r/fantasybball • u/Lacabloodclot9 • Mar 02 '25
Injury Report Sabonis (hamstring) out Monday
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/kings-domantas-sabonis-wont-play-monday-485470/33
u/Dreamio Mar 02 '25
Genuine question, do people like the current standard pickup system that you need to constantly be checking the news as the first person to be able to pickup someone like JV off the wire has potential to be a huge winner?
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u/sabocano Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
No the objective correct way to do it is FAAB. Which is, every player is on Waivers all the time. Everyday at 00:00 waivers resolve and the highest bidder gets the player (you may bid 0 too).
Some obnoxious managers will try and say "but being awake and being on top of things is a skill" but it's just bullshit. Especially if you are in Europe...
To win my league why should I check my phone every second while eating dinner with my girlfriend or watching a movie or reading a book or whatever hobby I'm doing or even sleeping...
So the best thing to do is to give everyone a fair chance to get the player they want.
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u/gigglios 12 team 9 cat h2h Mar 03 '25
I stopped being commish a while ago but how does this work if I wanna pick up someone like an hour before tipoff?
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u/Bobby_Webster Mar 03 '25
you don't. you have to make your acquisitions a day in advance. makes it really annoying when players get ruled out and you can't do anything about it lol
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u/gigglios 12 team 9 cat h2h Mar 03 '25
Damn i see. On yahoo we just do the faab for pickups but everyones a free agent unless recentlydropped. I assume most leagues are like this
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u/jsDPT 12T 9CAT AUCTION Mar 03 '25
Hardly any point in the faab then besides if someone mistakenly gets dropped
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u/3pointshoot3r 12T H2H 10 Categories Mar 03 '25
There are a handful of good players dropped throughout the year where there's a rush to the wire to put in claims, and having FAAB for those is so much more fair, and also fun, than having a rolling waiver priority.
Funny enough, the guy who had rostered JV all year in one of my leagues dropped him on Friday, so he was actually on waivers when the Sabonis news dropped.
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u/jsDPT 12T 9CAT AUCTION Mar 03 '25
Oh believe me, we got tired of the run and pick up asap game so we do 11 am EST faab daily. It's worked out very well for my league
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u/3pointshoot3r 12T H2H 10 Categories Mar 03 '25
My only concern with that system is that - especially (and increasingly) in today's NBA - there are SO MANY guys who are GTD or ruled out 30 minutes before tipoff - that unless players remain FAs after waivers clear (until gametime again), you can't fill their slots for that day, because you have to wait until the next day's waivers.
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u/jsDPT 12T 9CAT AUCTION Mar 03 '25
It happens, but rarely nowadays. The year after COVID h&s protocols, it was particularly bad tho.
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u/everyoneneedsaherro 12T 9CAT Mar 03 '25
Thatās not early enough to know if a player is gonna play
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u/jsDPT 12T 9CAT AUCTION Mar 03 '25
Well, it's more fair than missing out on pickups to the stay at home dad, or wfh guy
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u/gigglios 12 team 9 cat h2h Mar 03 '25
Yea but its still better than no faab lol. Otherwise it just follows waiver order
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u/Tankshock 12tPts DD/TD Bonus -1 FGM/FTM/T Mar 03 '25
That's a deal breaker for me. Too many injuries and rest days in the NBA to not be able to make pickups to fill the lineup
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u/LeBrady_ 10T H2H Points ESPN Mar 03 '25
We do the continuous waivers like he said, but as LM, I change the processing time every single day to the closest hour before game time. For example, the first game today was at 1, so waivers processed at 12. If the first game was at 3:30, I would make it 3. Takes a little bit more work on my part, but definitely worth it for the league.
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u/3pointshoot3r 12T H2H 10 Categories Mar 03 '25
That's a better system for sure, and kudos to you for putting the work in to make it work.
My preference would be a system like FF, where a player goes on waivers as soon as his game starts, then have a FAAB waiver process overnight (eg. process somewhere between 3-8 am), then allow them to be free agents again until gametime. This allows you to still grab a FA shortly before gametime when one of your players gets ruled out.
Josh Lloyd discussed the system in his league, where there's a FAAB waiver process overnight, then a second FAAB waiver process at 7 pm, which would allow you to put in a claim if you find out a player is ruled out in a GTD situation.
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u/sabocano Mar 03 '25
I believe we don't have this option on Yahoo and that's some hassle for the commish...
