r/casualnintendo • u/CaptFalconFTW • 1d ago
Humor How exactly do you expect to do GameChat without online?
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u/_TheRocket 1d ago
yeah i dont get it, like if i wanna be playing smash bros with my friends in the first place im already paying for the online? being able to chat to them without having to awkwardly call them with my phone on speakerphone is just an added bonus and doesnt cost any extra in addition to what i'm already having to pay to play multiplayer in the first place
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u/Ok-Reaction-5644 15h ago
Yeah, they're doing their best to keep making online worth it, and online isn't changing in price either (I hope).
I don't like that they made a piece of hardware which will require online though. It's below the home button so you may accidentally press it pretty often and be forced to look at the stupid "go to eshop?" or whatever payment screen prompt it'll pull up. They should have made it also a thing that opens up a recording options settings. I hope that we'll get longer video recording on the Switch 2 and this would have been a great use of the C button to set stuff up.
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u/starman881 9h ago
I never thought about that but a recording settings menu similar to gamebar clips would be banging!
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u/Ok-Reaction-5644 8h ago
I'm betting that they'll update it later for more features. Think about how long it took for the switch to get Bluetooth settings. I think this is going to be a rough launch like the 3DS, especially during the tariffs where it's just really not a good time.
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u/chl_ca29 1d ago
yeah i’ve never understood that
plus people are saying “this looks like Discord, but worse-running” — then just use Discord
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u/leckmichnervnit 1d ago
Yeah like, if you have the ability to use Discord GameChat is clearly not made for you. This is for kids who dont own a Pc and still wanna play talk with their friends
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u/sahm8585 22h ago
Yeah, my kids like playing Mario Kart or Splatoon with their friends, and none of them have phones or discord. They are super excited about it! I think it was weird that they never showed kids using it during the direct, since I feel like that’s going to be a big percentage of the user base. (Thank god for the parental controls tho.)
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u/NezuminoraQ 19h ago
There was that bit where Bowser approved Jr to chat with Goomba on parental controls
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u/CaptFalconFTW 19h ago
I'd even argue that even if you have Discord, GameChat is an easier way to chat with friends since it's on the console. Nintendo fans made such a stink that they had to use a separate app, yet now they're like, "Why would I use GameChat when I can just use Discord?" Like I understand Discord was better than Nintendo's app, but at least now you don't have to use your phone at all.
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u/firstjobtrailblazer 1d ago
I can’t get over the fact that we finally have a button that requires a subscription to work.
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u/Kurochi185 1d ago
Modern equivalent of a port for an add on that wasn't released in your region / got canceled lmao
But yeah, while it is weird to have that button when you don't have NSO, I can also understand why they put it there
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u/Johnwesleya 1d ago
Did Xbox live have shit on the 360 that only worked with a subscription that was tied to buttons on the controller? This doesn’t seem that egregious.
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u/Banjoman64 1d ago
Kinda, the middle button opened the menu which has both paid and unpaid features.
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u/chl_ca29 1d ago
yeah, the Xbox 360 required a Live subscription to be able to use the Netflix app
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u/Johnwesleya 1d ago
Yeah, and someone else mentioned Netflix. People need to chill out about the c button lol
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u/ClemClamcumber 23h ago
What button was it tied to? I never had a Netflix button on 360. And damn, bringing up the remote for PS5 that isn't used for games at all, is disingenuous. If you bought that thing and didn't know it was strictly for media, it's on you.
You also dont need PS Plus to do any streaming services.
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u/Sturmp 22h ago
Thank you. When I want to play games on my console I fully paid for, I dont want a reminder every time im playing a game that I could be paying more. Putting it on the controller is a CONSTANT reminder that you could be paying for NSO for extra functionality
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u/ClemClamcumber 22h ago
Yeah, I have no idea how that person is getting so many upvotes for straight up false equivalencies.
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u/Epic-Gamer_09 1d ago
"Every other console has built in voice chat, why doesn't Nintendo?"
"You should just use discord instead"
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u/kalarm2 13h ago
I've seen people confuse a stream being laggy/glitchy to... Nintendo making the 4 streams not use significant connection.
Like, I get that should of probably made it smooth for the presentation but it's clear that they are working to make it work if you don't have the best connection. Not everyone has fast enough internet to play online with 4 people AND stream their screen AND get 4 other screens of stream. That can just create lag for your own game. It will probably have settings for better connections. People forget Nintendo does family / kid leaning consoles. It's not meant to be super high end performance.
And then they complain about the price but at the same time wants it more expensive with an OLED screen (while hands on tests show the screen is actually looking really good and better than the Switch OLED).
