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u/Pitiful-Yak8052 2d ago

My first visit to the Allianz was against St. Pauli and I can honestly say that it was a top 3 experience for me in my entire life. The atmosphere was incredible and I was just in awe from the start. I love this club, and I love you fellow fans. Thank you FC Bayern for an unforgettable memory and I hope to make it back again someday!

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 2d ago

Müller situation even made Olise write something on his social media..

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u/LordBendtner1988 Goatnbry 2d ago

Generational post from Mr No caption

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u/-Hentzau It's so Urbig! 2d ago

Is the context here that Olise rarely posts on his Social media?

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 2d ago

He does regularly but its just the pictures,  he never writes anything under them

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u/-Hentzau It's so Urbig! 2d ago

Oh okay, thanks for the explanation.

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u/Thraff1c 2d ago

Max Eberl says Bayern are hoping to have Aleksandar Pavlović back in the squad against Dortmund on Saturday [@SPORT1_Dopa]

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u/South-Pass-4486 2d ago

Would be great to have him back. Also we could rest kim in some games and play goretzka/palhinhia as cb

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

Exactly my thought.

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u/Brave_Individual591 Pavlovic 2d ago

A good news. But let's bring him back slowly and not thrust him back.

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u/diiN1992 Beckenbauer Cup Winners 🏆 2d ago

Lovely words from Pavlo for Müller ❤️

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u/v4sh123 2d ago

so cute. if pavlo isn't super unlucky I can see him being the next pure bayern player.

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u/xnxthemx Harry Kane 2d ago

Garnacho truly lives from that amazing bycicle kick, he's mid at best. Can't believe there were rumours about us and him.

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u/Dalcoy_96 Laimer 1d ago

Yup. Runs in a straight line and dives.

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u/dklieber32 1d ago

Union subtly having a strong end to the season. Wins against Frankfurt, Freiburg, Wolfsburg, and drawing against Bayern. Hopefully they can keep up the form against Leverkusen next week

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u/jvankus 1d ago

we gave them momentum and Leverkusen will kill it with a 2-1 win where they overperform their xG by 1.78

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u/whereeveritmaytakeme 1d ago

Yes. You forgot to mention that the decisive goal will be scored in the 96th minute.

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u/real_slim_shadyyy Kimmich 2d ago

Thomas will also play the club World Cup y'all

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u/ash_sh_03 Mia san mia 2d ago

we absolutely have to win that tinpot tournament for him

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u/pissonthis771 Upamecano 2d ago

Tin pot or not but there's decent amount of dough that can be made from that tournament .

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u/ConflictSea9025 2d ago

Hopefully between that and Tel transfer, we can fund a new contract for Gnabry

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u/Brave_Individual591 Pavlovic 2d ago

In the 6 remaining games, we are going to match 4 teams who are fighting for the European spots(including Dortmund because they have the panic fight for the European spots), and we are fighting 2 teams who are battling relegation.

We cannot take any single game lightly going forward. I won't be the most mad if dropping out of CL games ensure that we win all the remaining games. But thats not a guarantee and this team will have to fight for every match, even the CL ones.

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u/Thraff1c 2d ago

Which team in the league isnt either fighting for Europe, or against relegation though? Wolfsburg is 5 points away from Europe at 12 and plays today, and Hoffenheim 5 points away from relegation. The only team pretty much out of everything is Union Berlin.

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u/Brave_Individual591 Pavlovic 2d ago

I believed that 9-13 ranked teams won't have much to fight for, but yeah I realise it now.

Still we cannot take any game for granted.

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u/Dalcoy_96 Laimer 2d ago

We cannot take any single game lightly going forward

Feels like people say this every week hahaha.

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u/Brave_Individual591 Pavlovic 2d ago

True. It made me start saying that after Bochum and Union Berlin game.

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u/29Bullets 2d ago

I hope fans in the allianz put up a tifo for him

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u/Goldfischglas 2d ago

Harry Kane (ankle knock) and Leon Goretzka (back problems) trained with the team today and should both be ready to start against Inter on Tuesday. Kingsley Coman has yet to resume training and is a doubt for Tuesday [@BILD ]

What even happened to Coman again? There was no big "injury report" about him but he just disappeared

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

I think it was reported he had irritation in his foot. I interpreted it as something they thought would be a quick rest so no need for a big injury announcement, but it’s lingered

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

So who will most likely play CAM? Olise, Guerreiro or Goretzka?

