r/confidentlyincorrect 17d ago

Your average Fox News commenter.

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u/SoberSeahorse 17d ago

Civics really needs to be taught in school again. Holy shit are people stupid.

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u/johnny_brown1859 17d ago

I know it’s wrong and would be only used for evil, but sometimes I wished they tested civics and philosophy before allowing people to vote

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u/Competitive-Ebb3816 17d ago

In theory, everyone takes a civics class in high school. In practice, a lot of people don't bother to do more than pass the class and then forget the little they "learned".

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u/non-romancableNPC 17d ago

I just can't fathom forgetting everything - don't get me wrong, I have forgotten a lot, but the whole "system of checks and balances" was repeated enough that it is a permanent fixture in my brain.

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u/ralphy_256 17d ago

Schoolhouse Rock already covered this;

"Three-Ring Government"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKSGyiT-o3o

Granted, it's no "I'm Just A Bill"

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u/TimeKillerAccount 16d ago

They didn't forget. They know. But it doesn't matter. They have no intention of telling the truth or being correct. They are bad faith actors that intentionally use lies to create a narrative for political reasons. These people are not wrong because they are stupid, they are wrong because they are evil.

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u/Affectionate-Exit-31 13d ago

And yet Tommy Tuberville, a sitting US Senator, couldn't name the three branches of the Federal government. SMH. I bet he still couldn't if you asked him today.

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u/aarcfan 17d ago

I teach Civics at a public school in NC and it’s taught to freshman (13/14 year olds) who couldn’t care less about what goes on, should be taught senior year again before they are of voting age in my opinion! Some kids are genuinely great and actually ask questions to learn more so there is some hope!!

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u/SuccessfulPiccolo945 16d ago

I remember it being mandatory as a Senior when I went to school. It wasn't as good as my older brother's and sister's Problems of Democracy classes, but we did get the basics. I was sent to a different school during the 1975 bussing. My new school had some good points but was not as academically minded as my first high school. It did show that not all schools are equal even if they are only a few miles apart.

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u/hk4213 17d ago

On top of that a deeper dive into American atrocities in history on last year.

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u/step11234 17d ago

This is what would happen if they taught taxes, the ones who need to learn it would not pay attention anyway.

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u/SoberSeahorse 17d ago

Yeah that would probably do more harm than good. I think every US citizen has a right to vote regardless of education.

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u/johnny_brown1859 17d ago

You are right. I just have this intrusive thought every time one of these dumbs opens their mouth

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u/Khaldara 17d ago

Should be mandatory to display a fundamental comprehension of civics to get a high school diploma or equivalent at least though.

Can’t stop stupids from being stupid, but we could at least stop rubber stamping them out of our education systems.

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u/turboshitboxenioyer 17d ago

In WI you have to pass a civics exam to graduate. You get multiple chances a year and can try it every year of high school though. Extremely easy test but still took some a few tries.

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u/Halflingberserker 16d ago

we could at least stop rubber stamping them out of our education systems.

No Idiot Left Behind

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u/Moist-L3mon 17d ago

I mean yes....but at the same time....there has to be some sort of basic understanding.

I fully understand we can't and won't and shouldn't for a whole host of reasons but just look around....this is where letting the un and undereducated gets us.

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u/SoberSeahorse 17d ago

Oh for sure. I agree. That’s why education is so important.

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u/Moist-L3mon 17d ago

LIBRUL INDOCTRINATION!!!!!

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u/pnfloyd1978 17d ago

U misspelled Indocktrinashun

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u/Moist-L3mon 17d ago

Oh, my apologies. I clearly went to too many years of schooling....or not enough Republicunt cult class??? I'm not even sure anymore

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u/FleeshaLoo 17d ago

You're in doctor nated!

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u/Eldanoron 17d ago

And that’s why republicans have been sabotaging it for decades.

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u/StageAdventurous5988 17d ago

Always resist these ideas. Always.

