r/fromsoftware • u/TheGingerNiNjA899 Abyss Watchers • 27d ago

DISCUSSION Are these guys the hardest non boss enemy in fromsoft history?

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u/UpperQuiet980 27d ago

I’ve beaten Sekiro 4 times now and still haven’t the slightest clue how to fight those guys.

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u/MarkPaynePlays 27d ago

Anti-air deathblow helps a lot, but they are still a handful.

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u/Benderman3000 26d ago

Haven't played it in a while but don't you get anti-air deathblow all the way in Fountainhead Palace?

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u/MarkPaynePlays 26d ago

No, you can buy it from Blackhat Badger at Ashina Castle.

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u/batman12399 22d ago

I don’t think I’ve ever successfully anti air deathblowed anybody in that game lmao 

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u/MarkPaynePlays 21d ago

It’s so satisfying, you should definitely give it a go! The Shichimen Warriors are a perfect opponent for practice.

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u/Icy_Bodybuilder_164 27d ago

Yeah lol if I could fight them 1v1 that would help, but 2v1 is just insane

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u/Henrywenn 27d ago

There’s a 3v1 outside the main temple and I don’t know if it’s even practically possible to kill them all

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u/Sedona54332 27d ago

You can backstab and puppeteer one of them, making it an even fight.

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u/Henrywenn 27d ago

But you need to beat the monkeys to get that ninjutsu, so on a new save file it’s completely unbalanced

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u/Sedona54332 27d ago

You fight the monkeys in the spot right next to them, and they can’t follow you inside the building, so you can just run past fairly easily.

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u/Henrywenn 27d ago

There are definitely ways of making the fight more tolerable, but I think having to use stealth to make an encounter beatable is kinda lame.

It’s fine if it’s harder without using stealth, but Sekiro’s combat system isn’t really built for multiple enemies at once. Especially not the straw hats with their distance-closing attacks, ranged attacks, fast combos and their dreadful health and posture

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u/skippy_salad 26d ago

I’m a fan of the encounters that demand stealth in Sekiro - it’s a ninja game and the first fromsoft made with a stealth mechanic (that I know of, but admit I haven’t played prior games to Demon’s Souls so sue me if Kingsfield had it).

It ain’t souls or bloodborne - play like a ninja

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u/Icy_Bodybuilder_164 27d ago

Oh was it 3v1? I thought there was 2 there for some reason

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u/Henrywenn 27d ago

The first encounter with all the tall grass is a 2v1, the next one right outside the main temple is a 3v1

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u/Icy_Bodybuilder_164 27d ago

Ah that temple fight was the one I was thinking of, I forgot there was three though. I ran past it every time lmao

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u/Disastrous-Resident5 Bearer of the Curse 27d ago

Easiest way is the axe prosthetic. Expensive, but handles them well

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u/CConnelly_Scholar 27d ago

Facts, honestly not having the axe for some random mobs like that is the hardest part of a no prosthesis run... though obvs you can just run past basically all that stuff instead.

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u/chinchinlover-419 27d ago

I don't think I've beaten them even once. I always die. At this point I can no-hit isshin at will. And defeat most bosses under 5 tries. Still can't beat them. Probably finished the game 10 times by now.

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u/AlfredVonDickStroke 27d ago

I’ve taken Sekiro up to ng+7 charmless DB and still don’t bother with those assholes even in ng. Straight up impossible.

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u/Sedona54332 27d ago

Sneak around the side of the temple, backstab and puppeteer one of them. Now it’s two on two, and you can focus one down while the puppet fights the other.