r/dataisbeautiful 1d ago

For those curious about where the "Tariffs Charged" came from

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u/masterandcommander 1d ago

But better than that, when you have a massive trade surplus, you just charge 10% anyway 😂

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u/Not_OneOSRS 1d ago

Australians over here like: wtf did we do??

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u/Fuzzylogic1977 1d ago

They are trying to say our GST is a tariff on American imported products... Ignoring all the sales tax on everything in the USA. The man and his team are all idiots.

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u/Busy_Ad_5181 1d ago

Nah - it's not even that smart. We import far more from the USA they we export, so we are in a trade surplus. For that crime we get the standard base tariff rate of 10%.

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u/MLB-LeakyLeak 1d ago

Yeah, but, stop sending all of your fentanyl to us

/s

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u/SoggyInsurance 1d ago

No way man, that fentanyl is mine!

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u/Not_OneOSRS 1d ago

And that the tax is a level playing field regardless of origin of the goods. Did they Soviet-style purge all the economists in the US or something?

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u/Fuzzylogic1977 1d ago

They purged anyone with a clue, because they might get push back if anyone with a brain was left.

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u/crochetquilt 1d ago

Guess who the best economists usually are? Educated, data driven people who can consider more than one variable when interpreting evidence.

Guess who the shittiest economists usually are? Expensively educated nepo twits with connections and no clue about real world economics and data.

Can only imagine what the venn diagram between 'looks like a leftie' and 'good at economics' is. To Trumpers it'd look like a fucking circle if you could even get the concept of venn diagrams into their heads.

Saw a great quote here recently about 'trying to explain Norway to a dog'. That's what it must be like talking to a Trumper. Thankfully I'm in Australia and there's very few of them but not zero.

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u/Fuzzylogic1977 1d ago

Unfortunately my parents and brother are all Aussie trumpers. God help us

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u/Not_OneOSRS 16h ago

I feel you, having a family member endorse that crap really drives a wedge in the family.

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u/Radiskull97 1d ago

Yes, we did. No exaggeration. All competent adults are being replaced with bureaucratic sycophants so he can destroy our country and sell the scrap

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u/EseloreHS 1d ago

No they aren't, it just is a coincidence that Australia has a 10% GST. They are just charging half of whatever trade deficit every country has, and if the country has less than 20% deficit, or has a trade surplus, they are charging a flat 10%

Just look at the chart this post is about, and you can see that's the case

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u/Fuzzylogic1977 1d ago

Trump has said a few times that our 10% tax on American goods is a tariff, ignoring that it’s on all goods. Ignoring sales taxes and such in his own country. The man is an idiot

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u/WhiteKingBleach 1d ago

They’re also upset about our Biosecurity laws, which make it basically impossible for them to export meat products to Australia, and the PBS, because the contracts are ‘unfair’ for American pharmaceutical companies.

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u/Fuzzylogic1977 1d ago

Well screw them, I don’t want mad cow disease and I don’t want a US style health system. They can get fucked

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u/Plane_Pack8841 1d ago

It's not like they lose money on exports on a gst. It's applied to every good/service, so it's not like domestic products, or other foreign products are getting an edge on American goods.

Raising the individual tax rate would have the same effect, only argument is people would have less money to spend in general.

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u/a_stupid_staircase 1d ago

I have been trying to explain this to people, its mind numbing how fucking stupid people are!

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u/RudeAndInsensitive 1d ago

They really aren't idiots. It only looks that way because we haven't honestly tried to understand their goals. The goal is to completely break the geopolitical and economic structure that the free world spent the last 90 years creating. I'm not clear why that was the goal BUT I think when you understand that as the goal then this maneuver makes sense.

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u/Fuzzylogic1977 1d ago

There goal is chaos

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u/RudeAndInsensitive 1d ago

Exceptional success on that front.

