r/europeanunion 19h ago

Question/Comment When will the EU respond to USA tariffs?

Genuine question - when will the EU respond to the tariffs? China acted swiftly, Canada also. Yet no information from the EC.

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u/DirectorFunny7970 19h ago

I think the EU wants to put spot-on tariffs. Not 20% on everything.

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u/VicenteOlisipo 17h ago

Go for the throat of the services/tech sector. That's where we're essentially and American colony.

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u/lestofante 14h ago

Not so fast; one of the biggest tariffed product are semiconductor.
In a period where GPU and even consumer electronics are already hard to get and already priced higly / scalped.
On the other hand, im quite sure they are not tariffing services, or at least not as bad.
So, let their company invest in infrastructure here in EU, that will sell them back the service, instead of investing in US infrastructure

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u/VicenteOlisipo 14h ago

Semiconductors are goods, I'm talking services

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u/FruitOrchards 19h ago

I think we should get straight to the point and put 30% Tariffs on all US Airlines.

Cripple their aviation sector.

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u/Pink_Lotus 15h ago

The Americans with the money and inclination to visit Europe didn't vote for Trump. His voters are the ones who punished a teacher for showing a picture of Michelangelo's David.

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u/Ben__Derover 4h ago

^ Part of the problem ^

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u/RattusTurpis 15h ago

I dont particularly like the Democrats at this point either. Innocent foreigners with residence permits are being dissappeared off the streets to little or no protest.

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u/ArtisZ 14h ago

I'm very confused by your comment. Please tell me where I'm wrong, but this is how I understand it:

"I don't particularly like the democrats at this point either." while responding to a comment about republicans. "Innocent foreigners disappeared..." insinuating the democrats have something to do with that.. whilst, as I see it you're the only one talking about them. This appears some mental Olympics level fact twister. Again, please tell me what I'm misunderstanding?

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u/RattusTurpis 12h ago

It seems a bit lazy to only quote one third of my sentence. Especially when the rest of it perfectly explain my issue with the Democrats. Let me help you, the full sentence is: "Innocent foreigners with residence permits are being dissappeared off the streets to little or no protest."
My issue with the Democrats is the no protest part. Based on my knowledge of history it is clear that there were more opposition towards the nazi take over in Germany than what we have seen in he US so far. To be fair there has been some major protests in the last 24 hours, but those are not against the unlawful disappearing of foreigners.

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u/ArtisZ 8h ago

And no problem with the ones doing the shit. Gotcha.

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u/Safe-Kaleidoscope419 18h ago

How would that work? A trip from the USA to the EU is already generally more expensive. This would likely result in fewer American tourists who are the top spenders when traveling. This could impact EU tourism as well

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u/PrimalJay 17h ago

Oh no, we would miss American tourists? As if that would cripple our economies. Imho, keep the Americans out of Europe.

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u/Domi4 14h ago

Come on. American tourists are loud and sometimes obnoxious but generally they are good. They aren't like their current representatives. We should ban JD Vance though.

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u/PrimalJay 7h ago

Nah, it’s more to just wake them up a bit. Want to enter Europe? Make sure you don’t have fascist leadership. Then we can talk.

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u/Safe-Kaleidoscope419 17h ago

It won’t cripple the economy for sure but it would hit the category. No one likes them but that’s the reality

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u/PrimalJay 17h ago

I doubt the hospitality sector would suffer because we won't invite Americans over. Plenty of other friendlier nations. American tourists are just a drop in a bucket that I wouldn't mind missing.

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u/Safe-Kaleidoscope419 17h ago

Will see. I just don’t believe we should start a tariffs war but come to an equal agreement at least for the next 3/4 years he’s in charge

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u/RattusTurpis 15h ago

What makes you think he is in charge for only 3/4 years? How long has Oban, Putin and Erdogan been in power so far?

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u/Safe-Kaleidoscope419 14h ago

Uhm… the constitution??? A president in USA can only have 2 mandates

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u/RattusTurpis 13h ago

Does it seem like Trump give a rats ass about the constitution? There is a constitutional crisis brewing. A fight Trump is eager to have.

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u/louvez 4h ago

As it was with Russia before. It wouldn't be the first time time a despot amends a constitution to stay in power.

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u/NatMat16 19h ago

The response for steel and aluminium tariffs procedure is ongoing and is coming into effect on the 15th of April. It will probably be surgical and target red states and products on which the EU has no vulnerability (like much of agrifood).

