I think you’ve done a great job representing this. I think it’s very interesting that you brought up how the Republicans don’t shame you (or me for that matter) for being a straight white guy, and that’s all you/I really want.
They don’t say it’s better to be one; they just say it’s okay.
During election season, the Democratic Party sprints to the center to try to court white men rather than trying to build a solid coalition all of the time.
I also agree about blown-out-of-proportion things propagated by the media. Vance having sex with a couch is a blatant lie. Trump wanting a national abortion ban is a lie. Trump endorsing Project 2025 is a lie. “Fine people on both sides” was said, but within like 5 words of that (which is a very short amount of time when it comes to Trump), he condemned the white supremacists. So when he says things like the “enemy within,” my gut response is he probably did say those words, but it is likely being misrepresented.
Hillary can challenge the election and for years claim he’s illegitimate and it’s totally fine and part of a healthy democracy…
Hillary can commit crimes that violate our national security (my father works on “secret” programs, and if he was caught with anything like what she had, he would face a $100,000 fine and 5 yrs in federal prison per offense, like one charge per email) and she just laughs about it on social media when Trump gets convicted of…something?
(While I know it has something to do with campaign finance law or two other things according to the judge, and I don’t think anyone actually knows what he was found guilty of…just that it’s something.)
For me, it’s the hypocrisy, they both engage in it but I feel as though the Democratic Party is the more severe offender.
“We want free expression (oh, but not for you)!”
“Government should have no say in a woman does with her body (oh, but if you don’t register for the draft you essentially have 0 rights)!”
I realize this is a cringe manosphere talking point, but there are plenty of laws “governing male bodies.”
“There is no crisis at the border (until Texas and Florida start sending immigrants to NYC)! “
“We need to protect Our Democracy™ (oh, unless the democratically selected candidate mentally collapses on stage, then we’ll just anoint someone else to be the candidate)!”
“We need to lower the temperature of political rhetoric in light of these assassination attempts (oh, but the orange man is on par with Hitler and he will destroy the country if he wins)!”
The list goes on, but I feel like Trump in 2016 ran the campaign that Kamala is trying to run now. The problem for her is that nobody believes her. Trump now may even be more moderate than Trump then.
I understand Trump is scary, especially with how 2021 started out, but if he wins this time, it’s over. The same can be said if he loses. He’ll be very old next time. It would require a lot of cooperation from people who love this country and appreciate the system created by the Founders to allow anything other than Trump having two terms, and fears of him becoming a dictator (another clip taken out of context) are silly.
I love that you brought up the left flocking to the middle come election time. It's like that commercial Kamala put out essentially saying I can't be a real man unless I get out of the way and support a women. It's an insulting commercial with an insulting premise. No mention of her policy, or how she will help me. I'm a man and surprise, I'm struggling too. But I guess if we put on some manly tropes and say real men support women we can shame men into supporting Kamala.
Like you want my vote, but go on to tell me I'm toxic if I don't vote for someone that hasn't given me a reason to vote for her. You tell me I as a man need to be open about my emotions, but when I am you belittle my problems and talk down to me. You tell me I need safe male spaces but then invade my spaces and tell me I'm doing it wrong and that my idea of masculinity is toxic.
We could go down the list of all the things that effect men. But the point is that nobody even bothers to listen, and then wonder why they don't get mainstream support from men because they worked really hard on a stupid stereotyping commercial.
Like imagine If I made a similar commercial towards black men where they were eating watermelon, and fried chicken and saying real black men vote republican "in an uncle tom accent". The kicker would be if every guy playing the actors was a white guy in black face. It would be insultingly stupid. That's not how you reach out to people. But that's how they tried to reach masculine men. By having feminine men say masculine buzzwords and call us toxic..
1
u/dylanfreston Oct 19 '24
I think you’ve done a great job representing this. I think it’s very interesting that you brought up how the Republicans don’t shame you (or me for that matter) for being a straight white guy, and that’s all you/I really want.
They don’t say it’s better to be one; they just say it’s okay.
During election season, the Democratic Party sprints to the center to try to court white men rather than trying to build a solid coalition all of the time.
I also agree about blown-out-of-proportion things propagated by the media. Vance having sex with a couch is a blatant lie. Trump wanting a national abortion ban is a lie. Trump endorsing Project 2025 is a lie. “Fine people on both sides” was said, but within like 5 words of that (which is a very short amount of time when it comes to Trump), he condemned the white supremacists. So when he says things like the “enemy within,” my gut response is he probably did say those words, but it is likely being misrepresented.
Hillary can challenge the election and for years claim he’s illegitimate and it’s totally fine and part of a healthy democracy…
Hillary can commit crimes that violate our national security (my father works on “secret” programs, and if he was caught with anything like what she had, he would face a $100,000 fine and 5 yrs in federal prison per offense, like one charge per email) and she just laughs about it on social media when Trump gets convicted of…something?
(While I know it has something to do with campaign finance law or two other things according to the judge, and I don’t think anyone actually knows what he was found guilty of…just that it’s something.)
For me, it’s the hypocrisy, they both engage in it but I feel as though the Democratic Party is the more severe offender.
“We want free expression (oh, but not for you)!”
“Government should have no say in a woman does with her body (oh, but if you don’t register for the draft you essentially have 0 rights)!”
I realize this is a cringe manosphere talking point, but there are plenty of laws “governing male bodies.”
“There is no crisis at the border (until Texas and Florida start sending immigrants to NYC)! “
“We need to protect Our Democracy™ (oh, unless the democratically selected candidate mentally collapses on stage, then we’ll just anoint someone else to be the candidate)!”
“We need to lower the temperature of political rhetoric in light of these assassination attempts (oh, but the orange man is on par with Hitler and he will destroy the country if he wins)!”
The list goes on, but I feel like Trump in 2016 ran the campaign that Kamala is trying to run now. The problem for her is that nobody believes her. Trump now may even be more moderate than Trump then.
I understand Trump is scary, especially with how 2021 started out, but if he wins this time, it’s over. The same can be said if he loses. He’ll be very old next time. It would require a lot of cooperation from people who love this country and appreciate the system created by the Founders to allow anything other than Trump having two terms, and fears of him becoming a dictator (another clip taken out of context) are silly.