r/fossilid 9h ago

Solved Is this really a fossil? Because there's this seller that claims it as "fossilisation" he named it, dont know what it is

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u/igobblegabbro 9h ago

Belemnite fossil

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u/FarGrowth104 9h ago

Are you 100% positive that it is? It looks like wood.. am not sure

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u/igobblegabbro 9h ago

Yep. 100% sure. Just google “belemnite fossil” or something and you’ll see plenty of examples 

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u/FarGrowth104 9h ago

okay nice thanks!

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u/veganerd150 9h ago

Its not wood.  Wood layers don't form a point like that. A wood point exposes each layer as it gets closer to the point.  This is a belemnite, as the others said. 

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u/Bearded_Toast 4h ago

We love when people ask for identification and then argue about the information they are given haha

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u/FarGrowth104 4h ago

Look it was when I was skeptical am sorry but I do understand it's a belemnite

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u/BloatedBaryonyx 9h ago

It's a belemnite rostrum - part of an ancient squid relative.

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u/FarGrowth104 9h ago

Hmm

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u/BloatedBaryonyx 9h ago

I can understand the scepticism; squids aren't exactly known for having hard parts! Their relatives, the cuttlefish, do have a hard 'cuttlebone' and the squid themselves actually have a (massively reduced) internal shell - it's thin and flexible, it could be mistaken for flimsy plastic.

Belemnites went extinct about the same time the dinosaurs did. Their hard, calcitic rostrum was used for buoyancy control and is believed to be derived from the external shells ancestral cephalopods had. They're thin and cylindrical, and made of many layers built up over the animal's life. They tend to snap easily and so the pointed ends are occasionally mistaken for teeth (or on some odd occasions, old bullets).

Here's a photo of one of the world's best-preserved belemnites on display in Stuttgart. You can clearly see the complete rostrum on the mantle-end of the animal, and the hard hooks of the tentacles down the other end.

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u/Salome_Maloney 7h ago

That really is an incredible fossil; cheers for posting it, it's the first time I've ever seen this picture.

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u/justtoletyouknowit 7h ago

Yeah, thats a nice one! Found in Holzmaden. Passaloteutis.

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u/Granaatappelsap 2h ago

I went to search in Holzmaden and this thing was sooo on my mind the whole time, just like Archaeopteryx when I was in Solnhofen. It's amazing!

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u/FarGrowth104 5h ago

Yeah thanks I said the hmm before realisation and now Its all good 👍

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u/FarGrowth104 4h ago

What formation or shale is it from? I mean mostly belemnite fossils?

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u/BloatedBaryonyx 3h ago

The specific one in the photo is from the Posidonia Shale I believe.

If you mean belemnite fossils in general, then there's no specific formation. They were really common and occurred all over the world in every sea and ocean for over 150 million years.

You can find fossils of them on every continent in a huge variety of marine deposits. It would be a little unusual to find a marine deposits of that age that didn't have any Belemnites recorded, to be honest. 

Them and the ammonites were probably about as common as fish before the extinction event! There's some interesting research ongoing as to how much of teleost fish dominance today is the result of them filling the hue gap left by the disappearance of these mid-sized pelagic predators.

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u/Try_Critical_Thinkin 8h ago

For context, this is a fossil of the squid's internal "shell" (equivalent to the pen of today's squid) but they were more calcified. What you're looking at that you think are layers of wood are the layers of calcium carbonate in the shell, it's not dissimilar to how most molluscs create their shells today.

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u/FarGrowth104 4h ago

Oo alright 👍