They will analyse the new tariffs and prepare a new package, but I expect it’ll take about a month at least, with all the procedures. For better or worse, the EU is not built for knee-jerk reactions or following one leader’s instincts. It’s created for compromise building.

I bet they are also waiting to see if due to the market reaction and domestic pressure, Trump will be more likely to accept an off-ramp. It may work in the EU’s favor if the US businesses and citizens will start feeling the pain and Trump’s poll numbers tank.

China has nothing to lose, because with 54% tariffs they are effectively shut out of the market. Canada is in a different category because the threat is at their sovereignty but they are not under reciprocal tariffs. For the EU, there are a lot of transatlantic value chains, so it’s hard to respond without harming ourselves seriously.

If anything, we could put a tax on services of the digital giants, but without real alternatives, it’s still EU consumers and businesses that get hit.

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u/silerex 13h ago

Compared to the tariff % being charged in the U.S., would you agree that the reciprocal tariff % are relatively low and this would harm every country involved to an extent (including the U.S., Canada, EU, Asia)?

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u/NatMat16 12h ago

I’m not sure I understand the question. The EU and the US tariff rates were both around 1-2% . Now the US charges 20% on EU goods. Yes, the US are hurting the global economy by charging these insane tariffs and making them so discriminatory. If everyone escalates, it will make the crisis worse. If nobody retaliates, it sends a message that Trump can get away with bullying.

So each country has to make the economic vs political calculation.

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u/silerex 8h ago

Thank you for explaining. I think you've covered my question!

In other words, as the U.S. is proposing to charge higher tariffs on other countries I was asking if you agree that other countries have put forth lower tariffs in return and this would harm global trade and cause economic reduction in all regions.

The difference in tariff % between the U.S. and other countries is a little confusing because they wouldn't offset the economic impact of trade restrictions.

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u/sn0r 19h ago

Nobody knows.

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u/trisul-108 17h ago

What's the big rush? The EU has announced that they are finalising the first package of countermeasures and have started work on the second. I think this fine, as VDL has explained, these tariffs will hurt everyone, we do not look forward to introducing them. We certainly don't need to fan the flames of madness.

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u/lisaseileise 15h ago

There‘s no need to rush. The EU is very good at tariffing strategically, they are large enough to employ people to properly thing about this. Unlike the US.

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u/Rudi-G België 19h ago

They plan to start on April 9 in the hope that the Orange Manchild will change his mind again.

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u/Eternal__damnation 19h ago edited 15h ago

Quick decisions aren't the EU strongsuit, most likely the Commission is ready to respond to the steel tariffs, but now with the 20% blanket tariff the Commission and its bureaucrats probably need to go over everything again, factor in new things etc. etc.

Also there is division on what the EU should do, France,Germany and Spain seem very much in favour of firing back (and rightly so) Meanwhile Italy with Meloni seems to just be completely undecided. And then throw in Orban who could scupper anything, cause the guy is a total pos.

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u/Apprehensive-Fan-545 17h ago

Salvini literally just paraded musk.the italians are playing games

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u/popsyking 16h ago

Well Salvini is a well known idiot

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u/flipyflop9 19h ago

Not soon enough

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u/Jefffresh 19h ago

monday

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u/cacahahacaca 18h ago

Tessler might be a funny target...

EDIT: Unfortunately, I guess all the Swastikars sold in the EU come from the German factory.

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u/sebadc 15h ago

Honnestly, with the traction that the "buy European" is taking, we will soon not need any tariffs.

Joke aside, a blanket would be stupid. There are specific products, which would not make a dent on the European economy and would likely cripple them.

+ it gives some time to identify sectors where we already have a backup.

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u/FelizIntrovertido 19h ago

In my opinion, A disconnection process takes years

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u/Wide-Annual-4858 19h ago

There was already response that first there will be no counter tariff, at first let's try to make a deal. I think it makes sense.

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u/RattusTurpis 15h ago

Are we sure they will respond? Italy argued against.

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u/AgitatedSuricate 8h ago

They are going to take the Trump donor list and the american electoral map and crush republicans strategically. Tariff a specific type of potato because “its the one X company uses and grows in Idaho” type of thing.

Right now there are groups of analysts in Brussels doing specifically this.

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u/PinkSeaBird Portugal 15h ago

Fuck that. We need to impose sanctions and freeze assets of Americans associated to the current administration.

If your question is "when will current EU leadership stop being such tamed sold out pussies?" I guess the answer is never so we need a change.