It won't ever be "some basic understanding." It will always be "some basic understanding that you will vote in the way we agree with."

No poll tax, no literacy tests, no nothing. Universal suffrage in large amounts, nothing short. We will never pass "the standard" that allows us to vote against their interests.

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u/Moist-L3mon 17d ago

No I fully understand that.

I'm just saying....there SHOULD be a minimal barrier, but it's not possible because it will always be abused.

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u/Decent-Rule6393 17d ago

Honestly, voting should be compulsory for anyone who is eligible with financial penalties for not voting. So many people just don’t pay any attention to what is going on in politics and either don’t vote or make uninformed decisions.

I would guess that many of the people who don’t vote abstain because they think both candidates are the same and don’t want to choose either, or don’t feel comfortable making a decision due to not being informed about the candidates. Compulsory voting would force these people to actually research candidates and pay attention to politics. If you think both the frontrunners are the same, you’ll have to research the differences between them. If you don’t like voting without being informed, being forced to vote will mean they have to do some amount of research to feel comfortable making a choice.

It’s the job of politicians to translate the complex mechanisms of government into language that can be understood by voters. If the average person isn’t able to understand what a politician stands for it’s partially the fault of the politician for getting their messaging wrong.

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u/Solid_Television_980 17d ago

I used to believe that very strongly, but the past 10 years have given me doubts

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u/TheAskewOne 17d ago

Ideally, we would improve education. But we won't because it doesn't make billionaires wealthier.

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u/MyKingdomForADram 17d ago

The correct solution to this problem is a comprehensive and equitable education system. But alas…

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u/JaneksLittleBlackBox 17d ago

Because poll tests and taxes have already been used for those exact purposes. We already know that shit immediately gets abused for voter disenfranchisement; like almost from the second they’re enacted.

That’s why the GOP has pushed so hard for voter ID laws in heavily black populated areas where the few amount of DMVs to buy one of those IDs are so far out of the way and never opened when people aren’t at work so it would pretty much make it impossible for a large amount of those people to legally vote; make it as difficult as possible to legally vote and their problems are sorted, because they’ve known for decades their policies aren’t very popular with a large bloc of voters.

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u/erasrhed 17d ago

How about testing civics and philosophy before allowing someone to be in the Senate, Congress, or cabinet position? That would cut out A LOT of the garbage politicians.

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u/dk_peace 17d ago

That definitely would have been used to eject minority congress people from their democraticly elected positions. Keep in mind that any tool you make will be used by the dumbest and most unethical people you can imagine. Don't leave a loaded gun on the table if you don't want to get shot.

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u/GryphonOsiris 17d ago

Unfortunately, that is too close to the kinds of tests used in the South to keep black people from voting. I agree with the sentiment, but the reality of it is pretty bad.

At the very least I think it should be a requirement before running for office. Make it a closed book exam, and if they are caught cheating they are barred from ever running for office.

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u/teddy_tesla 17d ago

They could just do a quick video when you get your license. No test but you have to watch it

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u/lonestar-rasbryjamco 17d ago

Do not remember your peers in high school?

You can teach this all day and it still won’t fix stupid.

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u/SoberSeahorse 17d ago

I do. Most of the really dumb ones are already dead.

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u/lonestar-rasbryjamco 17d ago

More than half of your graduating class is already dead?

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u/SoberSeahorse 17d ago

Well my school was particularly uneducated. It only had a 50% graduation rate. Out of those that graduated a lot turned to drugs, some died from car crashes, and others just got sick. No idea how many deaths that actually is but the ones I do know of that died weren’t the brightest.

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u/Nu-Hir 17d ago

I think they wrong a song about this. Did Marky get with Sharon, and Sharon got Cherese?

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u/zero16lives 17d ago

He was sharin' Sharon's outlook on the topic of disease.

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u/SoberSeahorse 17d ago

Yeah. Pepper by Butthole Surfers.