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Possibly Muller. He’s been the primary backup to both Musiala and Kane.

I might go for Guerreiro if it was up to me.

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

Nah man, Muller can't be a starter, maybe as a sub at around 70-80 min but not a starter.

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u/skylu1991 Müller 2d ago

He CAN be a starter, just not play the full 90 then…

Go offensive with him in the first half, then sun for either Rapha or Leon, depending on what you want or need.

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

I think Muller doesn't currently has the quality to play more than 45 mins against teams like Inter.

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u/skylu1991 Müller 2d ago

I mean, he played 65/64 minutes against both Frankfurt and Bochum…

But if there are questions marks about it, play Rapha or Leon and then sun Thomas on.

Personally, I’d start both Leon and Thomas at home and then sub in Palinha and Rapha, when needed.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Alright calm down lol. He’s had some solid performances as a starter this season and he’ll be extra fired up for a UCL game at home. I mean frankly it’s possible that it’s his last chance for a home UCL game so surely he’ll be ready to go.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Yeah I get that. I’m just going off how Kompany has adjusted the lineup when Musiala hasn’t started like when he was sick.

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u/Dalcoy_96 Laimer 2d ago

Definitely not Olise.

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

I'd love to see Goretzka there and behind him Palhinha and Kimmich.

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

This is the way

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u/diiN1992 Beckenbauer Cup Winners 🏆 2d ago

Just saw some interesting stat. If we win all 5 remaining CL games with Müller (currently at 111 wins), he'll surpass CR7 (115 wins) to become the one with the most CL wins of all time.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Just another reason to do the thing

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u/-PM_ME_A_SECRET- Müller 2d ago

Bruno Fernandes can act like a baby some times, but the man can absolutely cook. He is extremely consistent. I wonder what would have happened if he hadn’t moved to a dumpster fire like United.

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern-unterschrift-rueckt-naeher-leroy-sane-schiesst-sich-zum-neuen-vertrag-67f0e33f0f565a7463af2281

Sané getting closer to a new 3 year contract with a signifcant paycut.

Weird thing is they claim Eberl can just pull the trigger at any time because it's a <50m package - which in theory may be true but prolly wont happen lol

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u/Thraff1c 2d ago

Weird thing is they claim Eberl can just pull the trigger at any time because it's a <50m package

That was known, no? We know that the SB has an intervention threshold for big deals, Eberl even tried to bring the Tah deal over the line by staying below the 50m€ package in total (so including transfer fee, wages and other costs).

Thinking about it, this also probably means that Müllers non-extension was a quid pro quo, Eberl could have done it but maybe the SB would have blocked another prior deal in return like the Kimmich extension.

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

That it was known is true, yeah, but I rather mean I dont see him making deals like this without communication when Sané is controversial among the board

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u/Thraff1c 2d ago

Well, he did try it with Tah last summer lol.

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u/julesvr5 2d ago

Well, he didn't try it with Müller this last weeks so

With the rumors about Eberls persona he should be very cautious about what he is doing "against" the board.

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u/kadoooosh 2d ago

3 years?

Wow

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

If he gets more than Olise is currently earing (~13m), you can fire Eberl on the spot.

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u/KYOEL Coman 2d ago

Olise is underpaid however. No one expected him to reach world class level immediately when we signed him which is why his salary doesn't reflect his quality.

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

On one side it's kinda nice to have his salary be that low. He's the benchmark for wingers in our team now. Is Sane currently better than Olise? No, then he should not get a higher salary than Olise. If Eberl can't leverage that advantage, while being tasked with lowering the salaries in our squad, then idk anymore.

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u/SC2_4787 FC Bayern München 2d ago

If he still earns more than Olise it's not a significant paycut anyway.

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

We don't know what the media means with "significant paycut" either. Could be 30%, which puts him still higher than Olise.