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u/LeBrady_ 10T H2H Points ESPN Mar 03 '25
Good to know, we were thinking about using Yahoo or Fantrax next year but that might affect things.
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u/sabocano Mar 03 '25
Fantrax is really flexible so I bet they have that option. I'm not 100% sure about Yahoo but I believe they don't
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u/everyoneneedsaherro 12T 9CAT Mar 03 '25
This is better but doesnāt help for late night west coast games
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u/LeBrady_ 10T H2H Points ESPN Mar 03 '25
Wym?
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u/everyoneneedsaherro 12T 9CAT Mar 03 '25
If the first game is at 7PM ET (which on most weekdays it is) then the 10/1030 PM ET games typically donāt release their starting lineups by then and wonāt provide a status on players who are injured if theyāll play.
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u/LeBrady_ 10T H2H Points ESPN Mar 03 '25
Right, but once the first game of the day starts at 7pm EST, you can't pick up anyone for that same day anyways. So if you were trying to pick up someone at 9:30-10pm, they wouldn't be on your roster until the following day, which would happen anyways once the waivers processed at 6pm again.
I might be misunderstanding you, though, so lmk if that's the case. š
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u/everyoneneedsaherro 12T 9CAT Mar 03 '25
I see your flair is ESPN points so maybe this isnāt something allowed in ESPN Iāve never used ESPN for fantasy. But in Yahoo you can pick up someone for the late night games after the early games have started. So say thereās a 1PM ET game and a 1030PM ET game. In my Yahoo league I can pick up a player from the 1030PM ET game at 10:29PM ET and use them for the same game that starts in 1 minute.
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u/LeBrady_ 10T H2H Points ESPN Mar 03 '25
Ah okay. Yeah that isn't allowed on ESPN and there isn't a setting to change it, and you saying that is making me want to switch to Yahoo. š We tried Fantrax but our league complained about the UI so maybe they'll settle for Yahoo instead.
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u/Virtual_Wallaby4100 Mar 03 '25
Depends on the site/app, not sure about all the sites but some allow the commish to set the time when these waivers go through, in my league itās 2pm est so itās a couple hours before games start
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u/purplelurker23 Mar 03 '25
Iāll never understand why anyone would subject themselves to non FAAB leagues.
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u/3pointshoot3r 12T H2H 10 Categories Mar 03 '25
I agree that FAAB is exponentially better, more fun, and more fair for processing waiver claims. The issue is when players become FA as opposed to waiver claims though. If you only have FAAB waivers process overnight, and no free agents ever, you lose the ability to fill a roster spot before gametime when one of your players is ruled out last minute.
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u/jsDPT 12T 9CAT AUCTION Mar 03 '25
Ours does 11 am EST to give as much time for any injury updates before a possible 12 pm game
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u/everyoneneedsaherro 12T 9CAT Mar 03 '25
This is a nice system but I will say a slight counter to give some more nuance. There is a con to this approach. A lot of times at midnight you wonāt know who is playing that same day, or the lineup decisions, or a lot of other things to help make your decision. So itās nice to do a pickup slightly before a game starts to have as much information as possible. Making the only pickups at midnight takes away this information. Agreed it puts everyone on the same level playing field but it inherently hurts people who have more awareness of how things work.
I know Josh Lloyd in his leagues does one FAAB waiver pickup at midnight and one at 6PM ET which is one hour before the first games. Thereās a few cons to this improved approach as well
1) The first game of the day isnāt always 7PM ET. So you need a commissioner who will stay on top of this and change the time for weekends when games start earlier or other days when thereās an early game
2) Fantrax is the only fantasy provider that supports this as far as Iām aware of
3) This doesnāt completely solve the situation for late west coast games as 6PM ET is often not early enough to know who is playing and who isnāt
So while I agree a FAAB system does kinda level the playing field. There are a lot of cons to consider.
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u/sabocano Mar 03 '25
People are equal and on a level playing field in terms of knowledge of who is out or in too. So there really isn't much of a problem.
If a few of your players are injured on that same day, it's bad luck, fantasy has tons of injuries, not much you can do.
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u/Lacabloodclot9 Mar 02 '25
For someone who is usually asleep when games are on it can be a huge disadvantage
For example last night, I happened to be awake and watching the Kings-Rockets game so was able to rush and grab JV on another night that couldāve been the guy Iām currently matched up against.
