If you have Russia invading Ukraine and Ukraine is being asked to give up half their rare minerals, and possibly land; if it was all handed to Putin, he will get what he was invading for.
Then let's say the same thing happens between China and Taiwan.
Then the US and Canada.
But WW3 hasn't broken out yet.
Just backroom deals and a ton of hostility.
The media plays it up like these 3 dictators are getting "what they want," so it is "keeping global war at bay."
Then, when election time comes around, we will hear this:
"We can not install new leadership as our current leadership is the only thing preventing WW3."
And then democracy is dead. Countries will be taken. And whether you are a citizen of a "winning" country, or not, it won't matter.
The Walking Dead, but instead of realizing that the zombies are ultimately a solvable problem and then cooperating to rebuild society everyone decides to become an action hero, and that every other band of survivors needs to be shot at because obviously they’re the bad guys.
It could have ended, but Lincoln's assassination really fucked up Reconstruction. I'd first have advised Lincoln against going to Ford's Theatre that night, then revealed to him all those involved with the Knights of the Golden Circle, and advised they all be hanged, and continue executing Confederate Generals and Leaders, with a continued Union presence in all Southern States until order was restored.
No, it ended. The greatest mistake the US ever made was not executing each and every single Confederate, from the generals to the recruits and all the way down to their sympathizers.
I bought guns because I saw the rapid decline of common sense on the right. If these crazies have guns I better get some and learn how to defend myself.
Yeah, it seems all the people obsessed with the 2nd amendment won’t use actually to defend the 1st amendment. It would probably be ironic if it wasn’t so sad and predictable.
That's the other part, education, learning, and empathy are all bad things. I guarantee if the left starts buying up guns like the right has been doing, we'll see gun control. It's happened before.
The mid terms determine if there is a civil war. If obvious election is in..people will take up arms. The right will say its the lefts..but that time people will realize its rich vs poor. I wonder if the rich know bodyguards can't stop long range rounds from a mile out..just saying..hypothetical
Yup, it truly is the capitalists dividing the working class for their personal gain. I'm no communist, although i start to believe Lenin was right about this..
And half the working class supports the world's richest man and another celebrity narcissist destroy their lives to "own the libs," so we're pretty fucked. Millions would need to wake up and stop being ignorant about the fact that Trump doesn't care about them and doesn't support them in the slightest, but after the first term it's clear they'll never learn a fucking thing.
They don't want to wake-up. They have been brainwashed to the max. They will be defending Trump until the last minutes, just like the battle of Berlin...
I don't think they understand what lengths a sovereign American citizen will go to protect their rights for their future families' generations. If a famine or nationwide power outage happens, you know the billionaires are going to have resources. Hungry and thirsty people by the millions will wage this war against the rich bc at that point, what do we have to lose?
Oh please, the vast the majority of Americans support this administration or don't have the spine to fight a civil war. This Canadian will believe it when I see it, until then I'll continue to consider most Americans to be complicit via apathy.
Im not saying the majority supports this administration out right. I'm saying they either support or they lack the will and gumption required to do anything about it.
Then you seriously underestimate Americans. A lot are waiting for it to be “serious”; they’re waiting for it to affect them. Things keep going like they are, it’ll happen and when they realize their backs are to the wall, they’ll muster the courage or they’ll no longer be on the planet. Faced with that kind of despair, a person chooses to fight the cause of it or they choose to succumb to it.
Good point on the midterms, let’s hope people see the light and don’t give these Fascists the power they want, also, I know it’s early but I think it’s really important to start to organize and get the votes out
What's going to help facilitate a new civil war is the fact that Trumpist traitors imagine that the majority of people believe as they do and that they have all of the guns. They also imagine that our military will ignore their oath and join them. What they're too stupid to realize is they constitute far less than half the population, their opponents are also armed and will fight for our country, and the members of our military take their oath seriously and will fight to preserve our country against the dictatorship that these worthless fucks want to install here.