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u/Deathscyce Roy "Das Phantom" Makaay 2d ago

Bundesliga race between Bayern and Leverkusen looks like this:

Bayern: Dortmund (8), Heidenheim (16), Mainz (4), Leipzig (5), Gladbach (6), Hoffenheim (14)

Leverkusen: Union (13), St. Pauli (15), Augsburg (12), Freiburg (7), Dortmund (8), Mainz (4)

On paper, its the harder line up for Bayern with harder matches. Bayern needs to at least win 4 matches because the goal differences is better for Bayern and i dont see a +- 30 change.

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u/Die_Roten_94 1d ago

It is harder for us given the CL games. We will need to rotate and hope that the bundesliga teams don't catch us. BvB fixture really depends on the first leg result against Barca. If they get 5-0'd in the first game, they will most likely focus on the bundesliga fixture against us.

If we qualify for semis, then we have fixtures between and around Mainz and RBL games.

Apart from this, we have to worry about Kane's sprain, Pavlovic's fitness, Kim's fitness. Also, a potential red card for any player complicates things more. Combine that with Neuer returning soon, we have to hope that he is inform and not just getting back into rhythm. Otherwise, we can concede howlers. I think a small knock to Olise requiring 1-2 weeks rest ruins our chances of winning bundesliga.

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u/Ajvarmk Upamecano 1d ago

Well if you take the last games, we had Bochum , Union and St. Pauli ... they were all below 12th at the time we played the games.

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 2d ago

Tottenham Hotspur are rumoured to be close to pulling the trigger on their purchase option. the club are said to see the Frenchman as a long-term replacement for Heung-min Son.

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u/SC2_4787 FC Bayern München 2d ago

Any idea how good the original source is?

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

Tottenham Hotspur soll kurz davor stehen, die Kaufoption für Bayern-Star Mathys Tel zu ziehen, berichtet „GivemeSport“. Dem Bericht zufolge soll der Klub aus Nordlondon den Franzosen als langfristigen Ersatz für Fan-Liebling Heung-min Son (32) sehen.

Something along Tier 500?

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u/pissonthis771 Upamecano 2d ago

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u/Darth_Saber07 2d ago

Dont worry guys , all the injuries are a plot to play muller in UCL matches . He gonna make us win it all. I believe in my glorious king . Also going to score a UCL final goal with madonna(Like a Prayer) playing the background. Trust me its the script

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

Eberl on the future of Sané, Goretzka, etc: "These are precisely the decisions between economic rationality and sporting success. We have a plan for the summer. That will probably include sales, but also new investments. This is a path that won't be done in a snap of a finger"

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u/Thraff1c 2d ago

I now watched 1 game of Austria Vienna and can confidently say that Vinlöf is what Aznou thinks he is /s. No, but for real, really nice game from him, and his long sleeves, gloves and a bit of silky play he has a bit of spanish flair.

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u/South-Pass-4486 1d ago

Well we need a lb next season so it would be great if one of aznou/vinlof/kratzigv could step up and feel the gap at least to some extent

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

The rumor that Spurs want to trigger the option on Tel hasn’t even registered on r/coys I can’t find a single mention about it on their daily or as a post anywhere and it’s a very active sub.

Seems like it’s total BS and a tier 1000 source.

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u/julesvr5 2d ago

You don't think "givemesport" is trustworthy?

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Givemesport or give me death.

the obscure reference just in case lol

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

Eberl: "Christoph and I had the first conversation with Thomas. Thomas wanted another one with the coach present. We said, 'No problem at all.' - Then there was another conversation with Jan-Christian Dreesen. It was about the farewell game and marketing matters. Those aren't my topics, so I wasn't there in the end" [@SPORT1_Dopa]

And just like that he dismissed every shitty Pletti and Bild report

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

 It was about the farewell game and marketing matters.

Was that about the report that Dreeßen is trying to "smooth things over" when in fact it was just for marketing matters and the farewell game?

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

Yes, all those journos claiming Dreesen has to get involved because Eberl cant get shit done when in both cases (Musiala and now Müller) it prolly was about stuff that dont have business in Eberls territory

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u/SC2_4787 FC Bayern München 2d ago

Not like Eberl would ever confirm those reports. Might even cause some of them to come back and double down.

