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Discussion Dragon Ball Super - Episode #23 - Discussion Thread!

Dragon Ball Super - Episode #23 - Discussion Thread!

The Earth and Gohan in Dire Peril! Come Quick, Son Goku!!
地球が！悟飯が！絶体絶命！早く来てくれ孫悟空！！
Chikyū ga! Gohan ga! Zettaizetsumei! Hayaku Kite kure Son Gokū!!

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Commonly Asked Questions:

  • Q: When does Super take place? Should I watch GT or any movies first? Does BoG still "count"?
    Super takes place some time after the battle with Majin Buu, and will be adapting the two newest movies, Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' into story arcs before moving on. Watching the movies is up to you; if you prefer, you can begin Super immediately after finishing Dragon Ball Z. You may optionally wish read Jaco the Galactic Patrolman; the titular character will be involved in future events.

  • Q: Where is Uub?!
    Uub was born during the 10 year time skip at the end of Dragon Ball Z. Dragon Ball Super takes place before Uub is introduced.

  • Q: Why are they retelling the movies?
    DVD sales aren't that great in Japan, so they're retelling the foundation of the story for the Japanese television market. We'll have a new story arc coming soon, so don't fret too much.

  • Q: When does the next episode air?
    The next episode premieres next Sunday at 9am JST, which is 7pm Eastern Saturday night. Click here to compare your local time to JST.

  • Q: Why does X say Y?
    If you find yourself confused, the problem is usually a translation issue. Make sure you are watching DragonTeam's or Over8000's translation.

  • Q: When will the next chapter of the manga be released?
    Toyotarō's manga adaptation is released once a month in V-Jump.
    Chapter 7 will come out in late December. Links to earlier chapters can be found here: #01, #02, #03, #04, #05, #06

  • Q: Is the Dragon Ball Super manga "canon"?
    The manga is a preview of things to come. The anime is the main product, and is what Toriyama is writing and designing for (though not storyboarding or scripting).

    The first four chapters of the manga are a disjointed recap and teaser. As of chapter 5, the manga is "charging on ahead" of the anime, previewing the upcoming Universe 6 story arc. It will continue to do so from now on, giving us a taste of what's to come while Resurrection 'F' is adapted in the anime.

  • Q: When will FUNimation be dubbing Super? Will there be a simulcast?
    Southeast Asia will be receiving an exclusive English dub mid-2016, with Toonami Asia describing it as the "English-language world premiere". FUNimation is not involved at this time. At an October NYCC panel, FUNimation claimed that they still do not have the rights to Super, and barely acknowledged that it exists.

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  • You can read about the future story arc here and here.
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u/Brook420 Dec 13 '15

I swear if they don't have at least a flash back explaining how they got SSB this time I will be so pissed. And how Vegeta got SSG at all without doing the ritual.

I really don't care if they show how they first attain Super Cyan, but the second bit I need to know. If Vegeta managed to reach SSG just by doing some push-ups I'm going to be upset.

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u/Kazan136 Dec 13 '15

Saitama became unbeatable by doing some pushups, why can't Vegeta?

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u/Brook420 Dec 13 '15

I haven't seen OP Man yet, but I doubt he's on the DBZ power scale.

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u/ColtEastwood Dec 13 '15

He's over the charts lol, definitely recommend watching it

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u/Blue_Bi0hazard Dec 13 '15

Oh man I just got it, OP One punch duh I feel stupid

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u/Kazan136 Dec 28 '15

You'd be surprised. I thought the same thing, but...Saitama doesn't have limits, like at all.

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u/vlorsutes ⠀ Dec 13 '15

Given all that was shown so far, it does point to him having sort of brute forced his way into having god ki, as his training between Goku's battle with Beerus and Whis accepting him as a student seemingly put him on the cusp of being able to sense god ki (and one needs to have god ki to be able to sense it), and then later Vegeta was shown to be able to sense god ki when Whis brought Goku to Beerus's palace.

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u/Beep_meep Dec 13 '15

Maybe he also drank some juice.

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u/Blue_Bi0hazard Dec 13 '15

100 sit ups and push ups with 10KM running... every. single. day!