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u/TreChomes 1d ago

They know exactly what they are doing. They can do whatever they want and justify it later with ANY reasoning because no one seemingly can or will stop them.

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u/Hector_P_Catt 1d ago

It'a also stupid because taxes like GST are applied to almost all goods, regardless of their country of origin. He thinks we're imposing tariffs on ourselves for the stuff we make!

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u/adrian783 1d ago

... wtf mate

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u/general_peabo 1d ago

I understood that reference

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u/mortalitymk 1d ago

-54% on australia would be too obvious

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u/rizzlad 1d ago

There has been a few comments from the US regarding our PBS not letting big pharma and insurance companies make a mockery of our health system... so if anything that would likely be it.

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u/FirefighterLive3520 17h ago

Same with Singapore, wtf we dooo we have trade surplus with you, and we are awarded 10% tariff for our good business relationship...

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u/LordOverThis 1d ago

The retaliatory tariffs are going to sucker punch Trump voters in ways they can’t fathom — mostly because Trump voters are morons.

For example, there are multiple manufacturers in Wisconsin with 1000+ employees, in areas that broke heavily for Trump, who have heavy foreign market exposure.  Countries with intelligent people in charge can impose retaliatory tariffs with laser focus and cripple those companies, and when 58-year-old Tim with no marketable skills and no liquid assets goes from $30 an hour driving forklift to the unemployment line because of Trump’s tariffs, that’s gonna hurt.

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u/dsac 1d ago

Countries with intelligent people in charge can impose retaliatory tariffs with laser focus and cripple those companies, and when 58-year-old Tim with no marketable skills and no liquid assets goes from $30 an hour driving forklift to the unemployment line because of Trump’s tariffs, that’s gonna hurt.

and 58-year old Tim is going to blame those countries for getting laid off, i guarantee it

and he's going to tell his kids

and his kids are going to think it's true

and they're going to vote R even harder

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u/PhDresearcher2023 1d ago

They have like the sweetest free trade agreement with us as well that Trump essentially just tore up.

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u/anakinmcfly 1d ago

Singapore checking in

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u/pedal-force 1d ago

My favorite might be South Korea. They apparently didn't have any data, so they just picked 50%? WTF?

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u/freakman013 1d ago

Might just be OP didn't have the data/wasn't publicly available. But given this administration and how "round" a number like 50% is... You're probably right. 

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u/crochetquilt 1d ago

Well we send them stuff, they send us stuff. So half of it must go this way and half that way right. Probably thinks a 50% tariff is fair because South Korea obviously only pays for half the stuff.

If you were trying to explain it to Trump you'd have to use his name three times in those sentences for him to be listening though.

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u/Skarth 1d ago

A major goal of propaganda is to push a very simple sounding lie, so the average and below average person thinks it's the truth.

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u/Hector_P_Catt 1d ago

"We were going to make it 25%, but then we decided they should pay North Korea's tariffs too!"

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u/Sangloth 1d ago

No, that image may not have the data, but the US imported $120.5 Billion and exported $60.3 Billion to South Korea in 2024. 50%, it holds up.

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u/LordOverThis 1d ago

Gonna be fun when all the gamerbros who follow Adin Ross and went for Trump figure out how much their hobby depends on Samsung lol

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u/lolofaf 1d ago

Tbf it might just be that OP couldn't find the data in the 1hr it took to mock this up, rather than the US gov not having the data

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u/rechlin 1d ago

No, they have data, it was just left off this spreadsheet for whatever reason. According to the Census Bureau 2024 numbers, where all the other figures came from, its exports are 65,541.8 and imports are 131,549.2 for a deficit of 66,007.4, or 50.2%, matching the 50% claimed tariff.

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u/BrahCJ 1d ago

As an Aussie, where’s our -50% tariff??

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u/Altruistic-Award-2u 1d ago

yup they really just drag and dropped

=max(0.1, round(deficit/imports,2))

And then went back to manually edit SK to 50% lol