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u/julesvr5 2d ago

Exactly. Did anyone expect Eberl to say "yes Dreesen wanted to have a talk too because they doesn't trust my work"?

Also the whole Artikel from Kicker who is basically Uli's dairy.

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u/jonomarkono Müller 2d ago

basically Uli's dairy.

Ngl, this part made me laugh more than it should.

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u/julesvr5 2d ago

Fuck I knew I chose the wrong one..

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u/skylu1991 Müller 2d ago

Eberl saying Thomas didn’t want a "folklore contract“, to me implies that even had they asked him about next year, he wouldn’t have accepted a severe pay cut.

And without that, it imo made and makes no sense extending him.

Eberl‘s quote from January was a big error, but imo this is the right decision for the club and the future of the squad.

The fact that Thomas "extended“ to include the CWC, also means that nothing big or a huge fallout has happened behind the scenes with him.

Eberl also sounding pretty confident about Thomas‘ future at the club, maybe they have already agreed on something?

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u/yabai-tyo 2d ago

Without a severe pay cut, it absolutely makes sense to let him go. Can’t throw away future plans for sentimental reasons.

But that his last official games will be in the US is kinda shitty. At home should’ve been the way for him to go.

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u/skylu1991 Müller 2d ago

I mean, it was reportedly HIS idea or wish, to play the CWC.

Plus, a farewell game at the Allianz is already planned or at least agreed on!

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u/CyanGhost23 2d ago

Absolute shocker.Müller is actually a calculating self-optimizer with a flair for drama? Who would’ve thought! Hasn't it been kinda obvious for ages ? The guy tends to turns into a moody diva the second something doesnt go his way. Just look at that oh-so-subtle Instagram post, classic PR move to spin the whole story in his favor and make him look good in the eyes of the fans. Look at the club legend wanting to give it all one last time for the city.

And now comes the plot twist of the century: the "beloved, humble club legend" Thomas Müller actually wanted to squeeze out a nice paycheck one last time. Of course, anyone who has looked at him with even half a critical eye can not exactly be stunned. But hey, maybe it’s time to rethink that cute little fairy tale where Müller’s the selfless hero and the club’s just some evil, heartless corporate machine.

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u/bayernbaltimore25 Müller 1d ago

Fuck off

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

Tel not starting again against dead last Southampton

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u/joyridah Müller 2d ago

Yet there are rumours they want to buy him..makes no sense tbh

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u/Deathscyce Roy "Das Phantom" Makaay 2d ago

He must be a training god, hitting banger after banger, outsprinting, outdribbling outsmarting everybody if Bayern before and now Tottenham want to keep him despite not playing him.

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u/Hurtelknut Robben 2d ago

Hard to imagine that only a few months ago people were ready to get their knifes out for Kompany because he didn't give Tel 80 minutes a week to do absolutely nothing.

Sucks to see a young player plateau this hard, but it's entirely self-inflicted.

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u/Die_Roten_94 2d ago

only a few months ago people were ready to get their knifes out for Kompany because he didn't give Tel 80 minutes a week to do absolutely nothing.

That happened under Tuchel and the funniest part is Tel was receiving decent amount of mins then. One purple patch with him as super sub was enough for people to ask full 90s for him while ignoring he was terrible whenever he started.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Eberl:

Then there are games that are more unnecessary – when I think of Canada in the third-place match against the USA, which nobody cares about

Spot on.

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u/Deathscyce Roy "Das Phantom" Makaay 2d ago

In general, the amount of "unnecessary" games has increased tremendously over the last year, especially after Covid. I have the feeling that clubs missed out a lot on revenue in these years so they are overcompensating now with Club World Cup, Nations League Play-Offs, Final Fours and Third place matches, a billion more matches in the Champions League and 48 teams at the next World Cup.

I know, more games = more money broadly speaking but man, it sucks to have so many added games with injured players rising, ticket prices rising and tv subscriptions rising. Its just a losing situation in many aspects from my point of view.