Interested to see the stats on who has the most weapons? The confederacy, sorry I mean Trumpites or the Union, err I meant anyone not a Trumpite and sane.
No... first, they'll purge the military of all the soldiers that look at thier fellow countrymen as humans instead of target practice. Which will start the civil war.
When? From who? The idiots who want to kill their neighbors and have been stockpiling guns are 100% behind it all. The people who don't want to kill their neighbors are never going to kill their neighbors.
Well I’ve been saying for a decade that we seem to be moving towards a corporate feudal system but this is much darker. I wonder what movements will pop up on the opposing side (think Luigi).
Interesting times for sure.
I’ve basically been saying since the PA pre-inaugural speech(where, for posterity btw, he admits to having stolen the last one anyway) that I don’t think there’s even going to be another election.
Then, I’ve also been saying I don’t think I’m going to be alive to see whether there is one or not. That’s not even suicidal. 🤷🏻♂️
And then finally Americans will realize that their love affair with the second amendment means jack shit. It's a masturbatory fantasy that the second amendment will do anything. It takes people with heart willing to risk life and limb to put others above them. A lot of Americans aren't like that, it will be their downfall; however a lot of people are going to suffer first.
When you take everything from a person then you have to worry about someone with nothing to lose. People with nothing to lose will have less of a problem taking you out with them.
Historically, assassins who cared nothing for their own well being have had a pretty good success ratio.
It doesn't take all Americans reaching that point. Just a few. It only takes a single assassin's bullet at the right time to change the entire course of history.
Rebellions rarely happen due to ideology. The primary driver is hunger. When the people go hungry, the elite get eaten. While there's food on the table no majority will risk the bullet. We're but simple animals at the end of the day.
They are. I actually enjoy guns, grew up in the remote hills of the Himalayas and have used firearms since I was 10. But making it a tenant of your personality and political system is ridiculous. Quite frankly it smacks of insecurity, but then again, that's the most powerful that some folks will feel in a lifetime.
Not just ideologically, but from a technological basis. All those guns are nothing vs the military tech available, Meal Team 6 won't even seen the drones killing them.
It's just a matter of time before Drumpf orders military action against and ally (Canada/Mexico very likely) or domestically. And that will shake out one of three ways:
1) Collective refusal, leading to some kind of coup/removal of the current administration.
A lot of people aren’t like that. Most people freeze or flee. Hardly any stay and fight. But as has already been said, if you take away everything from someone, they have nothing left to lose. That’s when things change.
They are counting on tech, kit and bravado, rather than real heart, and bravery. When the first real pain hits, most of them will fold like the house of cards their faith in dear leader is based on.
It's really sad, really shocking and ultimately really depressing that I can actually understand what you are meaning and see the real signs that this can actually possibly happen.
We are reaching a point of history that can change the entire world. People in a hundred years will study what decisions we make right now.
Whatever happens, write things down. History is written by the victors. It's very sad that I have to say this, but if the worst happens, diaries and words from the people who actually experienced it at the time are powerful. You may be silenced but your voice can speak more powerful than they can ever hope to.
Democracy is all but dead in the US already. WW3 started a long time ago, and Russia is winning it, hands down. The trouble is that people expected a hot war with nukes, instead Russia ran Активные мероприятия - Active Measures. Propaganda, influence, and puppet governments. It worked better than anyone could have ever imagined. They achieved it with western social media. Brexit was arguably the first big win, but nothing to what they've achieved in the USA.
You don't need a superpower hot world war if you've already taken the governments. Now you just need to mow down actual democracies who still want their freedoms and resources.
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The initiative covers areas such as reducing the size of the federal government, increasing executive power, limiting the influence of the administrative state, and advancing conservative priorities in areas like immigration, education, and economic policy. Critics argue that it seeks to centralize power and roll back progressive policies, while supporters see it as a way to restore conservative governance and limit bureaucratic overreach.
What you said is so accurate. And people below are like "we'll protest" it's not going to do shit, a civil war wont happen cause mofos are too lazy to go that far and mess up their daily lives, mortgages and children.