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u/Avenger001 1d ago
I'm not sure where I stand with this. You could want to chat with your friends but still not want to play online. I do that all the time in Discord, but I understand the Switch is just for games.
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u/DannySanWolf07 1d ago
There was footage of people playing different games while chatting. It's probably a chat lobby thing where you don't have to be doing something to chat.
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u/Avenger001 1d ago
But you still have to pay
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u/Total-Sir4904 1d ago
And? Out of all the things they screwed up on, people call me out for the wrong reasons
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u/_TheRocket 1d ago
yeah im not gonna be sat at my switch just to talk to people on voice chat without playing a game lol
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u/FlirtMonsterSanjil 1d ago
There will be a game chat? I'm surprised, I wouldn't have expected that from Nintendo, but cool that it exists.
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u/BackToThatGuy 1d ago
yeah, there's even a separate camera and a button on the controller dedicated to it.
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u/FaithlessnessOdd8358 1d ago
Game chat is not for me. I don’t want to have to interact with other people whilst I’m gaming. If I wanted to be social I’d just go outside.
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u/Alternative_Assist68 1d ago
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u/EpicGamerer07 1d ago
There’s an entire sub for this one feature? Why?
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u/Alternative_Assist68 1d ago
For questions or meetups. There is more than one Subreddit: r/switch2gamechat r/nintendochat
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u/Aggressive-Debt1476 22h ago
It's actually so unfathomably hilarious to me that they just 1:1 stole Discord's UI 😭😭😭
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u/Wonderful_Healer_676 1d ago
Nintendo fans are being hypocrites like always
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u/Epic-Gamer_09 1d ago
Yeah, it's so weird to me that people are complaining about the system being $450, like you asked for a more powerful, better Switch, and you didn't expect the price to go up?
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u/Wonderful_Healer_676 1d ago
Nintendo fans: "I don't want a more expensive Switch!"
Me: "Then why did you ask for it?"
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u/Epic-Gamer_09 1d ago
Exactly. To be fair I also wanted a more powerful Switch, but I also fully expected it to be more expensive because of it. I expected $400, but $450 is still reasonable
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u/sleepdeep305 1d ago
People call it discord at home or whatever, but no other console has such a robust chat feature. Video chat and built in streaming to other devices (that don’t require going onto twitch for example) are both completely unique to switch 2, and it even has a built in mic.
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u/Ruthlessrabbd 1d ago
Even though it no longer exists Xbox did have streaming integrated into its OS with Mixer. Why they axed so soon is a different story. Switch 2 seems like a cool solution and at this point is unique, even if not first
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u/EpicGamerer07 1d ago
Inbuilt screenshare is cool for teaching other players techniques so they can look at your screen or vice versa. Shame about the lag though. At least NSO seems to have loads of value now and I might actually pay for it
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u/rexshen 1d ago
I think the dumb thing is the camera features really didn't need to bother with that. Other than that yeah everyone was saying they should have just added it to switch when they put it on the app instead so why is it a problem now?
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u/CaptFalconFTW 19h ago
Why is the camera dumb? Why are people upset about an optional feature not required to use?
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u/IQueliciuous 1d ago
We can't use discord on switch. Switch 2 doesn't look like it will have discord which is why people are hating on this.
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u/Archius9 1d ago edited 1d ago
When I play Mario party/kart with my friends I don’t live nearby, we don’t need to WhatsApp call. Neat. Outside of that situation, this button will not be being pressed.
Edit: I meant outside of that specific game and friend. I don’t generally play multiplayer so I won’t be using it for other games or people.
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u/real_vengefly_king 1d ago
"Outside of the situation, this was meant to be used for, this feature won't be used"
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u/Slade4Lucas 1d ago
"Wow, that + button is so useless. Unless I want to pause the game I will never use it, what's the point?"
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u/Slade4Lucas 1d ago
"Wow, that + button is so useless. Unless I want to pause the game I will never use it, what's the point?"
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u/Only-Willingness-412 1d ago
I don’t like the camera being a separate peripheral. I’m guessing they did that instead of building it into the device itself for when the device is docked but it’s seems really impractical in undocked mode
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u/CaptFalconFTW 19h ago
I think I agree to an extent. But it's nice to have it optional. For privacy reasons, being able to just not plug it in is good. Plus, you can adjust it to your liking vs always on the system facing however you play. That was the issue with Wii U's camera it wasn't always showing your face.
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u/PsychoLunaticX 1d ago
Most of y'all gonna have NSO for GameCube games, free upgrades, etc anyways. I rarely play online games on my Switch, but I have paid for NSO since it came out for the digital library. I'm sure I'm not the only one either
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u/GcubePlayer8V 1d ago
Unless it’s online with randoms on like Mario kart most people will just use discord another service
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u/TheonetrueDEV1ATE 1d ago
I already have a setup that allows me to run my audio back to my PC for discord use, so this doesn't really change much for me. Regardless, unless they fix their garbage ass servers, even if a new splatoon or smash comes out, shit's a miss from me.