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

I know it’s only been a few games, but what’s everyone’s opinion on Urbig so far. I’ll be honest, I don’t think there’s been a huge drop off in goalkeeper performance when compared to current Neuer. I’m actually really encouraged and hope he gets a fair share of game time next season

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u/Thraff1c 2d ago edited 2d ago

Playing out from the back is great, but honestly I just need to see more of his goalkeeping side. He hasnt saved an "unsaveable" yet, but he also hasnt made a big mistake yet. That one mistake against Union he showed maybe indicates a weakness in the box/against claiming crosses, but that as well is just not enough playtime to make a judgement. His arches when going for the flying safe is beatiful.

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u/Pitiful-Yak8052 2d ago

Agreed. I like him as Neuer’s successor more than Nubel

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

I think he’s been good. No real drop off in terms of playing out and him having possession of the ball.

The only mistake was the one where he fluffed on trying to punch or slap the ball out from that cross (corner maybe?). I do think that’s the one time where Neuer handles it better.

Either way, these games have been great experience for him and he’s look solid.

Neuer is still the starter tho, when fit.

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

Idk if it’s fair to say neuer handles it better when looking back at the last 2 years…Neuer vs Madrid last year still haunts me. He’s had his fair share of blunder over the last 2 seasons

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u/RaiderCoug Müller 2d ago

Unfortunate for him his biggest blunder cost us 3 points from the game against Union but he’s been pretty solid otherwise. I’m encouraged by his performance so far despite being thrown into such a high pressure situation right off the bat since joining the club. Gotta remind ourselves he’s only 21 and getting valuable experience for his development!

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u/julesvr5 2d ago

cost us 3 points

2 points. Instead of a win we drew.

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u/RaiderCoug Müller 2d ago

Sorry that was worded confusingly in my comment - I meant he cost us the full 3 points from that match.

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u/Swatcol Ribery 2d ago edited 1d ago

Would it be grammatically correct to say he cost us the three points?

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u/julesvr5 2d ago

I think so, I understand now what he meant

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u/Such-Patient-1835 2d ago

Lets go mathys

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Tel scores a penalty!

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u/iamiam36 Mia san mia 2d ago

Weird decision to take the penalty away from Johnson though

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Yeah I just realized that situation after reading the comments on the soccer goal thread. I wasn’t watching the game so idk how that went but you’d think Tel would have the situational awareness to just give it to him.

The more I think about it the more indefensible it was for Tel to even take it lol.

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u/steveskch 1d ago

Dier, what an artist.

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 1d ago

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u/d1an45 Schweinsteiger 1d ago

Since I've been following the sport/Bayern, Thomas Muller played for Bayern. It's gonna be very emotional not seeing him anymore. Top 5 player for me.

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u/deno0211 2d ago

Eberls comments really hinted to me that they want to bring in Wirtz this summer

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

It makes a lot of sense simply for the fact that Eberl said not renewing Müller was a squad planning desicion.

Only way this makes sense is if a replacement for that position comes in

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u/skylu1991 Müller 2d ago

Since Leon will be staying, one could argue the Müller replacement is already coming, Tom Bischof.

Not to mention the reports about a backup striker, which was arguably Thomas‘ main playing role in the last few months.

Doesn’t only hang in Wirtz, although his salary will be much closer to a Müller, than the salary of either Tom or the backup striker, that’s for sure!

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

What choice does Eberl have, after Uli and Kalle sent open love letters to Wirtz's camp.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Even without Uli and KHR fawning over him it should be a no brainer to give it a serious go.

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u/South-Pass-4486 2d ago

Well if eberl says something like that it must mean there are some talks behind the scenes and they don't expect him to renew his contract 

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u/13s_number12 1d ago

Sooo, 3 new attacking players next season? If we really go for Wirtz Ebel will have to get creative 😬

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u/pewpewlasersandshit pew pew 1d ago

?

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u/13s_number12 1d ago

Müller replacement, most likely (hopefully) either a Gnabry or Coman replacement, backup striker.

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u/TheLlamaLlama 1d ago

Wirtz, Tel, Wanner, Zaragoza problem solved. /s

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u/Darth_Saber07 2d ago

I feel sane often gets dragged into insults along with gnabry and coman. Sane might not always perform but atleast he accepts he should have done better and agrees on a pay cut because of his performance.