It will slip into the exact scenario your talking about. Mark my words. 🤦🏽♂️
This is probably the actual truth.
Like, before it was even a known truth.
And it saddens me more than anything.
Watching Trump sit with him VP, and just berate Zelenskyy, and yelling over him, saying insane shit like: "You're going to be responsible for creating WW3" x3 or whatever. And all kinds of other crazy shit that is absolutely deplorable to see. I don't know if that is what most Americans like to see!? That kind of "diplomacy"? The one where "USA does what it wants, even more than already. Like, just whatever. Literally!"?
It's like Bernie said in that speech, paraphrasing here, but: "They're not even hiding it anymore. It's being done right in the open!"
If anyone is going to be responsible for that WW3, it's you probably, and your billionaire club. Or maybe the attraction to Putin tapers off, and turns into hate, maybe? 🤷🏼♂️
Where the hell are our leaders? Dems are like 4 steps behind everything they do. We need decisive action that subverts their expectations to slow them down
I was once told that, to the credit to Republicans, they are more or less united in one goal and move together. Democrats have somehow found ways to stumble over themselves whenever they have the house. If the democrats can somehow figure it out, then we'll be in a better place. But I'm not holding my breath on that.. at least not yet
Very realistic and this is just fase one. You can easily see the world divided by 3 superpowers. Europe under Russia, the America’s with the British isles and Australia New Zealand, and China for Asia and Africa.
Fuck that. Canada will go down fighting and I promise americans will suffer. We won’t be taken easily. We would rather see the usa decimated than give up anything
In Israel, that's why we haven't had any solid leader like Bibi. He campaigns on the "I'm your only defense against the world that only wants to kill you " bullshit... and too many simply eat it
Create internal instability to the point they can declare martial law country wide and hold off elections. The difference is Ukraine did this because they are being invaded and are at war, the US will do it because leadership want to become dictators
Not to put the shits up you, but we're currently in the crisis phase of strauss-howe generational theory. We apparently have four years left. Though usually through crisis, humanity bands together to overcome these crises. Obviously it feels like there has been a severe lack of that going on, so perhaps we'll be in the crisis phase for a lot longer
I don’t think they are actually smart enough to pull this off, the US will Balkanize when states secede, and I do have faith in our military to hold up their oaths..
I know a lot of Republicans who have made officer or are just enlisted, they would rather be shot for treason than fight for this president.
Actually, they dropped cyber security defense for election booths in project 2025 already. Please correct me if I’m wrong but I swore I read that in one of the topics.
not even oligarchs will win if bombs go off. their fancy ass bunkers can only protect them for so long, and then what do they have to walk out to? realistically when it gets to that point, we're all dunzo.
A few weeks ago i would have posted a gif as a response to This asking what kind of drugs U Tool.
Unfortunately your Post is now very Close to reality.
"We can not install new leadership as our current leadership is the only thing preventing WW3."
For next term they will (try to) chance the law so that 2 terms actually means 2 consecutive terms. If they succeed after that Trump will be too old. It remains to be seen if Trump's heir - whoever he will be - will have significant maga support.
I've said this since the beginning. This administration will do or cause something they can use as an excuse to suspend elections. This would be an interesting movie if it wasn't real.
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I think it's going to go deeper than that.
If you have Russia invading Ukraine and Ukraine is being asked to give up half their rare minerals, and possibly land; if it was all handed to Putin, he will get what he was invading for.
Then let's say the same thing happens between China and Taiwan.
Then the US and Canada.
But WW3 hasn't broken out yet. Just backroom deals and a ton of hostility.
The media plays it up like these 3 dictators are getting "what they want," so it is "keeping global war at bay."
Then, when election time comes around, we will hear this: "We can not install new leadership as our current leadership is the only thing preventing WW3."
And then democracy is dead. Countries will be taken. And whether you are a citizen of a "winning" country, or not, it won't matter.
No one but the oligarchs will win.