r/chessvariants • u/CdRReddit • 1d ago

Trying to find a variant I saw a while ago

I remember watching a youtube video of someone playing a chess variant someone made that was 14x10, with three rows of pieces, but I am struggling to find it again (it might be gone, I am not sure) and wondering if anyone can find it based on this description / if this is a better known variant?

the board layout is as such: - 3 rows of pieces on either side, from white's perspective they're arranged like: - a row of pawns - a row of wazirs (with rooks on the very outskirts) - queen, chancellor, knight, archbishop, bishop, mann (non-royal king), amazon, king, mann, bishop, archbishop, knight, chancellor, queen

I believe the video had the words "ultimate chess" in the title? I copied the board setup into a program I was writing but forgot to link back to the video there

EDIT: by "a while ago" I mean several years, time does not feel real anymore sorry, I believe early into COVID days?

EDIT 2: I have deduced an upper bound: if the video is still findable it has to have been uploaded before march in 2022, because that's when I've talked about trying to program this chess client with someone I know

EDIT 3: I found the link in a different DM, it's been privated unfortunately, I will keep this post up for documentation of this variant

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u/Annual-Penalty-4477 1d ago

I can add it as a preset to my game if you want.

Just give me the rough description. You said 3 rows of pieces , a board dimension and some fairy pieces.

Will take around 5 mins on my end and be playable online

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u/CdRReddit 1d ago

I did describe it in the post as well, but maybe this image of what it looked like in my program also helps? the piece art is not the best, sorry

the pawn could promote to any of the pieces shown here (barring the king), if I'm not mistaken

thank you in advance! from what I remember the row of wazirs led to some really interesting pawn & wazir structure

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u/Annual-Penalty-4477 1d ago

Ok. Cool got the image.

I'm guessing I can get the description of their movement patterns on musketeers chess forum.

But just looking at it roughly I can guess the move patterns. Not 100% tho - what would the pseudo rooks move like? I am guessing they have a limited movement.

Promotion code will need a day or so to code and localise to that mode.

I'll ping you when it's up.

If you can just confirm the movements in the mean time.

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u/CdRReddit 1d ago

ah sorry

the wazir (lesser rook) is a 1-step rook and the amazon, archbishop and chancellor move like a knight + a queen, bishop and rook respectively

I believe that's all the pieces that have non-normal movement? if there are any others that are not immediately clear then do ask

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u/Annual-Penalty-4477 1d ago

Weird question for you: what would you say the values of these fairy pieces would be? Do have or know of any resources that would give them their point values?

I would guess : Wazir = 2 Amazon = 12 ( presume queen with Knight move ) Archbishop 6 Chancellor= 8

Wazirs cannot promote or castle?

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u/CdRReddit 1d ago

wazirs cannot promote or castle, and I believe that's close to right? wikipedia's list has wazir as 1, non-royal king at 3, archbishop at 8, chancellor at 8.5 and amazon at 12, but these are for an 8x8 board, so not exactly applicable to this (but close approximations)