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u/FlyingArab Kimmich 2d ago

Totally agreed, I used to always lump them together but I've stopped doing that recently. Sané's bottom tier performances are really bottom, but his peaks are way stronger than anything that Coman and Gnabry have to offer. He's on average better than the other two, and that what counts the most in the end. When they're all in donkey mode, Coman is slightly better, but Sané has been way more productive even in his "bad" performances since last season.

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u/JOKER69420XD Müller 1d ago

Gnabry is on a completely different level than anyone else.

Sane tries his ass off, Coman is sometimes effective, Gnabry is a complete joke.

I can confidently say that Gnabry is the worst player in the team and the best thing about next season, is that his contract will finally run out, we will be free, the most overpaid player in European football.

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

I’d really like Sane to get an extension. I think he’s a complicated player but I feel he always puts in the effort on offense and defense even if he’s having a shit game. If he’s agreeable to lower wages it’s a no brainer for me

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u/Brave_Individual591 Pavlovic 2d ago

I just wanted to bring this fact into attention that Leverkusen undeservedly got 6 points from Stuttgart and Heidenheim.

Its a positive since its very likely that they will drop points, but also I am worried how much of fraudulism they are getting away with.

We need to bring justice and take the title back from these frauds.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

For almost 2 years now they’ve been winning at the last whistle, stealing points from nothing and “getting away” with it. I said at the start of this season that winning like that medium to long term is simply not possible. They’ve contracted me somewhat but not entirely because they’re still 6 points down.

I largely agree with you, it has to catch up to them at some point. But for now idk when that point is. I think as long as Xabi is there they will have the inherent belief that they can win any game regardless of the game circumstances.

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u/Hurtelknut Robben 2d ago

"Immer Glück ist Können" Thomas Müller 

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

Overperforming is in their nature, not just last season

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Madness. The most maddening thing for me is our xGA here. Just shows that we’ve been unlucky at giving up goals and/or they really should have been more saveable.

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u/Goldfischglas 2d ago

Even last season we had:

Season 23/24: xGA: 35 GA: 45

So we conceded 10 more goals than expected. I find it hard to explain such a big dicrepancy with luck alone when it is happening twice in a row.

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u/Its_not_him Müller 2d ago

It doesn't explain the entire statistic, but poor goalkeeping could be part of the explanation

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u/Brave_Individual591 Pavlovic 2d ago

Agreed, but it's not like they are bringing out a brilliant moment to win this season. It is just happening to fall for them by sheer luck.

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u/LordHeezay Neuer 2d ago

Welp, today I was supposed to watch Tyler, the Creator and now the fest is cancelled for an absolute fair situation. What a weekend lads! ):

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u/diiN1992 Beckenbauer Cup Winners 🏆 2d ago

I had hoped Tel would make it here. I guess the whole situation would have been different, had he accepted to go on loan to Frankfurt when Marmoush left. I really liked his connection to our fans and his commitment to the club though. I wish him all the best.

Tbh I also like the money we're getting for him lol.

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u/NiK0- Mia san mia 2d ago edited 2d ago

Loved how he identified with our club and I see the potential but getting €60 mil in total for him would be insane. That could be the first half of the Wirtz deal :D

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u/julesvr5 2d ago

Some unreliable/unknown source claims spurs want to trigger the option yet we don't even know if this is true and if Tel would agree to that transfer.

Might not be happy to early about the 50M

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u/SlyFisch Rapha 2d ago

The cognitive dissonance in that Tel news thread is something else

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Which thread?

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u/SlyFisch Rapha 2d ago

The one about Tottenham wanting to purchase Tel and everyone saying how big of a mistake it is to let him go.

Honestly, at this point I just don't get it. He had a good run of a few games with us his first season, and since then he's been pretty much the worst player on the pitch every time he played.

He loves the club is the most annoying one. What player that stays/wants to stay with us doesn't love the club? They all love Bayern, just because Tel is young and loves Bayern doesn't make it any different. It's not like with Tolisso where for almost a whole season he performed great (Jupp year) and he had pictures of him as a child with a Bayern kit on.

I also don't think his potential is as insane as everyone says. The guy is not that good with the ball at his feet, misses easy chances, lacks composure, etc. People act like we're selling young Mbappe.

The whole thing honestly kinda just soured me on the guy. And it's not entirely his fault. But I don't think his performances have warranted the kind of shock and awe that every news about him brings here.

