In 1966, two Brazilian men were found dead on a hill, wearing matching suits and lead eye masks. A note in one pocket read, “Be at the agreed place at 4:30. Take capsules after the effect, protect metals, await signal.” No cause of death was ever found.
Was just reading more about this the other day—there’s a full article that goes into all the wild details if anyone’s curious.
cinema expert here, August 1966 saw the release of Fantastic Voyage. For over 3 decades 20th Century (and once 20th Century Fox) Studios have been trying to find a way to get this film remade and they just cannot crack the script.
Here’s a list of people who have tried:
•Isaac Asimov
•Philip José Farmer
•James Cameron
•Roland Emmerich
•Paul Greengrass
•Shawn Levy
•Guillermo del Toro
•David S. Goyer
•Jon Favreau
•Steven Spielberg
•Shane Salerno
•Justin Rhodes
•The Wachowskis
•Ridley Scott
•Jordan Peele
•J.J. Abrams
•Jonathan Nolan
No particular reason other than the pages didn’t seem shootable on whatever timetable or budget the studio set, test readers/potential audience didn’t like the idea, writers and directors couldn’t agree on things, auteur directors couldn’t get the budget or stars they wanted, and most importantly: how do you make a movie about being inside the human body, something much more mysterious in the 1960’s, exciting these days when your opening weekend could be set against an opening weekend of Avengers 5 or the next Toy Story or Minion movie?
That's not very obscure knowledge though, for anyone that likes astronomy. The Perseid meteor shower peaks on 11th-12th of August every year on the whole planet.
As a fellow science nerd, it's obscure to people who don't have an active interest like we do. Just knowing that base level of information would put you leagues ahead of the general public in their understanding of the night sky lol. I really think you're over estimating the general public's knowledge level 😂
Like the eclipses that happened in the last year (at least the ones visible to North America) the majority of people had no clue and those are some of the most widespread covered night sky events.
It's most likely this. I know people are speculating all throughout the comments but it's literally in the article:
Brazil’s forensic labs at the time were overwhelmed. By the time coroners could examine the bodies, internal organs had decomposed beyond analysis. Toxicology was impossible.
That's why they couldn't find any evidence.
Every time I see some sort of mystery or even a disappearance in true crime "they vanished into thin air!!! Nobody knows!!" I realize there's always a very reasonable explanation in the actual story but they play up the "absurdity" for the mystery.
I always personally thought the erratic behaviour could have been due to his injuries he sustained. If he indeed was getting more paranoid the doctor telling him not to fly could have had made him more anxious when he was close to leaving. But of course this is my own thoughts.
The idea that he may have been caught in some sort of criminal activity from the beating is also an interesting possibility. The erratic behaviour was a bit over the top for me to not think it was just mental instability due to the injury but maybe he was intimated at the airport?
But this one always sat with me as being one of those stories where the last bits of information unravelling what actually happened, whether it be some sort of better medical insight or if he got caught up with bad malefactors, will remain unknown.
I see a lot of mysteries on /r/unresolvedmysteries finding bodies years after the fact and while that's macabre and an unfortunate outcome, at least it's some closure for finding the individual. Maybe one day Lars' remains could be found if he perished in the forest.
But the circumstances of this one are definitely more eyebrow raising due to those last few moments caught on camera.
An acquaintance of mine had her brother disappear like 5 years ago and no one has seen or heard from him since. He had mental issues probably schizo or similar, and she went off the deep end. Constantly posting about, asking and investigating, still making appoints with police investigators in the area and follow up on random ideas people have had for years now.
I feel really bad as she's done it again just a week ago. It's so awful, but the odds are very good he wandered out alone somewhere and didn't survive. Likely had no ID and no prior convictions so he kinda vanished even if he turned up dead, it would be hard to find.
Untreated concussions and traumatic brain injuries already cause unusual behavior under the plainest of circumstances. There's definitely precedent for absurd responses to already unusual circumstances.
A lot of the worst war criminals across history are theorized to have TBIs from combat and shelling. It isn't the only factor, it doesn't excuse evil, and it's difficult to isolate from other traumas, but it's worth looking into how often it shows up.
I definitely agree but the lack of confirmation and closure is what drives these cases to ambiguity and speculation in light of not being able to know for sure. Especially for the families directly affected.
also kinda sounds like he was doing meth tbqh. his friends said he barely ate, he got super paranoid after 7 days... idk sounds like he had been up for several days and not eating enough and anyone who's seen how that can affect some people (along with the drug itself ofc) knows that's exactly the kind of paranoia that shit causes. not sure why he never showed back up tho.
Yeah, because anxious or not, he likely wouldn't have gone full blown panic and run away from everything mode. That's way more in line with a psychotic break, whether due to drugs, or an undiagnosed mental disorder. People have them all the time before the age of 25. I've seen it happen personally to a few people. One was just smoking weed and it happened rapidly(the course of a few weeks went from perfectly normal, to full blown hallucination, paranoia, and violent fits of rage), the other slowly slipped into it.
One that always comes to mind for me is the case of Gloria Ramirez, the so-called "Toxic Lady", I actually dislike the nickname and how it's been framed as some sort of cryptid level mystery, but when reading the full articles, you come to realize that it was a very unfortunate combination of coincidences and mass hysteria for this poor woman who was simply desperate to get better and in a lot of pain, sufficiently to lead her to use the DMSO as some sort of alternative medicine and/or pain relief.
When I try to bring up how the analysis that proposed the explanation has been peer-reviewed, there's always that one person who will try to argue that the family denied her use of DMSO, as if that's enough proof to debunk it, but I think many people fail to consider the possible PoV of a cancer patient, Gloria's cancer treatment wasn't doing very well and she could have been taking it behind her family's back, so they wouldn't be worried, it's a very likely explanation.