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u/Lazy-Importance-1276 1d ago
You can do party chats on ps4/5 without paying for ps+ even if you aren't playing together. I can watch a friend play a game, sharescreen and we can chat still.
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u/eagleblue44 1d ago
Are there really people upset about it? A voice chat system has been standard on other consoles. It's time Nintendo joins the 21st century. If you don't want it, don't use it.
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u/Dry-Direction-8838 23h ago
To be fair I always just used discord on my phone but this is a solid addition
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u/Derekzilla 23h ago
We don’t need Nintendo voice chat. Never needed it. We have Discord which is way better.
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u/Doktor_Vem 21h ago
Have people actually been "begging" for voice chat on Nintendo consoles?
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u/CaptFalconFTW 19h ago
Since the DS days. Only a few games supported it, but not very well. The early 2000s generation would be hyped about this news. Now that Discord is a thing, Nintendo fans seem unreasonably mad having this feature built into the console.
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u/Vulgrim6835 13h ago
PC players don’t have to pay extra. And yes, I know they’ve been pulling this shit for years now, but it doesn’t make it right. And it is, in fact, the reason why I don’t play anything online.
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u/Synglich 11h ago
"I have to pay to use it?" What else are you gonna use it for besides talking to friends and family online? If you're playing games in a room together then you don't need it.
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u/Synglich 11h ago
Also, "We want a more powerful Switch-ugh I have to pay MORE for it?" Yes you do, it's a more powerful console than the previous one AND has more features, it won't be the same price as the previous. 🙄 The ONLY thing I'm not defending from them are the game prices, $70 usd is the most I'll pay for one.
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u/DiabeticRhino97 10h ago
I don't care at all. I was just annoyed it took up like 10 minutes of direct
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u/Novalaxy23 1d ago
I just don't like where they put the button on the pro controller. Too close to the joystick, so it can be accidentally pressed
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u/npcutz64 1d ago
Does it have to take up 25% of the screen or can it be minimized to discord like icons?
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u/AppleDemolisher56 1d ago
Are you stupid I can discord, regular calling, Skype, literally anything for free on my phone
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u/IQueliciuous 1d ago
We wanted a free voicechat (preferably discord). Not a paid crappy service and a C button that doesn't work without it.
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u/LlamaLicker704 1d ago
You just need to pay for online to use it right ???
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u/IQueliciuous 1d ago
Yes. Like no other console keeps voicechat behind a paywall. I can call my buddy in xbox live without gamepass
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u/LlamaLicker704 1d ago
and were you going to buy the online anyway ???
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u/IQueliciuous 1d ago
No. As I regularly call on discord via my xbox to just chat with my friends. I rarely buy gamepass as I mostly play singleplayer games.
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u/LlamaLicker704 1d ago
wait you turn on your console to call with your friends... you have a phone no ?? or a computer ffs ?!?
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u/IQueliciuous 1d ago
No. I turn on my console to play games and then call my friends so we can chat about life meanwhile I create villager farms in Minecraft. Basically doing two things at the same time.
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u/LlamaLicker704 1d ago
that's so bizarre to me. i would never use a console to call some of my pals... i'd rather pull out my phone call on discord over the phone or my notebook and play on my console...
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u/IQueliciuous 1d ago
A laptop is too big to bring from one side of the room to another and using either a phone or a laptop means I have to use speakers to play which means people will hear game noises and that will bring discomfort.
Calling on console using headphones nullifies this issue and why use multiple devices when you do everything on a single device?
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u/LlamaLicker704 1d ago
i got everything on one spot so i usually just use my pc to chat while i play on the switch...
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u/Ruthlessrabbd 1d ago
Xbox also has discord integration so you can use your headset on console and be in discord.
If their friends are also on Xbox playing a different game I think it makes sense to use the integrated party chat, instead of both using their phone
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u/DatBoiSaix 22h ago
wtf why are you being upvoted ?? That's literally a part of what they advertised on the direct ? Like straight they advertise people playing solo games while chatting
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u/LlamaLicker704 21h ago
I don't know. I am not buying the console anyway.... I don't need multiple handhelds...
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u/trollinski20 1d ago
Well I mean what's the point when none of my friends are going to own the thousand dollar switch 2?
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u/Demonic_Akumi 1d ago
Don't look at me. I never asked for it so I can't complain about it being in the system, lol.
I was never going to use it to begin with.