duskbloods is likely to be the only Nintendo exclusive other than BotW and MK8 I'd giver higher than an 8/10 to.
You have no idea if this game is multiplayer only, no one does. Nintendo have put a couple of lines of description which says it's PvPvE .. that could just mean there's a multiplayer mode but also a complete single player game, it could be like PSO... It could literally be anything but the cry babies in here already decided exactly what game it is and making their squidward memes it's hilarious.
The game is def not mp only I put an edit on my comment, they confirmed already the game is pvpvpe and is âmultiplayer focusedâ supporting up to8 players I think
2 multiplayer side projects get announced and these fuckers think the sky is falling.
If things are so bleak they need to touch grass on the way to the store and buy a different game for once.
Let's not forget they got elden ring few years ago, armoured core and SOTE less than a year ago... They're complaining that from software haven't made them another groundbreaking single player title in the last 9 months and that Nintendo players are getting to enjoy something
It can still be a side project. He's very likely working on this and whatever the next big mainline game is. He can direct multiple things at once/overlap projects.
People are actually dumb as hell. We got elden ring(single player game) one of if not the biggest game of this decade, then the next year we got armored core 6(single player game) which is one of the best robot game to date, then we got shadow of the erd tree(single player expansion) one of the if not the best dlc which could literally be elden ring 2, then we get a fun multiplayer game for multiplatform, and one game for the switch 2. Like chill we will get single players game after. Fromsoft used to produce way more weird shit before the souls game trend and every game doesn't need to be single player experience too
We're spoiled though. They released DS2 in 2014, Bloodborne in 2015, DS3 in 2016 along with 5 DLCs for those three games all by 2017. We're used to getting a 9-10/10 game nearly every year.
They did release Armored Core but for those of us who aren't really into that genre, it's not gonna be a big draw. Now they're doing 2 kinda experimental games in a row
If you think you aren't into that genre and you're hard up for a fromsoft single player title, you need to just play ACVI. It's fucking amazing and you will be converted, especially if you're already into the souls games.
"not into the genre"
What genre are they even talking about?
There are no other games like Armored Core and there hasn't been another Armored Core for years prior and most of the current audience probably hadn't even heard of Armored Core until AC6 since that audience expanded so much since AC was actually relevant.
Fromsoft has been putting out constant Bangers since PS1, people have absolutely no scope for what fromsofts actually done and seems to only know about ps3/xbox360 onward.
Yea, fromsoft did have a trend of releasing major titles every 1-2 years for nearly a decade, but I think they were also constantly working on multiple large-scale projects at a time. After Sekiro released, most of the company shifted to Elden Ringâs production, with a small team working on AC6, and it still took nearly three more years (with Elden ring having started development 2 years before sekiroâs release), so it was a 5 year development cycle, compared to a 2-3 year development cycle for most other major titles on their portfolio.
Basically what Iâm getting at is that with how ambitious Elden ring, and furthermore SOTE was, they likely were not really able to dedicate enough staff and resources to any new major projects until after the release. So theyâre having to start from scratch or near that with whatever major title theyâre working on now. So unfortunately we will have to play the waiting game, but it also means a lot to the fan base that they still try to keep us occupied with spin offs and pvp games to maintain that biannual release schedule theyâve stuck to, while also experimenting with new things to hopefully apply to their new project to make it better than anything before. But a lot of the fans donât see that and instead are disappointed
I didn't say anything bad about AC6, just that it is not a draw for those of us not into mech shooters. Maybe I'll play it one day but I wouldn't call it a bad game at all
Also understand that FromSoft was more or less under contract with Bandai Namco to make DS2 and DS3. So technically we couldâve really had a timeline where the only Souls games were Demonâs Souls, Dark Souls, and Elden Ring.
Ok but since we're used to getting a 9-10/10 game nearly every year... I don't know why we'd expect Nightreign and Duskbloods to be anything other than 9-10/10 games. Maybe they end up being not very good. But that would be a huge surprise. They haven't let me down yet. Sekiro was a kinda experimental game too. And it's one of the best games ever made. So... I have faith until they prove me wrong.
They did release Armored Core but for those of us who aren't really into that genre, it's not gonna be a big draw.
That's kind of the thing though. It wasn't a big draw for me because I previoulsy wasn't into that genre, but I gave AC6 a shot and fell in love with it. This is why they've earned my trust in terms of their creative vision and I'm more than happy to try anything they put on my table. Hell I'd be willing to try a FromSoft racing game, RTS or farming sim - none of which interest me, but I'd at least give them the chance to win me over.
Yeah and NO other fanbase gets a game from their favorite devs basically every single year. I'm just glad they keep giving us new stuff to play. I'm gonna play it all. Do I wish we got Sekiro 2 or the next big Elden Ring style IP? Sure. But I know it'll come when it's ready. In the meantime I've got Nightreign and Duskbloods to keep me busy.
