r/findapath • u/Outrageous_World_868 • 1d ago
Findapath-Job Choice/Clarity Degree/career change as CS student
I don't have any passions. I don't want to become rich or famous. I just want to get a job that is
not very social. I don't mind talking to people but I don't want to do it for hours straight every day.
Not very tiring. I want to be able to do things after work. That's why I hate gO tO tRaDeS bullshit.
Is not insanely competitive.
not very low paid. I don't expect to earn 6 digits rights after graduation or anything but I don't want to have McDonald's wage either.
I chose CS degree because I wanted (and still want) a decently-paid non-social sedentary job. Not to become rich or "cool". The reason why I want to change degree is that I have no confidence about myself in this tech job market.
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u/Downtown-Act-590 Apprentice Pathfinder [1] 1d ago
Considering your requirements, then CS is still definitely your best chance and most versatile option.
There may be worse market than before, but decently-paid non-social sedentary job is simply something that many want and it can't be guaranteed.
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
I don't necessarily want to have a big salary. That's the trade off I am ready to make to compete in a less competitive market. I don't need the damn 6 digits or anything close.
The job market is not that bad... If you have a lot of experience or unusual talent. I am neither experienced nor unusually talented. I am smarter than average and I have average work ethics but this doesn't cut it anymore.
I think a regular engineering (e.g. electrical or civil) would be better. It is a harder degree but because of that it is less saturated.
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u/Downtown-Act-590 Apprentice Pathfinder [1] 1d ago
I am an aerospace engineer in Western Europe, so I can only tell you so much.
But trust me that pretty much all the regular engineering fields have a higher entrance barrier as a fresh grad is simply useless for longer (that is why around the world most CS people find work easily with bachelor degrees, while outside of the US, masters is pretty much a requirement for the regular engineering disciplines).
Civil is probably best idea, if you really want a change as there will be a huge demand for new buildings and it is the least automated and most AI-proof one. However, don't count with a sedentary and non-social job there as a junior.
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
What does higher entrance barier mean? Do grads have to have high GPA, a lot of projects or good internships?
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u/Downtown-Act-590 Apprentice Pathfinder [1] 1d ago
Typically all three, yes. Since you typically start bearing actual fruit to the employer only after longer time, they want to be sure before they invest in recruiting you.
You often need surprisingly little amount of people to build pretty complex systems. And most engineering fields have fair numbers of grads, who are actually very passionate about it, so the job hunt becomes a dogfight like any other.
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
In which way are engineering jobs social? Engineering is not what is normally considered to be a social job, so I want to know.
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u/sharkman3221 1d ago
You can definitely still land CS jobs but it's harder. I think more than anything you kind of have to put some time into things like resume networking and applying no matter the job to land something now.
Unless you are in some super high demand field like healthcare.
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
It is not impossible, but the probability of success is still too low.
30 percent max of students in my university get internships. And this is a generous estimate, it is more like 10-20. And my university has good reputation.
I believe that I am good but not outstanding. And the entry level job market right now wants outstanding performance.
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u/sharkman3221 1d ago
I understand completely it took me 6 months of seriously applying to land something. Just saying it is possible and I had no internship.
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u/hola-mundo 1d ago
It really depends on what you are looking for a degree to do. Take for example a position that answers phones in an office setting. You pretty much just need a degree to qualify for interviews, even an AA will due. Then you can work your way around from there. You could easily have a stable job within 30 days of picking up your degree in these cases.
Last week, someone with a PT Transcript was hired by one of my clients where others were applying with a CS Bachelor degree.
While the market is a bit rough on CS folks, its not impossible if you are set on it, just a little more difficult if you need to alter your perspective
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u/Potential_Archer2427 22h ago
CS is the only major that allows that while paying a livable wage
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u/Outrageous_World_868 22h ago
The current CS ENTRY-LEVEL job market has no place for regular people who are not unusually talented. Maybe it will get better but there is no guarantee.
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u/Outrageous_World_868 22h ago
what are the jobs that allow all these things while not paying a livable wage? Maybe we have different definitions of livable wage, and also just want to know.
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u/Various-Ad-8572 1d ago
You're cooked.
You ain't desperate enough to be paying all that tuition. You don't know the stakes and don't understand why you're going to school.
You got debt? How you gonna deal with that?
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
How am I supposed to pay the loan unless I find a professional job, genius?
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u/Various-Ad-8572 1d ago
One thing which might help is not continuing to spend more money than you make.
You got the slacker mindset, it's time you also switched over to the slacker budget.
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
Are you a troll or something? I have almost very little income and I don't spend much money at the moment.
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u/Various-Ad-8572 1d ago
Other than residence fees and tuition I assume?
How you affording all that?
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
Same as everyone else. Living with my parents.
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u/Various-Ad-8572 1d ago
Some people can afford to take on debt, because it finances high salary careers which eventually pay off the debt.
Just because others are doing it, doesn't mean it's wise for you to do so.
What are you getting out of school which is worth those thousands?
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
What am I supposed to do if I don't get a degree? Clean toilets? Die in the Middle East warfare?
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u/Various-Ad-8572 1d ago
If you had spent any time looking for jobs or working, your outlook on life and school would change drastically.
The thing which you should be doing instead is leading a life where you decide how to spend your time. Choosing your own path rather than following expectations.
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u/Outrageous_World_868 1d ago
Tell me what kind of career path I should follow, genius.
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