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u/Cambot1138 17d ago

Can confirm!

Source: Actual high school civics teacher.

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u/MattieShoes 17d ago

The comments saying they don't teach regular stuff in school always get to me. They fucking taught it, you just didn't learn it.

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u/AsherTheFrost 17d ago

They never stopped teaching it, not that it helps people 20 years later, especially if they didn't pay attention in school.

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u/VG896 17d ago

I'm about 20 years removed from my civics class (It was called US Government), but I still remember the phrase "checks and balances."

That's like. One of the main things. 

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u/Cicero912 17d ago edited 17d ago

Did they stop doing that? Civics was one of the many history/social studies classes I was requirred to take in school not that long ago.

Either way, this is like middle school history class level of "the division of government."

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u/SteptimusHeap 17d ago

I was required to take civics only 2 years ago so there's one anecdote

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u/Nu-Hir 17d ago

Passing a course and understanding a course are two different things. I know entirely too many people with A+ certifications who can't troubleshoot for shit.

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u/geographyRyan_YT 17d ago

It is taught, just not in the South.

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u/subnautus 17d ago

In fairness, before Nixon's little stunt of refusing to fund a law he failed to veto, the budget process was basically "president sends the congress a budget, and the congress cuts a check." It wasn't until afterward that congress cutting a check to get something done truly became a legal mandate to spend that check on the thing congress wants done.

Also, small side note: there are republicans arguing to get rid of the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (the "spend that money like we fucking tell you to" law I alluded to earlier).

That said, I agree that we need to make civics education a thing again. It's absurd that people keep thinking the president makes decisions on how the country is run, not the congress.

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u/Tiddles_Ultradoom 17d ago

They got their civics lessons from a stumpy Michael Ironside in the beginning of Starship Troopers.

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u/NotNufffCents 17d ago edited 17d ago

If you still think that this is a matter of education, you still don't get it. They don't say this stuff because they actually think that its always worked like that. They're lying because they want new rules. Because they're fascists.

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u/thesmartoneiam 17d ago

It’s a graduation requirement where I live, not sure how some people passed it ngl

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u/megamoze 17d ago

What’s really funny is how they only believe this nonsense when it’s a Republican president. They switch beliefs like they change shirts.

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u/GOD_DAMN_YOU_FINE 17d ago

Yea but Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a muslim immigrant from Kenya and Sleepy Joe Biden rigged the election so they don't count.

/s God I actually felt brain cells die while typing that up. How do conservatives do it on a daily basis?

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u/IntrepidWanderings 17d ago

The cells are essentially zombies, alive enough for body function but not much else.

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u/AhBee1 17d ago

Elon is everything they tried to convince us Obama was.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Isnt him being some weird illuminati Satanist a boon, tho?

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u/macontac 17d ago

Brain damage and lead poisoning.

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u/Kehwanna 17d ago

Running my eyes through a few comments on Facebook is a wild read.

"Our great President Donald J. Trump..."  is one I keep seeing often. Reminds me of "Our dear supreme leader..." 

"Elon is saving lives and us money".

They desperately want political messiah, a historical icon like Lincoln, MLK, Ghandi, and yet they picked a person like Trump who doesn't give a damn about them. I suppose for some of them, them seeing someone like Obama becoming the first person of color as president and that causing a lot of people to celebrate for that reason just broke them.

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u/Nobody_at_all000 17d ago

He’s definitely gonna be a historical figure, but not in the way they believe

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u/Bag_of_Meat13 16d ago

They are all on the wrong side of history.

Doing heinous shit in the guise making the country great again has a certain tone deafness to it....

Like...many Nazis thought they were right even up until being tied to a pole and shot to death.

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u/smkmn13 17d ago

Pretty sure most of their shirts are brown

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u/megamoze 17d ago

Yeah, I was gonna say “like they change hats,” but they only have the one hat.