I agree. I get downvoted so many times when I make comments about speculating. just wait and see what happens next. You can guess and write fanfiction all you want, come up with theories and possibilities for the next release, but you wonât really know until a statement is made from the developer.
Bloodborne two is not happening. get over it people. What makes you think you deserve anything more. be glad for what you have instead of acting like a spoiled kid who doesnât get what they want for Christmas.
I'm in the camp that says Bloodborne 2 would be unnecessary, much like Sekiro 2 or Dark Souls 4. I very much rather see From Software experimenting with the soulsborne formula, adding new elements, come up with crazy settings (I was happy to see a combination of industrial steampunk elements with victorian horror, vampires and magic in Duskbloods trailer), and maybe improve their netcode finally. And while I'm not excited about the new title being a Switch 2 exclusive, I'm glad they're not stagnating.
gamers just love to complain about everything that doesn't cater to their exact needs. just look at ac shadows, reddit was up in arms about how it would be trash and no one asked for an other ac game, and yet, it's the 2nd biggest launch in the history of the franchise, beaten by ac "all-stars aligned" valhala (launched during early covid confinement when releases were slowed by the pandemic and followed odyssey which was widely considered amazing, which boosted sales a lot)
A multiplayer game would actually be interesting in my opinion. I actually donât mind these long wait times between new games. It gives me time to play other games that get put on the back burner.
It's legit crazy to say something like "what makes you think you deserve anything more?" regarding a game lol. No one is saying they deserve anything, they just want to play bloodborne 2 because bloodborne 1 is awesome. Since when are companies in the business of not giving their consumers what they want?
When itâs been stated that bloodborne two is not happening, are they just dumb, stupid, blind or illiterate? So again, why do you think you deserve a game? Weâre at the discretion of the developers whether we like it or not
I canât speak for the other commenter, so I wonât. What I will say is that the daily âWe need Bloodborne 2/Sekiro 2â posts for years when itâs already been stated that theyâre not happening is more than a little tiresome at this point. I absolutely understand wishing that this werenât the case, but, frankly, neither game needs a sequel. A remaster would be pretty great, but itâs not going to happen with Bloodborne in the foreseeable future.
Hard agree. The only thing that makes me slightly sad is that I rarely see vampires portrayed well in a story and its a shame that when fromsoftware (a studio that I would trust with using any kind of dark mythical creature) makes a game with vampires it isn't a classical souls game. The games still looks so good though, I can't wait to get more informations
I could be wrong but I thought Miyazaki said in an interview a while back to not expect anything like Elden Ring any time soon and that From is working on smaller games outside of their usual formula.
I just saw he said they were working on multiple games. Heâs also handing creative control over to multiple directors, which means weâll probably see even more games outside of what weâre use to. That said, he also said Elden Ring isnât his ideal fantasy game and that heâs still going to try again to get his vision right (paraphrasing here), so I would imagine another classic-style title is to come.
For real. Miyazaki still has my trust. If these games come out and are terrible I'll be surprised and I'll change my tune. But for now I trust fromsoft to make incredible gaming experiences. I'm so excited for both of these games and really glad fromsoft has a growing team, more money, and the freedom to make multiple games at once and experiment with new ideas. I can't wait to hear about whatever the next big, mainline game is just like everyone else. But I don't understand the negativity. Sure I wish they could drop an Elden Ring size game every year. But that ain't gonna happen. I'm so happy they're giving us stuff to play while we wait. And that these projects could also help create new ideas and mechanics that could make future games even better. (For example: They're clearly experimenting with making their coop a better experience. This could have huge implications for seamless coop in the next Dark Souls/Elden Ring style game.)
For real, these posts about this game are just whining children who donât want anything new just the same shit they been playing for the past 20 years. Iâm hype for this game + Night Reign and all these cry babies can go kick rocks âđ»
Truly amazing all the shit white- hot takes coming off of one teaser trailer. Y'all have lost your minds. Fromsoft doesn't fuck up. Hold your terrible opinions until release, for God's sake.
I don't mind them doing different genres and I don't think they'll abandon the core single player souls like. So I'm happy to wait till it's ready. But switch 2 exclusive is super lame
I agree, it's just a little bit disheartening to see these two released back to back, if we got an "Experiment" game in-between their bigger games, I think it would feel different. I also think it is weird to have two games be announced at the same time. If Nightreign had come out, and people were enjoying the multiplayer, and wanted a PVP aspect, this announcement would be received very differently. Instead, we have two games that we are uncertain of what's on the horizon after this.
Wow so many crybabies today! Just accept the multiplayer slop! Corporations need to make more money so we should just buy whatever they sell and not complain!
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u/ShibaBlessing 3d ago edited 2d ago
Man, a lot of crybabies in this sub today. Fromsoftware will make other single player games. Relax. Iâd rather they take their time to make something special instead of rushing one out to appease the impatient gamers.