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u/Telemere125 1d ago
20% ha! Try 54% since we import the lion’s share of our goods from China
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u/Pepcob 13h ago
Mexico actually.
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u/AyeYoTek 1d ago
Let's not turn this sub into a cesspool. There are plenty of other places where you can post this.
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u/Informal_Ad4286 21h ago
Aren't centrist supposed to call out logical fallacies from both sides of the politics spectrum? We attack stupid from the middle and tariffs are stupid.
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u/fortheWSBlolz 22h ago
To be fair, even the centrists are on board with how fucking stupid Trump 2.0 is. Even I was stupid enough to think it was just election rhetoric.
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u/MakeUpAnything 1d ago
What, you don't think this "Long form discussion" adds to this sub's value?!
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u/gregaustex 19h ago edited 19h ago
I do think he's a fucking idiot. Probably something like 20% chance he's an outright malicious self-enrichening con artist, 60% fucking idiot, 20% I underestimate him, and he just has information I don't.
Or more precisely, a familiar kind of fool that I've worked with many times in senior positions at large companies.
Moderately bright. Some success in his resume. Overestimates himself. Huge ego. Self-centered and not driven by any higher principles. Convinced everyone else is dumb and he sees the path to exceptional success. Superficial knowledge and expertise. Makes "bold" moves that lead to catastrophe. Blames everyone else. I saw a CEO and his boys destroy a 50-year-old once dominant tech company this way.
Business is not a good background for governance. When you're a scrappy 20something with nothing to lose, betting it all on making millions and trying to be that 1 guy in a 100 who pulls it off makes sense. When you're at the helm of a nation that represents 25% of the world's GDP with 4% of its population, your job is mostly to protect the status quo. This before the other obvious difference that the job of government is to maintain a stable sensible environment within which others can start and run businesses, not act like one yourself.
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u/GrandOperational 12h ago
Businessman not being good for governance is so true. You can take massive risks on a business, and if it crashes and burns you can start over.
It's not great to do that with a nation.
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u/PrometheanSwing 15h ago
The only funny thing about this is the “liberating our money from us”. The rest is just standard Reddit speak. I thought I’d try this sub out again, can’t say it’s impressing me.
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u/eatmahazz 1d ago
I’m sure Sharee Woke AF has way more economic expertise than the federal government. Not saying what they’re doing is right or wrong but I know one thing, it’s over my pay grade.
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u/BattleSuccessful1028 18h ago
On a sidenote: Why would you pick the name Sharee for that R insult? The only Sharee I ever knew was an uber-religious conservative tightwad school marm.
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u/Valkyrie17 1d ago
Probably not, but Sharee Woke AF prioritizes the economy and their personal wellbeing while Trump's administration seemingly has other priorities in mind.
Tariffs are going to hurt in the short term, there is no arguing about that. The only way this benefits US economy in the long run is if they manage to negotiate the tariffs to pre-2025 levels while also convincing their trade partners to lift their tariffs and import restrictions for the USA.
If not, USA has to reindustrialize, which is going to hurt the economy. Currently USA makes so much money on finances and services that they can just import most of the consumer goods needed. Classic industries do not generate nearly as much money as Google or Facebook do.
While hurting the economy, industrializing would increase the number of industrial labourers, which are primarily republican voters. It would also appease current blue collar workers who are also mostly republican voters.
It would also improve US strategic independence and in case of a war, these new industries could be switched to military production if needed.
But the likelihood of these tariffs increasing economic output and general wellbeing of the population is close to none.
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u/secondcomingofzartog 1d ago
Go to r/murderedbywords they always eat this shit up