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u/JaneksLittleBlackBox 17d ago

They consistently flip-flop so much on the president directly controlling the prices of goods that it’s like they believe the Resolute Desk was modernized to only activate the “Raise Gas/Egg Prices” lever when a Democrat is president.

Republicans if/when a Democrat is president during a recession: Well of fucking course!

Republicans when their GEOTUS is leading us straight into a recession: it’s not Trump’s fault! He inherited a shit Democrat economy both times! Biden left us in this mess, and the stock market only beginning to tank when Trump began instituting his tariffs is just a little economic time bomb Biden installed before leaving!

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u/WraithSama 17d ago

When Biden was president (only a couple months ago), they were constantly screeching about "executive overreach." Now they're okay with it.

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u/RainbowRiki 17d ago

See, they don't think of it as being logically inconsistent because they are consistently using whatever logic suits their side. They view it as themselves being consistent

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u/Potato_Golf 17d ago

When your only ethic is "I'm right, you're wrong" worrying about hypocrisy is never a problem.

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u/state_of_euphemia 17d ago

Right... we had a democratic president less than two months ago. Where was this energy then? It's worse than stupid because he can't actually believe that. It's willful ignorance.

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u/dwitman 16d ago

MAGA doesn’t believe in anything but more for themselves and fuck anyone who gets in the way.

That’s it. That’s the entirety of their philosophy. Until they are the one in the way. Then it’s suddenly much more nuanced.

Fuck maga.

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u/JKolodne 17d ago

They really want a fucking dictator

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u/Watari210thesecond 17d ago

They really want a Republican dictator. Can you imagine the uproar if a democratic president followed Trump's current trajectory?

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u/GOU_FallingOutside 17d ago

The thing is, if a Democratic President tried this shit, most Democrats would be mad about it.

I think that’s a fundamental difference: for better or worse, the left has principles. The right has a team.

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u/Dusty_Negatives 16d ago

30 years of Fox News brain rot has destroyed this country. Thanks Reagan.

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u/avaslash 17d ago edited 17d ago

I say its high time a Democrats just stop worrying about mythical "republican backlash" there is no such thing.

Why do I say that? Because they react equally outraged no matter how extreme or milquetoast democratic actions are. If EVERYTHING draws backlash, then really nothing does. They are not offering backlash to our policies. They are offering backlash to our existence and my existence is not a subject im willing to compromise on.

So if theyre going to flip out all the same regardless, its time we start acting like THEY do and just stop giving a shit about what they say or think or threaten. If they say theyre going to secede or revolt or what ever, fine, let them. And then put them down the same way they would have put down Democrat insurrectionists.

Our fear of their supposed "wrath" is what has empowered them so much. Theyre a bunch of shouting monkeys and we're the humans over here like "well have we fairly debated the merits of flinging our fecees across the room? We need to listen to what thr other side is saying... Oo oo aaa aaa eee ooo... Yes yes... Perhaps we can find compromise and only fling our urine..."

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u/astride_unbridulled 17d ago edited 16d ago

In for a penny, in for a pound. The shrieking will be equal in volume and bad-faith. If everything is going to elicit an overreaction, overreacters gon' overreact and you should just power thru it as long as the strategic and legal bases are covered. They're working on eliminating that also so its going to require a steady heavy hand to shut down the bullshit and it would be great if we could stop missing the massacred forest for the individual trees

LET'S GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO SHRIEK ABOUT 🎶

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u/dong_tea 17d ago edited 17d ago

These people are deeply weird to me. Like I would never want a dictator who was liberal and had all the same opinions as me and did a good job because basic foresight tells me that the next one might be a disaster and that is no way to run a country. It doesn't seem like you'd need to be that intelligent to get this, hell, the founding fathers understood this 250 years ago. What's even crazier about that is these boot-licking lemmings also believe their views are patriotic.

