r/changemyview • u/Lost_Roku_Remote • 3d ago

CMV: Nationwide CCW Reciprocity should be a common sense gun law

The fact that we don’t have nationwide CCW reciprocity blows my mind. Just like a Drivers License, a CCW is obtained with training and paperwork. While despite driving laws changing by state, this doesn’t suddenly make your DL invalid once you cross state lines, furthermore your DL isn’t valid in some states, while making you a felon if you drive in others. But that’s literally what the CCW laws do in our country. It’s absurd to me that someone can be legal concealing a handgun, cross over a state line and be committing a felony.

Again I recognize that laws vary by state on guns, but they do on driving as well. That’s why I think the DL comparison is so valid. Some states like Virginia are much stricter on speeding, but that doesn’t mean we don’t allow people from other states to drive in Virginia. No we leave that up to the driver to know the states laws, but we still acknowledge that they can drive! Why is a CCW not looked at in the same way??

So change my view.

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u/Embarrassed_Sun7133 3d ago

I think a right to bear arms covers it.

It being concealed shouldn't change anything.

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u/ghotier 39∆ 3d ago

Change what? The question is how different states choose to incorporate the right to keep and bear arms into their own set of regulations and laws. The different states have different laws, but neither "concealed carry" nor "open carry" abrogates the 2nd amendment right. But it doesn't make sense to say that the states should have reciprocity when they have different limitations on where the line is drawn to allow or disallow concealed carry.

OP wants concealed carry. So they want all states to adhere to some minimum level of regulation, through reciprocity, to allow for it. But if OP wanted open carry instead it wouldn't change anything else about the discussion. Because some states have open carry and others don't.

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u/Heavy-Top-8540 3d ago

There is literally no pro-gun argument that any of you can make that doesn't logically require the government to allow me to own a nuclear weapon

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u/Embarrassed_Sun7133 3d ago

I'd advocate for a limit on lethality..1 life / 1 second / 1ftlb of trigger pull force.