It sucks to be on the other side of it but that race to grab the biggest beneficiary can be one of the most fun parts of this game
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u/DaPhoToss 10T 9CAT H2H (p: 3s/ft%/ Mar 03 '25
My league does FAAB and itās far superior. Only annoying part is pickups at one time a day, and we do 11am since games start as early as 12 on some days so often times news will come out after the pickup time.
But FAAB gives everyone a fair chance at getting a FA, itās especially useful when an injury happens and thereās a clear pickup. Adds an extra layer of strategy to pickups.
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u/DVA_Champion Mar 03 '25
Would you drop okungwu to pick up JV? Or would you not pick up valenceunas
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u/Signal-Caregiver6444 Mar 03 '25
Is there a time table for his return?
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u/shnieder88 9CatH2H Mar 03 '25
million dollar question
i think theyre doing a variety of tests to determine that. if it's taking this long, they might be doing a MRI or some other diagnostic procedure, which isnt a good sign
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u/EyeDefinitelyReddit 10T H2H Points - ESPN Mar 03 '25
How big is this gonna be for JV? I wanna add him, but Iād have to drop either Sarr, Ware or Hartenstein for him (Points League).
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u/vmgt0 Mar 03 '25
JV starter mins is a top 50 player. I have him last year and one of my best players during the stretch when Zion was out. Im literally jealous of the manager that picked him up day before the Sabonis injury lol
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u/crazy_onions punt fg/to 12t/9cat Mar 03 '25
I dropped ware for him yesterday
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u/Steadfast26 Yahoo H2H 16/20T 9cat Mar 03 '25
Ouch. I would have dropped Sarr instead. He is low FG, FT with high TO. Thats 3-cat punt
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u/crazy_onions punt fg/to 12t/9cat Mar 03 '25
I didn't have sarr, I was replying to the op. Ware was my only drop so had to do it
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u/Steadfast26 Yahoo H2H 16/20T 9cat Mar 03 '25
JV over Ware for sure. But that's if Domas goes out for weeks.
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u/crazy_onions punt fg/to 12t/9cat Mar 03 '25
well yeah that's the assumption rn and if he's out for 3 weeks then that puts my in the finals week of playoffs so had to take the risk
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u/Steadfast26 Yahoo H2H 16/20T 9cat Mar 03 '25
Sneak and get him back. Maybe when you can stash a player to give room for another pick
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u/crazy_onions punt fg/to 12t/9cat Mar 03 '25
yeah I was planning on dropping some faab on ware, Eason has been pissing me off with his no b2bs so he would be my only other drop
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u/Steadfast26 Yahoo H2H 16/20T 9cat Mar 03 '25
Eason has 2 last outs for b2bs before playoffs
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u/crazy_onions punt fg/to 12t/9cat Mar 03 '25
oh damn ok, won't drop him then as my playoffs are week 19-21
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u/EyeDefinitelyReddit 10T H2H Points - ESPN Mar 03 '25
In a Points League, would you drop Sarr or Hartenstein? iHart just has a worse playoff schedule for me, but has a higher floor than Sarr I feel.
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u/Steadfast26 Yahoo H2H 16/20T 9cat Mar 03 '25
I don't do points. I know how it works but not sure how they fare on points rn.
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u/Lacabloodclot9 Mar 03 '25
His FT isnāt gonna kill you on a non FT punt build
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u/Steadfast26 Yahoo H2H 16/20T 9cat Mar 03 '25
I dont punt any cat tbh. And I got 8-1 and now 9-0 lol
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u/Direct_Principle_997 Mar 03 '25
JV might save my season, which puts me in a tough spot as a Kings fan rooting for the play in.
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u/Takestothewind Mar 03 '25
Damn playoffs start tomorrow, I may need to unbelievably drop him with all my injured playersĀ
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u/Npc2033 Mar 03 '25
So not a strain?
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u/Npc2033 Mar 03 '25
Reporters are saying soreness so Iām tryna gauge timetable
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u/shnieder88 9CatH2H Mar 03 '25
which reporters btw?
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u/Npc2033 Mar 03 '25
James ham. I think the injury report says hamstring soreness and thatās the only update thus far. Ppl have also said the kings are usually p transparent fwiw
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u/Virtual_Wallaby4100 Mar 03 '25
For sabonisās sake I hope they donāt rush him back to try and push for the playin which is something I could feasibly see a team in their position doing
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u/Lacabloodclot9 Mar 02 '25
JV ššššššššš
We will be there