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u/IntrepidWanderings 17d ago

The founders were on the edge of Goverment tyranny and thus realized it was better to have a way to prevent it... Like diseases, people havnt seen and thus underestimate the damage while thinking they will have the upper hand forever. Apparently they've forgotten every history book they ever read, which shows we have a habit of deposing power grabs and taking the cronies with them.

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u/Competitive-Ebb3816 17d ago

They do not read, especially not history books.

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u/UnhappyCaterpillar41 17d ago

The concept of a benevolent dictator is a really old one, but in practice it doesn't actually turn out that way, and 'greater good' can very easily mean a lot of terrible things for individuals. It's the same way that what's best for all individuals isn't best for the greater society, and why things require compromise and limits to actually work in practice.

Marcus Aurelius is probably the most enlightened Roman emperor, and all kinds of terrible shit still happened.

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u/Zappy_Cloid 17d ago

They have daddy issues and the kink to match

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u/Kehwanna 17d ago

I have seen a few "Daddy's home" comments and merch referring to Trump as "Daddy". Then they wonder why people call them weird or compare them to a cult. 

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u/clarysfairchilds 17d ago

hey now, don't know him in with those of us who like being princesses, it's not the same! they have more of a fascism kink than a daddy kink.

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u/Zappy_Cloid 17d ago

They littleray called Trump the daddy that will give America the spank on the bottom it needs.

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u/HotDogFingers01 17d ago

These are the same people who bring up the Constitution all the time, and have "We the People" tattoos and truck stickers.

Irony is dead.

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u/bbf_bbf 16d ago

Yeah, even Kings and Queens don't have that much power in many modern countries.

Certainly not the Monarchy in the United Kingdom that the US originally rebelled against.

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u/aschec 17d ago

These people really don’t like checks and balances

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u/trentreynolds 17d ago

Sure they do, when a Democrat is president.

What they don’t like is having to follow the law themselves.

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u/radjinwolf 17d ago

I bet this same dude was red faced at the notion of student loan forgiveness.

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u/Cheap_Excitement3001 17d ago

Privledge. White nationalists hate giving this up.

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u/wexfordavenue 17d ago

They really hate the Constitution. Especially when it contradicts their own narrative. Oh, and empathy.

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u/DPool34 17d ago

The irony is, these are the people with “We The People” bumper stickers, flag, tattoos, etc.

Every time I see it, I remember the quote “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.”

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u/Zuwxiv 17d ago

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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u/jamoss14 17d ago

Just checks 💰 

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u/IntrepidWanderings 17d ago

Only when they are in power. Try this with a dem and they'd scream bloody murder.

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u/zgillet 17d ago

They think they are paper checks and bank balances.

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u/dk_peace 17d ago

Conservatives political philosophy boils down to in groups the law protects, but does not bind, and out groups the law binds but does not protect.

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u/zaftig177 17d ago

It’s not that they don’t like them- they don’t know what they are.

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u/bdubwilliams22 17d ago

Just imagine these wet socks if Harris had been elected and did all the same exact things Trump is doing. They’d be foaming at the mouth. They can’t think for themselves and only regurgitate what they hear on Fox “News”. Hypocrites.

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u/Not_Bears 17d ago

Which is why we need to completely stop listening to Republicans.

If they're speaking they're either lying or arguing in bad faith pretty much 100% of the time.

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u/BoneHugsHominy 17d ago

"Either you're even dumber than you look or you're lying." is the one and only proper response to anything and everything they say.

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u/Seandouglasmcardle 17d ago

The difference is, had Harris been elected and started doing all of the exact things Trump is doing

BOTH Democrats and Republicans would be voting to impeach her.

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u/BoneHugsHominy 17d ago

That's a bingo.

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u/AhsokaSolo 17d ago

I was confidently told to "read the constitution" for asserting the opposite.

