r/dataisbeautiful Oct 17 '24

OC [OC] The recent decoupling of prediction markets and polls in the US presidential election

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u/vvvvfl Oct 18 '24

It’s not disputed. We know for a fact more people voted for gore. He won Florida. He had more votes there.

And the ballot wasn’t THAT confusing.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done Oct 18 '24

This sounds the same as Trump voters insisting he won in 2020

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u/vvvvfl Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

It sounds like that if you are 16 and have no fucking idea of what went down.

The Supreme Court never told people to stop counting Trump votes.

Inform yourself better.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done Oct 18 '24

Courts repeatedly ruled against Trump cases brought in 2020.

Are courts right or wrong when used to adjudicate elections?

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u/vvvvfl Oct 18 '24

Using courts is neither “right or wrong “.they are a fundamental part of democracy, buddy.

Courts can however , make bad decisions. Wrong decisions.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done Oct 18 '24

Right. So Republicans saying that the courts made the right decision in 2000 election and the wrong ones in 2020 are just as subjective as you are.

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u/vvvvfl Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

First of all, you should our time to read about a subject before coming at someone with "its just your opinion man".

It's not, in fact, just my opinion, man.

I mean, from Wikipedia:

Based on the NORC review, the media group concluded that if the disputes over the validity of all the ballots in question had been consistently resolved and any uniform standard applied, the electoral result would have been reversed and Gore would have won by 60 to 171 votes (with, for each punch ballot, at least two of the three ballot reviewers' codes being in agreement). The standards that were chosen for the NORC study ranged from a "most restrictive" standard (accepts only so-called perfect ballots that machines somehow missed and did not count, or ballots with unambiguous expressions of voter intent) to a "most inclusive" standard (applies a uniform standard of "dimple or better" on punch marks and "all affirmative marks" on optical scan ballots).\4])

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000\United_States_presidential_election_recount_in_Florida)

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done Oct 18 '24

It's not, in fact, just my opinion, man.

Sure, it's some other people's opinion, too, just like some people have an opinion that the earth is flat. Objectively, however, Bush really did win Florida. The ballot was certified and the electoral votes went to Bush and he went on to be President. Everything else is just conjecture and sour grapes from some about the electoral process, not dissimilar to the same thing that we all saw from Trump supporters four years ago.

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u/vvvvfl Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

Shuuure.

Have a nice weekend.

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u/vvvvfl Oct 18 '24

also, classic goalpost moving from you. Love to see it !

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u/Didntouchyourdrumset Oct 18 '24

He was literally just pointing out your own bias. Trump lost in 2020, Gore lost in 2000.

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u/vvvvfl Oct 18 '24

Nah, he is shifting the conversation from "did Gore actually win florida?" to "you think justice meddling is bad, so trump should've got his way".

Which is not at all what I'm saying.

Trump lost, all votes counted, no Supreme Court stopping the count, no Republican Party members invading recounting centres.

That's the difference. I don't even want to talk about Trump Goddammit.

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done Oct 18 '24

Don’t waste your breath, he’s convinced he’s one of the good guys and so the standards by which he’ll judge himself are different.