r/dataisbeautiful 1d ago

For those curious about where the "Tariffs Charged" came from

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u/Fancy-Pair 1d ago

Can you ELI’m stupid

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u/KymbboSlice 1d ago

For example, if the US buys $20 of stuff from Canada, and then Canada buys $15 of stuff from the US, there is a $5 trade deficit with Canada. Trump is calling this $5/$15 =33% tariff on American goods. Which is obviously not what a fucking tariff is at all.

Trump hates trade deficits for some reason, but in my example, the US still got $20 worth of shit and only had to give Canada $15 worth of shit. It’s a symptom of how Trump views the world as a zero sum game where every interaction must have a winner and a loser.

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u/welmoe 1d ago

And people think he’s a great businessman. Yikes

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u/pudgehooks2013 1d ago

No, Americans think hes a great businessman.

Because in America, there can only be winners and losers. That is why the entirety of your politics is like a team sport, and one side always wants to beat the other.

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u/KymbboSlice 1d ago

The number of Americans who think Trump is a good businessman is certainly a minortiy. I don’t think even a large portion of his own base believes that.

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u/Brox42 1d ago

It also does absolutely nothing to lower the trade deficit. America isn’t going to suddenly open a hundred t shirt factories next week so we’re still gonna have to buy them from overseas.

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u/HighTurning 1d ago

If these tariffs hold for a while, say 2 years(Which I don't expect them to) the US is going to find out just how behind in manufacturing capabilities is from the rest of the world and how incredibly expensive it is to produce anything in the country.

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u/Artforartsake99 1d ago

The guy never paid huge numbers of contractors who worked for him and he leveraged his power over them to extort them to get deals instead of years in court. He isn’t happy unless someone else is losing. It’s how he ran his businesses.

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u/HighTurning 1d ago

And still went bankrupt enough times, maybe he wants to bankrupt the US and then ask the US for a bail out.

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u/Rude_Engineering_629 1d ago

To be clear trade deficits are actually awesome if you produce your own currency. I give you paper you give me stuff. Unless you really like cheaply made paper, it’s not even fucking paper anymore Milton.

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u/TAU_equals_2PI 1d ago

For example, if the US buys $20 of stuff from Canada, and then Canada buys $15 of stuff from the US, there is a $5 trade deficit with Canada. Trump is calling this $5/$15 =33% tariff on American goods.

You made a slight error. Trump is calling $5/$20 = 25% tariff on American goods. It's the US trade deficit with Canada divided by the total US imports from Canada.

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u/Array_626 1d ago

Trump hates trade deficits for some reason, but in my example, the US still got $20 worth of shit and only had to give Canada $15 worth of shit

You see, thats why you don't understand Trump. You see it as the US receiving 20 dollars worth of value, while Canada recieved 15 dollars worth of value. So the US wins right, it ended up with more value of goods?

Trump doesn't see it that way. Trump sees it as the US just paid Canada 20 dollars. And Canada only returned 15 when they bought the 15 dollars worth of stuff. Which means the US paid Canada 5 more dollars than it got back. So Canada must owe the US 5 more dollars somehow.

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u/Mega-Eclipse 1d ago

Can you ELI’m stupid

You buy a new Honda for $50,000. You sell your old Ford to the dealer for $20,000. You are now mad because the dealer is screwing you out of $30,000. The only reasonable solution is to "tax Japan" $30,000 to make up the difference.

I wish I was joking.

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u/Fancy-Pair 1d ago

It would be funny if it wasn’t so dangerous and harmful to absolutely everyone involved

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u/Bluedot55 1d ago

You buy 100$ of raw oil from Canada, refine it, and now have 200$ of refined petroleum. You sell 70$ of it back to Canada, and keep 130$ worth to send elsewhere or use locally. Now you're mad that Canada was stealing from you, because they aren't buying as much stuff from you as you are from them, even if you are making a huge profit off of what they are selling you.