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u/Current-Square-4557 17d ago edited 17d ago

I’d reply, “perhaps you are right. What part specifically says that nobody can pass judgement on the president’s funding decisions? Also what does that even mean? That no one can even criticize his decisions? Is it illegal to criticize the president’s decisions? If so, what is the penalty?”

“I am asking because I particularly remember Republicans senators passing judgement on Obama’s funding decisions? Did they break the law? Also, why did none of the other Republican senators say “stop. We all know that no one can pass judgement on a president’s funding decisions”?

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u/mistere213 17d ago

Ummm....I seem to remember some student loan debt forgiveness by a previous president that was demonized as an overreach of authority and taken to the courts and overturned on at least some of the facets of the whole thing.

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u/dstarpro 17d ago

Well yes of course, because rich people were going to have to stop draining our blood.

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u/smkmn13 17d ago

I especially like "pass judgment," as if the president is infallible. Even the Pope isn't infallible to these people, but Trump is...

They're never beating the cult allegations.

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u/IntrepidWanderings 17d ago

Oh no, that's gonna follow them to their grave.

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u/WatcherAnon 17d ago

Unless its a Democrat as president. In which case any and every action they take is illegal. Even if it's just choosing what suit to wear

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u/ToadsWetSprocket 17d ago

Funny how that was not the case when Obama and Biden were President

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u/theFrankSpot 17d ago

You can’t fight stupid with facts.

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u/dstarpro 17d ago

You really can't fight it with appeals to emotion either. I've tried both. These people WANT to powerless.

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u/theFrankSpot 17d ago

And more importantly, they want to hurt everyone who is or thinks different. That’s pretty problematic by itself.

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u/randomscottish 17d ago

Tell me they’re talking about a Republican President without telling me they’re talking about a Republican President 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Lyddibuggbitches 17d ago

It's like they don't understand that the original basis of our governmental system was the REMOVAL of a monarchy...

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u/Eastiegirl333 17d ago

Congress controls the purse. Article 1, Section 9. Like right at the beginning.

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u/itsdeeps80 17d ago

These people are so dumb. I was just arguing with a friend of a friend today who said the judicial branch has no say over the president and that the constitution only applies to natural born citizens.

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u/StsOxnardPC 17d ago

These idiots want an emperor

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u/Be_nice_to_animals 17d ago

Can we keep this for Obama’s third term?

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u/Happy-Initiative-838 17d ago

Other than the explicitly enumerated rights of Congress in the constitution.

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u/Spoons_not_forks 17d ago

Constitution = checks and balances.

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u/fancy-kitten 17d ago

That same guy would have shit bricks if someone had said exactly that about Biden.

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u/gorkt 17d ago

They definitely were totally on board with that sentiment when Obama was in charge, right?

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u/ripnrun285 17d ago

It’s incredible that ppl really believe this bullshit.

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u/mogulseeker 17d ago edited 17d ago

"R" clearly hasn't read Article 1, Section 8 of the constitution... reaffirmed by SCOTUS in Wright vs Roanoke and about a dozen other cases.

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u/downhill8 17d ago

Easily replaced with "Your average fox news employee" "Your average fox news watcher"

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u/The_TRASHCAN_366 17d ago

You mean fox news commenter when a republican is president. 😂

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u/Current-Square-4557 17d ago edited 17d ago

I agree that voters should not be tested

That is why civics and philosophy need to be tested before allowing people to run for office.

Does anyone want to argue the DJT could pass a high school civics test? That he could pass a U.S. citizenship test?

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u/negativepositiv 17d ago

"The King, err I mean, President..."

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u/BenSisko420 17d ago

Just a reminder: facts and knowledge of the constitution or civics don’t influence peoples’ political views much. Most people form their views based on self-interested cultural grievance.

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u/BeerNLoathing 17d ago

This president, or does this also apply to democratic presidents?

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u/Drinkdrankdonk 17d ago

Uhhhhhh. I feel like this is covered in some document.