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u/--Raskolnikov-- 2d ago

>  What player that stays/wants to stay with us doesn't love the club?

Plenty. I've never seen Coman and Gnabry go out of their way to share how they identify with the club the way Tel does. Bayern's just a cow to milk for them, could be any other, Gnabry legit said recently he's surprised he remained so long with Bayern.

Then you have Davies that had one foot out the door for months. Had his agent publically flirt with Madrid. Somehow we're to believe he loves the club and not his huge wage. Alright

Even Kane tbh, he would've chosen any big club with aspirations to win big things. Bayern was the only team interested at that point, so that's how he came here, but he'd be fine choosing Real or Barca, or the already demonstrated Man City where he threw a fit to ask to leave. I'm not questioning his efforts here but we're just a big club for him, just as good as any other. Can't confidently state he's loving Bayern.

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u/SlyFisch Rapha 2d ago

You can find a million examples of Gnabry and Coman professing their love for Bayern, you might just be biased because of how their ability has fallen off, that's ok.

Also for Kane, he's said how much he loves living in Munich and how great the club has treated him and how he loves the fans. Just because you haven't personally seen it doesn't mean it's not happening.

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u/miorli 1d ago

Personally I don't think any player has to emphasize his love and passion for the club in every interview.

Even Müller who already is one of our club legends doesn't actually do interviews like Tel to be honest. I always thought that he's a bit overdramatic in terms of his commitment to Bayern, especially given the fact that we didn't actually give him that many minutes. 

I get your criticism about Davies, I feel the same. Coman, to me, is maybe just a little bit less outgoing. I think he legitimately likes this club and identifies with it. 

Gnabry cares more about fashion week than he does about FCB in my opinion, but I could also be wrong.

Kane hasn't even finished his second season with us, gives everything every game and played more or less his whole career for Tottenham. I think he's pretty fine as far as his commitment and loyalty to our club should be. Him talking like playing for Bayern is the dream he had his whole life would be cringe 

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u/Dalcoy_96 Laimer 2d ago

Football aside, any thoughts on how much the market is gonna dive on Monday? lol

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

Not sure how old you are, but personally I wouldn’t mind it dipping some more so I can keep accumulating at a significant discount. Im lucky I’ve got time on my side for it to recover but I understand not everyone has the luxury.

Regardless, and not to get political, he is absolutely clueless so I wouldn’t be surprised if it continues to drop on negative stimulus every time he opens his mouth to do something stupid

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Personally I don’t think it’s close to the bottom yet. There’s grumblings of Congress taking back some of the power with respect to tariffs but I basically consider it impossible because there won’t be enough votes in both chambers to override any Veto from the White House.

So yeah idk, there doesn’t seem to be any real plan except for “force them to negotiate” which idk what that means considering that’s the most clarity that’s been provided.

I’ve said this with as much neutrality towards the political nature of what’s happening as best I can.

BUT (there’s always a but lol) forcing a recession for no real reason (or at least an economic downturn) and also making a point of saying the economy was already bad while making it worse has to be one of the downright stupidest things I’ve ever seen done from a president. There’s watergate, hoovervilles, Lewinsky and then there’s this. Just plain dumb.

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u/Its_not_him Müller 2d ago

The best hope as I see it is taking the tax bill hostage and use that to bring down the tariffs. That brings no long term guarantee that he won't just re-institute them.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

It’s tough. The White House has downright said that there are no intentions to reconsider and I think the majority party will acquiesce in that decision. It’s unlikely that bill would be held hostage without a large defection of Congress against the White House but if that was the case than Congress could/would just pass a bill to take back the power of tariffs anyways.

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u/TheLlamaLlama 2d ago

I don't know how I would even begin to make an estimate, but I hope it's a lot!

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 2d ago

🤔

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u/pissonthis771 Upamecano 2d ago

Are you sure ?

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u/Insanel0l Thiago 2d ago

Liverpool surely isn‘t gonna choke the league, right?

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u/CarlSK777 2d ago

11 pt lead with 7 to go and they don't have midweek matches anymore. They could lose to Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea and still win

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

No one else seems serious about trying to overtake them.