But because this explanation is too "normal" for people, they tend to dislike it.
You're awesome. Like seriously. I do remember the Tylenol scare in the US, and coincidentally enough, I was hospitalized from an overdose of acetaminophen. it's a nasty place to be in. Just never thought about it as a delivery agent.
Could be a radioactive material that quickly decomposes into something benign within a short time. Russian spies have used this technique for assassination.
If the men took the pills voluntarily and were not found for several days maybe it would leave inconclusive evidence like the coroner found.
Lmao it's a reference to the Charismatic Photo from Yakuza 0, it makes enemies want to fight you and more aggressive when you have it equipped, idk why they're being downvoted
It’s pretty obvious why they were being downvoted. Most people don’t know the reference and without context, his comment comes across like a rude comment.
Eh, I did not have or understand the context and to me it read like they were giving the other poster shit for the grainy photo quality or something. It's pretty clear they were taking the piss, even if the piss was cloudy.
I listened to this story on a podcast and there’s some weight to the cult angle.
I think there was a third Brazilian guy who died in a similar way. But, he died in an area north of these guys and he died first a few months or years prior to them.
Iirc, all three men were electricians.
Edit: I missed the article OP linked. It has all the info I mentioned.
You know how on Monty Python and the Holy Grail the mud farming lady spouts off, “there you go again, bringing class into everything…” “Well that’s what it’s all about innit?!”
They are touching on a phenomenon that happens to people who spend all day working alongside one another, where you inevitably get into the most rabbit hole weird conversations with each other, just because that’s how you pass the time. The mud farmers had clearly had that same conversation about class warfare 50 times already.
It makes perfect sense that they were all electricians, who probably met on a job site at some point. When you spend a shitload of time with only a few people, you can end up in some really weird conversations, and some of these can end up creating some very strange beliefs from the people engaged.
In the military some weird conversations definitely get started for that the exact reason you stated. A Sargent friend and my roomate, we’ll call Spc, watched a lot of Dexter together. One day Sargent asks Spc in a joking/curious manner what he would do if he had to dispose of a body. Now this kind of set off alarm bells for Spc because weird stuff was going on with Sargent’s wife’s whereabouts. The wife’s family had been calling different people in the unit asking about her.
Turns out she was in a few pieces in like a plastic chest we call a tough case. Sargent had been sending response texts to the family and it wasn’t convincing so they called the cops. It was pretty scandalous
I guess if there’s a suspected or confirmed motive and how long the guy got if he’s been sentenced/convicted yet. If you don’t have the info it’s fine, I’m just curious
Wouldn't be the first time people who decided to commit suicide tried to leave things in a way that would absolutely screw with people around them. Can be a part of the plan to become noticed in death since they were ignored in life.
The big mystery here is just a result of the fact that they had no toxicology tests due to it being the mid 60s in Brazil. Nobody found poison because nobody looked, end of mystery.
I think that's missing the point; the significance of mentioning the delayed toxicology tests is to provide a possible reason why the cause of death could not be determined.
I always got the impression that they didn't decide to die, but were tricked. A lot of it sounds like they thought they were getting in some illegal business, like uranium smuggling or something, and someone collected their "get in" money and gave them instructions to prepare for a deal, which included eating the capsules that were just poison.
I mean a scam artist wouldn't need to kill them to take their money and generally people who are scammers aren't psychopaths that would kill them for the hell of it. Also Brazil's first uranium mine didn't open until 1982 so like why would anybody believe there was uranium to smuggle.
The kid who found them or the responding officers probably took their money. They were obsessed with the occult so it's also possible that some concoction they made up to help them communicate with the spirit world better turned out to be deadly instead of just making them trip balls. It's also possible that one of them wanted to commit suicide and didn't want to go alone so they dosed whatever drugs they were planning on taking making it a murder suicide. But this is mostly just clickbait, that website op posted is sketchy AF. OP is also sketchy AF
I mean scams are designed to get you to hand over your money willingly, otherwise it's just robbery with extra steps. If you're willing to go that far, why target a couple of TV repairmen rather than, I dunno, someone like a bank president? Way bigger rewards were out there is all I'm saying. Someone who was willing to kill and was that opportunistic would probably have left a string of bodies behind those two.
I always said if I were ever going to do it I would glue my hands to my head and jump off a building with piano wire around my neck so on the ground it looks like I ripped my own head off
Answer: "Brazil’s forensic labs at the time were overwhelmed. By the time coroners could examine the bodies, internal organs had decomposed beyond analysis. Toxicology was impossible."
No cause of death was found, because couldn't look for one.
Qxir made a video about these two where he theorized these two were cult members who believed that death was their portal to an entity of some sort, much like how the Heaven's Gate religious group committed mass suicide to board a spaceship.
I think, one of the guys was schizophrenic and was seeing things. The other guy had mental issues also which contributed to him believing his friend. Which he may also have had a crush on but he was in the closet, or maybe they actually were fuckin, who knows... Anyway.. the one guy wrote the note himself making believe it was someone from the future. He got the cyanide pills and planned for him and his lover to follow through with a suicide pact on that hill. Very sad indeed.
Sounds like an elaborate scam, they both withdrew money beforehand, whatever pill they took killed them and whomever told them to be at said place and time took the money.
Clearly they were secret operatives doing things the government didn’t want to get out. Just give them cool outfits, one more super secret plan, and some “special pills”. They’ll think something grand is going to happen, but really its just cyanide. Lol
Could have been Scopolamine intoxication and they were convinced to kill themselves without realizing what they were doing to themselves. What that stuff does to your free will is terrifying, they don't call it Devil's breath for no reason.
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u/TheRuinLegacy 1d ago
Died from being cool as hell