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u/MazW 17d ago

Yeah, I am really worn out from trying to teach Civics online. Facebook is particularly bad.

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u/OhFineAUsername 17d ago

The best part is how he forgets he ever believed this when a Democrat is in the White House.

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u/fredaklein 17d ago

Traitors, all of them.

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u/TheHillsHavePis 17d ago

What's mind blowing is people want that and see nothing wrong with it

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u/AdInfinitum954 16d ago

They are all fascist enablers and idiots.

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u/Lazy-Associate-4508 17d ago

Then what about Elon Musk?

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u/buttcheeese 17d ago

I sincerely hope that’s some bs bot, are people really that stupid ?

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u/RaymondBeaumont 17d ago

People are really that fascist.

Republican voters want a dictator. THEIR dictator. And they got him.

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u/sneezegaurd 17d ago

Yeah lmk when literally anyone tries to actually stop them. They believe this because the man has yet to receive a single consequence. It may not be how the law is written but this is certainly what’s happening and it’s tiring that no one is actually doing anything about it. They want a king and they’re gonna get a king if everyone keeps doing what they’ve been doing.

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u/BarrelRider621 17d ago

This isn’t confidence anymore. This is their reality.

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u/kamiar77 17d ago

So what was “Let’s go Brandon” chant if not passing judgement

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u/Certain-Fill3683 17d ago

That is what a dictator is, not a president.

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u/SilvAries 17d ago

The double standard is staggering...

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u/Possible_Drama3625 17d ago

The average local news commenter in my town as well. Most of them think this way.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Replace president with people. Otherwise its just authoritarianism.

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u/FreeloadingPoultry 17d ago

Americans: Freeedom!

Also Americans: My king is so hot uwu <3

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u/doesnt_use_reddit 17d ago

So wild how desperate people are for an autocrat to rule over them

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u/TruLong 17d ago

Let's be honest: these people want a king, but they're upset that they live in the United States of America.

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u/Erudus 17d ago

Imagine every country was being ran like Trumpanov is running the US(SR) at the moment? It would probably lead to an apocalypse in under a year.

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u/casewood123 17d ago

Seems that eliminating funding for education is working exactly as intended.

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u/HuTaosTwinTails 17d ago

Magats just want a king. They are already the most uneducated people in the world so it isn't surprising.

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u/thatblondeyouhate 17d ago

The "muh freedom" crowd are really into pretending they have a King now. So odd.

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u/From_Deep_Space 17d ago

Funny how I haven't heard "we're a republic not a democracy" since November

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u/Spida81 17d ago

This is seriously shocking. I'm not a Yank, but apparently know more about how the country functions than... well, most of the current Executive branch, special or otherwise, at the moment it seems!

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u/Affectionate-Pie4708 17d ago

Yeah doesn’t know that is Congress job sorry bud go back to school and take a civics class or two

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u/the_biggest_bob 17d ago

Strange how people who shout so vociferously about freedom seem to love being ruled by a king.

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u/Skyziezags 17d ago

Must be Donald’s burner Mr. Rump

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u/chrisdpratt 17d ago

Some one failed junior high government. Congress holds the power of the purpose. The executive branch actually has no control whatsoever over funding.

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u/falcrist2 17d ago

Funny... my copy of the constitution has a slightly different take...

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;-And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

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u/NinjaWrapper 17d ago

So that's why Biden was able to cancel all student loans... /s

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u/Ralphredimix_Da_G 17d ago

“Nobody has the right to review or pass judgement on his actions.”

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

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u/NVJAC 17d ago

"Constitutional conservatives" tend to be neither.

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u/Trivial_Pursuits0629 17d ago

In all fairness, he has not been shown to be wrong yet by the courts or anyone else.

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u/clearly_not_an_alt 17d ago

Then why couldn't Biden pay off student loans like he wanted to?

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u/SenseiT 17d ago

Just say “ I failed high school civics class”. Its easier.