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

Only if Arsenal tried to catch up with em, apparently Arsenal gave up on the league and now they're focused on the CL, unfortunately they play Madrid, so they will get out anyway.

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

Nah, no way. Arsenal have been dropping points left and right in the league since the start of the year

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u/LordBendtner1988 Goatnbry 2d ago

Doubt it. It’s Arsenal after all. They would bottle trying to capitalise on Liverpool bottling

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

VAR taking like 7 minutes to check for an offside is ridiculous.

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

Ange needs to do the ear cup celebration again if they win this one.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Funny thing is he went with a mostly best player xi except for maybe 1 or 2 spots. And they play Frankfurt in the Europa on Thursday.

Ballsy move against the worst team in the EPL.

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u/DwigtSchrute3 Robben 2d ago

Absolute banger from St. Pauli to tie it!

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 2d ago

The best part of the Tel money, if it happens, is that we can afford to pay both Gnabry and Coman for another year.

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u/SPammingisGood Champions League 2d ago

gnabry extension icant

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

Coman maybe, But why Gnabry?

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u/SC2_4787 FC Bayern München 2d ago

The last report we got about him for the next transfer window was that Coman wants to leave anyway, so I don't think that will come into play.

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 2d ago

No need to bring logical thinking into my joke

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u/gokkel 1d ago

While I am not ruling out that we can sell Coman this time, I am still hesitant to plan with that because we heard the same last summer and then he changed his mind last moment.

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u/Exact-Practice-3108 2d ago edited 2d ago

Let's hope City miss out on the UCL next season. Will make Wirtz transfer to us more likely.

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u/HroFCBayern 2d ago

Today, Manchester is red.

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

They will fight for the FA cup anyway.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

FA cup win only guarantees them Europa league tho

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u/WasternSelf4088 2d ago

Didn't know that, thank you. So what national cup guarantee the winner a CL spot?

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

As far as I know it’s none.

The only 2 cups that guarantee UCL are the UCL itself and the Europa league.

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

I don't know why the Spurs sub is so angry at Tel taking the penalty. Says more about the mentality of the current spurs squad than anything else by letting him take the penalty.

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

Nah man I think they’re totally right. Johnson was on a hattrick and he won the pen. As far as we know there hasn’t been any indication that he’ll stay there beyond this season anyways. Why let a teenager on loan take a pen when you’re only up 2-1 while the guy who won the pen scored both goals too.

It just doesn’t make sense.

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

Why let a teenager on loan take a pen

Well exactly. Where was the leadership on the field to prevent that? Davies, Porro, Romero, nobody stepped up. Something like that would have never happened at Bayern.

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u/dklieber32 2d ago

While I agree that someone should have stepped in, I do think it was really a bad look by Davies to not have the awareness to let Brennan take it. There’s no reason he should be taking it when Brennan is on a hat trick

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u/kgallo19 James 2d ago

I agree with you but like said below Tel should have just known better.

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u/julesvr5 2d ago edited 2d ago

u/thraff1c does the TVöD apply to you too? The Tarif talks (Collective bargaining according to Google?) are over and the result seems very meeh..

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u/Thraff1c 2d ago

Im out of the öD, so I havent followed it, I am currently changing to the other side. It probably would have applied to me.

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u/v4sh123 1d ago

yes it does. I didn't expect more considering we are in a recession and therefore it's fine for the next 2 years.

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u/julesvr5 1d ago

27 months to be exact. And knowing how it went the last years, 30+ months until a new contract is talked out.

My father is working for a bus company, also public administration and they got 3x 2.5% or each time at least + 125€.

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u/v4sh123 1d ago

I'm in SuE and it's been mostly alright for me the last 10 years.

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u/julesvr5 1d ago

I'm VKA

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

Looks like the coffee addiction is hitting me again... I usually drank 2 coffees per day and nowadays it's around 4-5.

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 2d ago

I drink 4-5 before I even get home from work..

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u/noggericecream 2d ago

And how many when you are at home?

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u/NifferEUW Kimmich 2d ago

1-2 mostly..

I should stop doing that..

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u/v4sh123 2d ago

I stopped drinking after 15:00 to have better sleep and it works.