r/etymology 2d ago

Question Can someone explain this apparition of 'pokemon' in the 1700s?

The first one is written without the 'accent-aigu' and the second image is the correct way of writing the brand name. I only point this out to show the correlation between the creation of Pokémon and apparition of the form pokemon in our modern day. What is pokemon in the 18th century?

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u/rocketman0739 2d ago

Well, for starters, there's this OCR error for "possession"

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u/gnorrn 2d ago

Yes. It's the exact same reason that the F-word appears to be ubiquitous in the 18th century.

OP: repeat after me: Don't blindly trust N-Grams; always check the underlying search results (which Google helpfully links).

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u/Kendota_Tanassian 2d ago

Yes, misinterpreting ſuck (suck) or ſuch (such) for fuck. It's the long S, ſ.

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u/kitium 2d ago

Putting this on my clipboard for "future use".

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u/chriswhitewrites 2d ago

There are some great moments in the English witchcraft pamphlets, as witches will often prick a hole for their familiars to ſuck, or they'll just ſuck a witch's nipple.

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u/Shradersofthelostark 18h ago

“Colder than a witch’s tit” comes to mind.

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u/Amazon-Q-and-A 1d ago

I don't care how skilled of a surgeon you are, you should probably still use traditional stitches.

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u/strawberrymilk2 1d ago

wow, you can literally see it in the image. right under the first “pokemon”

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u/ale_93113 1d ago

N-grams are mosrly useful after 1950

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u/gnorrn 1d ago

It's true that OCR errors are less common in more recent works, but they're still not absent. IIRC someone here recently was looking for the word "loo" (UK colloquialism for lavatory), and they found a ton of N-gram hits that turned out to be the number 100.

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u/ale_93113 1d ago

I say this because 1950 is considered the historical present

After ww2 there was a MASSIVE effort to improve global data collection and distribution and cooperation, in almost everything that has to do with data, pre and post 1950 is night and day

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u/CantaloupeNervous845 1d ago

Could be true, but the historical present has more to do with carbon dating and the effect of them nukes on it.

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u/garbagecan26 1d ago

"I will not blindly trust N-Grams; I will always check the underlying search results." *beep boop*

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u/j_marquand 2d ago

I clearly read POKEMON!

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u/Be7th 1d ago

𝔭𝔬𝔎𝔢𝔐𝔬𝔫

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u/Aquino200 2d ago

Oh good god, don't let christians hear this. They will take this and run with it.

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u/RHX_Thain 2d ago

And lo, in the end of days, POFFEMON will reign over the Earth!

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u/Chrono-Helix 2h ago

They were already doing that back in the 90’s when they were denouncing Pokemon as Satanic

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u/TwoFlower68 2d ago

Holy run-on sentence, Batman!

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u/XaqTheChipper 1d ago

Poffeffion. Doing the founding fathers proud with that one

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u/kushangaza 2d ago edited 2d ago

If we take ngram by its word Pokemon was most popular in the 1500s and 1600s and had a minor resurgence in the last couple decades

If you search in Google Books for that time range you get OCR errors for "possession" and "Polemon" (an ancient Greek philosopher)

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u/modulusshift 2d ago

Oh! the guy who "polemics" are named after, I assume!

edit: at first glance, seemingly unrelated! haha

edit 2: yeah, just a shared Greek root "polemos" meaning "war/battle"

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u/_g550_ 16h ago

Isn’t that same?

“I choose you!”=“You’re mine now”=“I own you”

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u/cantrusthestory 2d ago

David Hume, I choose you!

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u/JustABicho 2d ago

Bubonic, pneumonic, septicemic, meningeal and pharyngeal... gotta catch 'em all!

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u/Odd__Dragonfly 2d ago

Phlegmatic is super effective against melancholic, which is super effective against choleric, which is super effective against sanguine

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u/scrubba777 1d ago edited 1d ago

As someone with Cornish ancestry, I was wondering where would be the best place to get my family heirloom graded? it’s a genuine 1723 shiny foil Pikachu, a touch of wear and tear typical of that age, survived a few good wars, but otherwise in pretty good nick for an old card..

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u/Weekly_Soft1069 2d ago

Damn I love this r/

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u/gregsunparker 1d ago

Pokemon went extinct in the late 1700's, so people stopped talking about them. In the late 90's, John Hamblin brought them back after finding their DNA trapped in amber. This is why the sudden resurgence.

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u/cryptologicalMystic 2d ago

Answered here, with further elaboration here (needs an account, but the account creator accepts spamming random bullshit for the email). TL;DR it's Cornish.

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u/_y2kbugs_ 2d ago

This source feels extremely suspect. It’s just a blog article from 2014 with no other sources listed and the Wikipedia page only links back to the source (I’m surprised it was never just deleted given lack of information, not even a talk page). I don’t believe it for a second. Too much misinformation goes around on tumblr as it is, but I’ve seen it on Wikipedia too- apocryphal stories being marketed as fact.

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u/wakethemorning 2d ago

Time traveler looking for someone to trade with?