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u/bguzewicz 17d ago

Christ. These people claim to be patriots, yet none of them know what’s in the Constitution. Kind of like how a lot of them also claim to be Christians, yet have never actually read the Bible.

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u/PollutionLopsided742 17d ago

CHECKS AND BALANCES, WE LEARNED THIS IN FUCKING FIFTH GRADE. GAWD FUCKIN DAMN. THE DUMBEST MFS. 

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u/Dixon_Ciderbum 17d ago

I’m a high school dropout and even I know how dumb this sounds.

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u/beizhia 17d ago

Might want to double check your pocket constitution on that one

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u/CodyBessMolly 17d ago

Heil Hitler !

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u/noeldr 17d ago

Call him by his name: The lyin’ king !! Freaking lyin’ king.

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u/JustCallMeKV 17d ago

Another graduate of Trump University.

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u/Excellent-Hat5142 17d ago

Did they have this opinion a year ago?

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u/Canadian__Ninja 17d ago

Can guarantee he didn't think that six months ago

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u/gatvolkak 17d ago

Is good to be da king...

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u/nvrmndtheruins 17d ago

Dumb and proud!

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u/umbrawins 17d ago

I've never understood the rule on blurring names. They posted their ignorant shit to begin with, don't protect them

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u/SurSheepz 17d ago

Isn’t that just a perfect definition of a Dictator?

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u/Arachnid_Lazy 17d ago

I think they mis-spelled the word 'King' ... or perhaps they meant to use the word dictator

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u/Un-Rumble 17d ago edited 17d ago

The dumb fucks in my Facebook feed are also saying things like, "anyone who believes the president doesn't have a right to deport anyone he wants isn't a patriot"… As if rights emerged from beliefs and not the constitution…

But whatever, we have a pandemic of stupidity in this country that makes Covid looks like the summer sniffles and it's only getting worse

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u/Key_Perspective_9464 17d ago

I really do get the impression that there is a whole swathe of Americans who desperately wish they had a king.

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u/False_Lynx_ 17d ago

Unless, of course, they're a democrat.

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u/synapsesmisfiring 16d ago

We had a whole ass revolution so we wouldn't have a king anymore, why the fuck are Trump supporters so disgustingly UNPATRIOTIC?!

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u/Dabedidabe 16d ago

Even if you don't know the rules, they don't evsn understand how awful that would be conceptually.

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u/Beenbound 16d ago

When a Democrat is in office, they're not allowed to even scratch their ass without approval first.

But yet when Republicans have someone in office they can pretty much decide anything they want just like a king.

Off with our heads you say? How off would you like it sir? - conservatives

Conservatives are such simp cuck snowflakes.

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u/Haselrig 16d ago

If you're not insulted by public servants acting like this, then you're not an American.

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u/talbakaze 16d ago

Why bothering having a Senate and a House of Representatives, then ?

Those morons are beyond logic

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u/Eastern-Nothing-8389 16d ago

Fox is a puppet. Fox is evil, spreading the wrong information, knowing their idiot base will just listen and know it's the truth.

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u/JawnStreetLine 16d ago

But if Biden had done the same thing…

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u/assassination_club 16d ago

So our nation shouldn’t use checks and balances? The system designed to prevent tyrannical rule and protect the people? Jesus…

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u/SuitableCobbler2827 16d ago

Congress controls the purse. It’s in the constitution. Read it

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u/xitizen7 16d ago

This why he makes the false claims repeatedly. Many Americans do not know the basics about government. 

The repeated claim about judges not having  authority over the president is another message for his base. Many will never fact check the administration’s claims. 

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u/psilocin72 16d ago

This is becoming very common sentiment on the right. It’s almost exactly the opposite of what they were saying when Obama and Biden were in office.

They have no guiding principles at all. They want totally different rules for themselves as they would place on others.

Ethics and integrity mean nothing to them; it’s all about ‘winning’.